How the Arab Conquests/Invasions transformed North Africa

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Interesting video. :jbhmm:

I always have trouble believing North African as being “white” or Arab as its thought of today

Especially when North Africans will joke with African Americans and say “im
More African than you” :youngsabo:



Like Black people for thousands of years just stopped at an imaginary line on the continent but still travel all over the southern part freely and even all over the world :heh:

Plus the story of Ghana laying the smack down on the Muslims. :ehh:


Never heard of this story before but it explains the state of Ghana today as mainly Christian I guess.
 

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Interesting video. :jbhmm:

I always have trouble believing North African as being “white” or Arab as its thought of today

Especially when North Africans will joke with African Americans and say “im
More African than you” :youngsabo:



Like Black people for thousands of years just stopped at an imaginary line on the continent but still travel all over the southern part freely and even all over the world :heh:

Plus the story of Ghana laying the smack down on the Muslims. :ehh:


Never heard of this story before but it explains the state of Ghana today as mainly Christian I guess.


White people like playing games. They always over-exaggerate any non-black influence and diminish any black influence.

North Africans originally were Black. The Sahara Desert was an oasis 7,000 years ago. Black Africans would have been traveling up and down and across from coast to coast. So why wouldn't these people have been black? There were no "barriers" then. Everyone would have been a similar skin complexion. Then the Sahara dried at some time between 7,000 BC to 5,000 BC and some Africans went to the Nile River, some to the Niger River, some to the Mediterranean Coast. Then you account for some White European back migration. Then for Middle Easterners when they came with the spread of Islam. Then you account for the fourth group which was the mixed offspring of all these people. And you get the range of phenotypes you have there now. I remember looking on Wikipedia at North African mummies and a whole heap of them mofos had E Haplogroups. I brought this up on Reddit and some racist cacs tried to pretend like it wasn't indicative of race. Like they could've still been Middle Eastern :heh: The wide, wide, wide majority of the time if you have an E Haplogroup, it means you originate directly from East Africa.
 

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Where do Arabs come from?

That’s a really complicated question. Like asking where do “white people” come from.

I ask myself what are “Arabs” all the time. :manny:

There was a time before “Arabic” so at some point in history “Arabs” became a thing….. but what do I know. I’m just a college dropout :yeshrug:
 

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Did arabs just suddenly drop down on planet earth and start enslaving black people?

Don't give them too much credit for fukk sake man? LOL

BTW the muslim empire did not flourish like that when the Prophet was alive or when his death was fresh or even a hundred years..it was a brigade of movements from non arabs with a portian of arabs that took the stages of showing Islam and bringing a new culture to the regions.
 
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Interesting video. :jbhmm:

I always have trouble believing North African as being “white” or Arab as its thought of today

Especially when North Africans will joke with African Americans and say “im
More African than you” :youngsabo:



Like Black people for thousands of years just stopped at an imaginary line on the continent but still travel all over the southern part freely and even all over the world :heh:

Plus the story of Ghana laying the smack down on the Muslims. :ehh:


Never heard of this story before but it explains the state of Ghana today as mainly Christian I guess.


1 - From some of the studies I have seen before, ancient Egypt(ANCIENT, from the beginning, not Ptolemaic-Greek or Roman Egyptians that Cacs try to pass as eras close to the beginning of Egypt) was originally a place consisting of Nilo-Saharan, Nilotic and Cushytic(These Cushytic were already a mix of ancient Nilotic with ancient Levantine) speaking people. These people eventually mixed for many generations, creating a new group of their own. These were the founders of ancient Egypt that were later invaded by a range of different groups. The change didn't start with Arab invasions. It started way back.

1.1 But all this situation is funny because Cacs used to say that the true ancient Egyptians were Copts and spoke a coptic language. However, Copts are a recent group, developed after the introduction of Christianity into Egypt. I mean, Nabta Playa dates to 7500 BC, showing affinity to Nilo-Saharan speakers but heavily admixed Copts(ethnoreligious group born out of 1st Century AD Christianity) are the ancient Egyptians?

