Well...Lebron won 4 in 9 years and got to the finals 4 other times within those 9 years....So Lebron's dynasty spans multiple teams.
How is LeBron James the GOAT and he's never been apart of a dynasty ?????EDIT: Thread very Quiet
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Well...Lebron won 4 in 9 years and got to the finals 4 other times within those 9 years....So Lebron's dynasty spans multiple teams.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
The whole thing is only a discussion because "Dynasty" is associated with a team (including by myself). But Lebron himself is a dynasty in a sense. Man went to the Finals 8 times in a row with two teams, winning 3. For me that's already enough, since 3 rings, in the case of a team, is kind of seen as the unofficial threshold to be called a dynasty. He ruled the East for a decade. I'm a Kobe/MJ guy myself but this is a case of hating and/or the fact Bron's career has been so exceptionnal/different that it doesnt fit with the usual narratives where a star player is associated with ONE team. A more interesting discussion would be to see if it's more difficult to win multiple (at least 3 let's say) rings as the top player with one franchise or with multiple ones (which means with different "cores"). I think there can be interesting arguments for both cases.
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Who was Lebron’s core star teammates that he led to those chips? Lebron is a mercenary
Does it really matter?
*Had Lebron gone to Philly instead of LA...Embiid would have a championship and AD would not.
*Had Lebron gone to Chicago instead of Miami, Rose would have a championship and Bosh would not.
* Had Lebron gone to Boston instead of Back to Cleveland, Boston would have more rings and Kyrie/Love would be ringless.
Lebron was the catalyst for all of those championships.
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Nobody is denying that Lebron is great, he never led a dynasty. He has 2 failed attempts though with the Heatles and 2nd stint Cavs
Ozymandeas
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So why has Chicago been trash for almost 25 years then
He isn’t the goat thats for sure.
You got that right!
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
This is all a fourth season of episodes on what if.
Since lebaylor or lebron jagged't away.
two four peats, two three peats, and failed to win two back to back titles as well.
How can we ever speculate lebaylor or lebron.
would be effective as a victor in the finals.
In any proposed what if scenario.
Art Barr
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Regardless of the opinions in this thread, no one should ever lebron james for that 1st stint in cleveland. They were absolutely a trash organization and front office. Tjey drafted like shyt, did not make trades (amare for jj hickson) and the best signee thst had was washed shaq
Stop LeBron had a whip when he was drafted as a rookie. Plus unlike popular belief. Which has now been dispelled.
by the very player.
whom the media said had no like for bron in dmiles. We know was all pr media shyt blame face ass cap. As in comparison to magic as a rook. With an incredible lineup that included z, d miles, thug life, and an entire roster of seven footer prospects to ramp in diop, etc. Plus a lineup that also later add boozer or an equally similar pedigreed player at pf to replace boozer as well.
Michael Jordan never had the talent LeBron always had. Plus LeBron to appease him failing with an overly potent rookie roster. LeBron never galvanized like bron was supposed to.
plus drafted as the number one pedigreed magic with hops player of a generation to do. Instead we got him emulating an obvious post season fail.
of shirking his natural and de facto undisputed leadership at pg. To play the three and feed into being a low bball iq generation non savior. By having a midget backcourt like he had in high school l. Where once again lebeon shirked his natural at point guard. To chide an inferior and smaller player at pg. For not being a leader. When bron shirked leadership and draft pedigree at the one. To then subsequently lose in the finals to popvich.
the same popvich who sank to besting lebron.
Playing racist parochial vs public league school style strategy. to beat the once great parochial private high end high school. Proverbially at his own parochial schooling sttategy based game. Showing lebron would have lost in public school.
if he was not gifted his genetics.
to go to saint vincent of st mary's.
Plus also then lose in the first second finals foray.
to a former Celtics championship pedigree player turned coach. Where all LeBron had to do was play his natural at the one and exploit the same nightly mismatch that the showtime Lakers preyed upon. Instead since LeBron watches no film and has no bag from studying past greats. Bron gets easily exposed by his lack of bball iq knowledge.
by any coach with actualized former pedigree.
as a coach or player in the finals.. When in miami that should have never have happened. Yet in bron's failed coup of riley in miami. Born should have studied showtime magic.
so he would have had pedigreed know how. Along with strategic mastery of those final moments to convert.
in unison meets legacy style play with riley to successfully complete the first four peat since bill russell.
yet that inability to be prescient about and convert to win. Comes from lebron's overtly obvious lack of attention to detail.
coupled with a flawed understanding of winning at the ultimate level.
excersizing and utiltizing high percentege winning basketball.
where this lack of ability.
in actualized skill and inability to close out and win the final round. Is completely exposed. Plus will always limit LeBron James.
from ever being recognized as the goat in the game of basketball.
as Michael Jordan is the goat because he bested this bill russell racist misappropriated goat title from bird.
that in doing so. settled the eastern seaboard argument.
of whom the goat skill player in basketball history is and will forever be Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
art barr
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