How Poverty Changes the Brain

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goes back to my inherited behavior thread people were hating on
if trauma is passed down through genes, if poverty puts people in debilitating fear and if rich blacks have no incentive to make business decisions that benefit the diaspora
then how do we get people to act for our collective-interest?
Slightly OT:

The findings in the op are strong arguments for epigenetics and cultural issues (although they're shying away from certain specific cultural aspects).

This is what I meant when I said you were "partially right" in your other thread. I was specifically talking about the epigenetic and cultural results of being terrorized and impoverished for hundreds of years under the rule of white supremacy.

This would be my argument for African American behavior.

The Africans back on the motherland is another story :snoop:

Oh yea... since we getting all scientific and shyt :sas2:

You know we gonna have to eventually have a conversation about r/K selection theory right? :sas1:
 

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based on my own experiences, this may have some merit. when I was a kid, back in like kindergarten/1st grade, I struggled with everything. reading, writing, counting, spelling, concentration, you name it. of course, educators and doctors wanted to attribute it all to adhd (something young boys, especially black boys are diagnosed with at a very disproportionate rate), but now that I look back on it, how could a 5 or 6 year old think about school when you're not even sure when you're gonna get a meal that wasn't prepared at school or where you're sleeping that night? during the school year while I was in 1st grade my mom met my stepfather :rip: and they were married shortly after. my life seriously stabilized overnight. we moved into a place of our own, I had cooked meals everyday, I no longer dreaded going to school and being shyt on for rocking pro wings because my pops was adamant that if he was gonna look fresh his kids were look fresh too. that stability afforded me the ability to concentrate on the only things that should matter to a 6 or 7 year old. not matters that were beyond my means to correct and figure out.
 

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Black kids cant even get help from their parents because they literally have to work all the time to keep the lights on.

Your whole post the truth, but this stood out to me the most. Folks will always act like if your folks made it out of the inner city they cakin. Doing amazingly well.

Like, no you dummy, my mom worked two jobs and my dad worked three for years.

Then add a divorce to the mix, how hell is a kid suppose to ask for help, let alone get it?

Sorry for the projection man, but shyt gets to me sometimes. Dap+Rep.
 

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Your whole post the truth, but this stood out to me the most. Folks will always act like if your folks made it out of the inner city they cakin. Doing amazingly well.

Like, no you dummy, my mom worked two jobs and my dad worked three for years.

Then add a divorce to the mix, how hell is a kid suppose to ask for help, let alone get it?

Sorry for the projection man, but shyt gets to me sometimes. Dap+Rep.

Now imagine the feeling a parent feels when their kids becomes a victim to the world. It eats you up inside because you literally sacrifice your body to "pay the bills" doing what you feel will give your kids a opportunity to make it out, but in reality you are also leaving your kid out in the open for the beast known as the world to swallow them whole. This is why FAMILY is important. When parents go ghost to grind for the family its critical that you have cousins/aunts/uncles/ etc who can help out (assuming they arent crazy themselves).

The thing is in America the individualism narrative is pushed so hard where families dont even rock with each other like that unless its a funeral or something.
 

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IQ theorists already suggested that environment plays a huge factor in intelligence...

But IQ globally is trending down...
 

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That is within my expected range of conclusions as well - But surely there must be a 3rd option???

My whole life is the road less traveled....I refused to subscribe to anyone else's conditions and I carved my own path. Regarding children specifically I never cared much for them for various reasons.

My viewpoint I don't expect others to share because I was an only child for the most part (I have a half-sister but it's complicated) and just noticed that my peers with siblings seemed a lot more stressed, less privacy, less mobility and less opportunity because they literally had to fight siblings for food and attention etc.

But no one has the basic curiosity to try and seek alternative paths? It's just like everyone subscribing to either Democrat or Republican but not considering that NEITHER is right for this country???
with the nomination of trump over establishment republicans and bernie sanders' popularity being at an all time high right now, it looks like people have a sense that business as usual is no longer working and they are grasping at various things in an attempt to find something better. that gives me a little hope.
 

