How the hell did Joe Budden not blow?

[TheDarceKnight]

The fukk?????

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I'm guessing he means that most people think he's the worst in the group dynamic? As a solo artist, I think he's the best in the group. He stood out on the new mixtape the most too. I do think because he excels in the solo format so in a group his style has to be changed a bit because he can't get so personal on every song.

But he can black out like no other.

 

[West Coast Avenger]

talented mc.......but he makes some boring ass music.....

 

[franny]

blackballed by hov

 

[notorious8562]

If he had blown up, we probably wouldn't have got the Mood Muzik series.

I was surprised by how much better his debut album was than I anticipated. I was expecting an album full of 'Pump It Up' garbage that I'd delete after listening, but then I get hit with "10 mins" and "Calm Down."

 

[re'up]

The first album just underperfomed, for the time, and then label politics and bullshyt, power shifts in Def Jam, plus they didn't have faith in him to deliver a hit, dude is lucky he did the MM series, or he'd be Black Rob status right now. The first album isn't terrible, by any means, it's solid, glossy, commercial debut, with some very good, classic songs mixed in. You could tell dude had more depth then his peers on the mixtape scene, with this dropped.

 

[muzikfrk75]

blackballed by hov

It took 18 posts for someone to finally say this?


Also

Personality-wise, it just always seemed like he had this sense of entitlement and it probably burned a lot of bridges/turned people off......

 

[Mac Casper]

Could be any amount of reasons, maybe he got satisfied with position and lost the determination to advance upon it

 

[Smokebreak]

hes not an industry dikk rider which works against him.

people say hov black balled him defjam was just a mistake for a lot of artists not in state prop.

it's actually crazy that he went from relevant to irrelevant/underground to a mix a both all in 10 years

 

[John Hull]

blackballed by hov

Can't see how nikkaz forgot

Just ask

 

[lyrical professor]

Basically he turned in his 2nd album, and at that time....that's when def jam went left and stopped supporting most of the roster not just joey. He basically sat on the label until he got the boot, put out mood muzik 2 and then everybody woke up to how dope joey actually is as an artist. Honestly if wasn't for the mood muzik series, and doing more concerts then a person can count, joe would be another "rapper missing" in the xxl lmao. You could more so blame major label politics then anything else, it's not like the n!gga can't make a dope song. Those SLV joints with Emanny he's been putting out have crazy radio potential. Like someone said he's now in that underground/semi-mainstream spot. Realistically "blowing up" is highly overrated though if you know how the record business works...Just give me dope music, i don't care what the rapper status is in the game, i'm not getting any of the profit they receive anyway.

 

[151_Pr00f]

A number of reasons some already mentioned but I think timing played a huge factor. Around that period the crunk era started to dominate and the south was gaining steam.

 

[Mr. Negative]

I could have said "blackballed by Hov"... but really... who takes statements like that seriously?



minus the Illuminati bullshyt, I mean...

 

[Plexxx]

talented mc.......but he makes some boring ass music.....

 

[Mr. Negative]

I also don't understand why posters are criticizing Joey's "work ethic".... it seemed like before the slaughterhouse stuff, dude practically lived in the studio.

15 CDs/300+ worth of material doesn't seem like a wack work ethic to me....

 

[ZEB WALTON]

cause he is the epitome of lame