:stopitslime::mjlol:


2 - Also, some more context is needed:

2.1 Berbers were not really related to ancient Egyptians. And today, they are mostly mulattoes ruled by Arabs and Turkish descendants. Some Jewish descent rulers too, because some Jews that were expelled from Iberia ended up in the Maghreb. Anyways, true berbers are not close to white. They are mostly brown like Tuaregs PS: Funny, even Gaddafi(described by many as a true Berber) was an Arab descendant. He was a Qadhadhfa, an Ashraf Arab tribe, related to Bedouin nomads from Arabia.

2.2 Originally, Berbers came to exist from a mix of ancient native black Saharans(that lived in the region during the Green Sahara period), ancient Levantines and also ancient Southern Europeans. Plus, they have constantly received Middle Eastern DNA through multiple conquests. From Phoenicians to Ottoman Turks and even modern Arab rule in places like Morocco. PS:To this day, in places like Morocco they are still ruled by an Arab dynasty, called the Alawi/Alaouite dynasty, that immigrated from Saudi Arabia to Morocco and has been ruling them since the 17th century.
So, the idea of grouping "Ancient North Africa" into one and also projecting it to modern populations in North Africa is just Cac nonsense.


I seriously don't care much about North Africa or even Egypt, since the northern part of Africa is one of the most conquered regions in history but yeah, I don't think the video is entirely correct.



PS: The picture above gives you a good perspective of the multiple changes that happened in the North, specifically Egypt. And it is missing some. For instance, it doesn't even include the Nubian rule or the fact that most rulers from 1952 - Present haven't been really Egyptians. They have been mostly Arab descendants, with some Albanian elites still controlling important sectors. I think the only somewhat native ruler since 1952 was Anwar el-Sadat. Modern Egypt is an Albanian project.

Also, I seriously wonder how Cacs will spin most of their traditional lies about history. Archaeology is starting to receive a lot of funding and attention. And right now, they are too deep into their lies. Moreover, I think that archaeology will end up proving that African oral history has been more reliable and consistent than "I'm white and I say so" writings.
 
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Did arabs just suddenly drop down on planet earth and start enslaving black people?

Don't give them too much credit for fukk sake man? LOL

BTW the muslim empire did not flourish like that when the Prophet was alive or when his death was fresh or even a hundred years..it was a brigade of movements from non arabs with a portian of arabs that took the stages of showing Islam and bringing a new culture to the regions.
“Arab” is not a people, it’s an ideology, movement and way of life that was adopted by the warriors and leaders who ruled those empires.

And yea it didn’t even begin with “Muhammad” but he allegedly wrote the handbook on anti blackness which influenced what would become the “Arab world”.

Christianity didn’t flourish when Jesus was alive either. He only had 12 followers. :manny:
 

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What about the European conquest of North Africa which preceded the Arabs by couple hundred of years. North Africa has been invaded by many groups of people. Even Asians at one point (Hyksos) during Ancient Egypt. They are a mixture of all of those people.
 
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“Arab” is not a people, it’s an ideology, movement and way of life that was adopted by the warriors and leaders who ruled those empires.

And yea it didn’t even begin with “Muhammad” but he allegedly wrote the handbook on anti blackness which influenced what would become the “Arab world”.

Christianity didn’t flourish when Jesus was alive either. He only had 12 followers. :manny:
Muhammad wrote the book of anti blackness? please share with me and do not send me hadith quotes.
 

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North Africa was NOT BLACK before the Arab invasion, it was and it's still mostly light skin/fair skin Berbers by then

this is the miss information i'm talkong aboutfrom these viral flicks that people just run with it and don't do their research :snoop:

Even in the video he said the Arab invasion started in 639 AD

berbers(who also have ancient east african genes,doesn't mean they are black), had already established themselves in Amazigh area for a few thousand years at 639 AD
 
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