How SICK are we as a society that we actually celebrate COLUMBUS DAY?!

[newarkhiphop]

but was it really a constructed genocide like hitler

i'm not saying your not wrong in saying Columbus was responsible for the direct or indirect deaths of many people

i'm just saying your diminishing how truly evil Hitler was

breh Columbus REALLY committed that genocide, the whole island of Hispaniola (now dominican rep/haiti) was wiped of its native population by colombus

there both equally evil in my eyes

 

[Da_Eggman]

If it wasn't Columbus it would have been somebody else. It was inevitable, that's just the biology of the situation. Read "Guns, Germs, and Steel", it explains the timebomb of the mixing of the germs after 10000 years of separation. It was bad news for the Indians but it was going to happen sooner or later.


Hitler ordered millions of deaths and set up and operated a hellish killing machine of hate and torture. Columbus didn't even begin to think of doing that. The millions of people who died as a result of the European colonization of the Americas died for all sorts of different reasons ranging from murder to ignorance of how to stop disease to big geopolitical forces and events going on in W. Europe, not because of one man's unspeakable evilness.

 

[Shogun]

If it wasn't Columbus it would have been somebody else. It was inevitable, that's just the biology of the situation. Read "Guns, Germs, and Steel", it explains the timebomb of the mixing of the germs after 10000 years of separation. It was bad news for the Indians but it was going to happen sooner or later.


Hitler ordered millions of deaths and set up and operated a hellish killing machine of hate and torture. Columbus didn't even begin to think of doing that. The millions of people who died as a result of the European colonization of the Americas died for all sorts of different reasons ranging from murder to ignorance of how to stop disease to big geopolitical forces and events going on in W. Europe, not because of one man's unspeakable evilness.

they aint gonna respond to this, but props...

 

[newarkhiphop]

If it wasn't Columbus it would have been somebody else. It was inevitable, that's just the biology of the situation. Read "Guns, Germs, and Steel", it explains the timebomb of the mixing of the germs after 10000 years of separation. It was bad news for the Indians but it was going to happen sooner or later.


Hitler ordered millions of deaths and set up and operated a hellish killing machine of hate and torture. Columbus didn't even begin to think of doing that. The millions of people who died as a result of the European colonization of the Americas died for all sorts of different reasons ranging from murder to ignorance of how to stop disease to big geopolitical forces and events going on in W. Europe, not because of one man's unspeakable evilness.

ok so same thing for jews right? only a matter of time before someone tried to kill them all off?

I read GGS and you know that doesn't apply in this case , that applied for dam near pre farming era etc

This is all a matter of record: 15th/16th century is not pre-history, and the Spaniards recorded all of this. Bartholome de las Casas was a monk who wrote it in detail.


In just two years under Columbus Governorship through murder, mutilation, being worked to death or suicide more than half the 250,000 Indians in Haiiti were dead
- Howard Zinn

"Haiti under the Spanish is one of the primary instances of genocide in Human history"

"Columbus not only sent the first slaves acroiss the Atlantic, he sent more slaves than any other individual"

- James Loewen



Bartlome de Las Casas says:
There were 60,000 people living on this island [in 1508], including both Spaniards & Indians. So that between 1494 and 1508 more than three million people died from war, slavery and the mines.
Who in future generations will believe this?
I myself as an eyewitness can scarce believe it

Even if his figures were exaggerations (were there 3 million as he says, or only a million as some historians calculate, or as many as 8 million as some others now believe) it is undeniably true that Columbus over those 6 years was responsible for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people.

It is a quite remarkable fact that this is so little known.

History: How many people died because of Christopher Columbus (either directly by his hand or by the conquests led by him)? - Quora


so conservatively he casued the death of anywhere between 250k-3million people


I suggest you read People History of the United States by Howard Zin

 

[Da_Eggman]

breh Columbus REALLY committed that genocide, the whole island of Hispaniola (now dominican rep/haiti) was wiped of its native population by colombus

there both equally evil in my eyes

well morso by his men but yes he was in charge and did nothing to stop it

 

[Da_Eggman]

ok so same thing for jews right? only a matter of time before someone tried to kill them all off?

I read GGS and you know that doesn't apply in this case , that applied for dam near pre farming era etc



History: How many people died because of Christopher Columbus (either directly by his hand or by the conquests led by him)? - Quora


so conservatively he casued the death of anywhere between 250k-3million people


I suggest you read People History of the United States by Howard Zin

well conservatively because of Hitler roughly 17 million people were killed in ways that are still so inhuman many still refuse to believe it

so Hitler would still be worse


was Columbus an evil man? well not by 15th-century European standards. He was persistent in his endeavors and fully loyal to the Spanish crown --three attributes that were needed at the start of the New World era-- but by today's standards he was amazingly indifferent, callous and cruel toward the natives of the New World

 

[Danie84]

I remember when I learned the truth about the Native Americans and the Holiday Hell Day massacre in third grade, I for days.

These beautiful people took these in; fed and nurtured them, only to be killed and have their land desecrated.

 

[Mowgli]

yall are missing the point.

the question is: what does this say about us AS A SOCIETY?

you are a part of this society right? so yes this effects you.






so again i ask, what does it say about this society that we gave a person like christopher columbus his own personal holiday?

There is no us. What does it say about white people is what you should be asking yourself. They're the ones who proposed the holiday and got it instated. They are proud of it, to this day. You dont think native americans have lobbied to have it removed? Not happening. Why? They're proud of what they did. At the heart of most civilizations is a killer and someone who doesnt like him. The winners can do what they want to exalt or bury that man. Cacs chose to exalt.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Man, those CAC's stripped us of the glory of Native American dime pieces with big ol bootys and shyt that Pocahontas p*ssy how many native americans are even left? Gotta be like 200

 

[Tres Leches]

what about thanksgiving ?

 

[Nefflum nigga]

I call ya holiday hell day...

 

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[Dirty_Jerz]

 

[thekingsmen]

Ethnic Cleansing is just that....Columbus and his gang wiped indigenous people off the map.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

what about thanksgiving ?

It was created to commemorate the destruction of the last Moorish stronghold in Europe. Caucasians are very creative people. They even created a whole ethnic group to keep the rest of us oppressed and controlled and we have yet to call them on it.​