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goes back to my inherited behavior thread people were hating on
if trauma is passed down through genes, if poverty puts people in debilitating fear and if rich blacks have no incentive to make business decisions that benefit the diaspora
then how do we get people to act for our collective-interest?
It's impossible. I told my wife, after years of research, organizing before her and just a lot of reading, it's impossible to end the Black decay in this country. While integration wasn't all bad, it was the death nail to already broken people from Jim Crow, slavery, etc.
 

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goes back to my inherited behavior thread people were hating on
if trauma is passed down through genes, if poverty puts people in debilitating fear and if rich blacks have no incentive to make business decisions that benefit the diaspora
then how do we get people to act for our collective-interest?


A great existential crisis that's fast-moving, unlike this slow one?

Yea.. this paired with epigenetics... not good at all.

Obvious by now we're not getting outta this mess without a serious game changer. As you learn greater amounts of information about our situation and history, that's the only conclusion you can come to.

"Elite" blacks won't do shyt, because they have nothing to gain. And quite frankly at this point, they will most likely breed out into other groups. Can't rely on the political, religious, etc classes.. they have failed completely. And ya gotta figure a sizable percentage of folk are just plain tired.




When I said it all those times.. it wasn't a joke. But it really will take :WWar3:
 

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Yea.. this paired with epigenetics... not good at all.

Obvious by now we're not getting outta this mess without a serious game changer. As you learn greater amounts of information about our situation and history, that's the only conclusion you can come to.

"Elite" blacks won't do shyt, because they have nothing to gain. And quite frankly at this point, they will most likely breed out into other groups. Can't rely on the political, religious, etc classes.. they have failed completely. And ya gotta figure a sizable percentage of folk are just plain tired.




When I said it all those times.. it wasn't a joke. But it really will take :WWar3:

i wondered where you went
why the name change?
 

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"Elite" blacks won't do shyt, because they have nothing to gain. And quite frankly at this point, they will most likely breed out into other groups. Can't rely on the political, religious, etc classes.. they have failed completely. And ya gotta figure a sizable percentage of folk are just plain tired.

Why should we even consider elite Blacks? They always never did shyt unless it benefited them.

The solution is quite simple...we revolt and have a revolution and elite Blacks gotta get down or lay down.

The only reason why Elite Blacks have any power is due to the celebrity and cult worship of Elite Blacks by the everyday Black person...

If we didn't give a fukk about them...White people would dispose of them...

nikkas need to stop thinking like elite Blacks are Black...they effectively are not. They are in a totally different class and their existence is an abnormality. Being Black needs to be viewed as a condition and as status.

If a nikka got a networth of 500 million and is adored everywhere...he ain't Black...


When Lil Wayne was like..."What the fukk does Black Lives Matters got to do with me..." that should've been a sign...

When Oprah debuted "The Secret"...when she said all you gotta do is think positive and you can be like her...that's should've been a sign...

When ASAP Rocky said, "nikka I am in London and SoHo...I don't be keeping up with what is going on in the hood..." that should've been a sign...

When Kanye West started ranting because he couldn't start a fukking clothing line when that nikka is worth 50 million and acted like him having a clothing line is some groundbreaking civil rights shyt...that should've been a sign...


After a certain point of wealth, nationality, religion, and culture do not matter. What matters is class. Elite blacks got more in common with elite whites than they do with regular black people. And the more wealth people have, the more callous they are. That's a scientific fact.
How Wealth Reduces Compassion

This idea that there can be a class colloboration between the wealthy and elite Blacks and the rest of is a fundamental political problem...these nikkas are not Black like we are...

These nikkas been rich longer than some of us have been alive...these nikkas have seen things and experienced things that we never ever will....these nikkas don't even live where Black people.

These nikkas ain't drinking Flint water. These nikkas get police escorts. These nikkas are basically politically dead and economically lifeless. They are glorified employees.
 
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Make the thread....kind of interested to where you go with that tbh.

I haven't totally gathered my thoughts on it so a thread on it, coming from me at the moment, would be a little premature. Plus i'm gonna need to post some White Supremacists videos and last time i did that, coli nikkas got butthurt and my thread was deleted :francis:

Gonna get refreshed on the subject now so i can present a stronger case for the future thread
 
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