How hated would Muhammad Ali be if he fought in today's landscape?

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I was pondering this question as I was heading off to sleep..

We all know how adored he is now after his career..but between switching his name and converting to Islam..refusing to go to war with some of these quotes:

• No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder, kill, and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end.
• Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go ten thousand miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?
• My enemy is the white people, not the Viet Cong ... You're my opposer when I want freedom. You're my opposer when I want justice. You're my opposer when I want equality. You won't even stand up for me in America because of my religious beliefs, and you want me to go somewhere and fight, when you won't even stand up for my religious beliefs at home

Plus his trash talking of opponents...wouldnt it be fairly safe to say that its possible he would be hated right now almost as much as Mayweather?

As counter points...Obviously, Ali doesnt have the domestic abuse history and it'd be merely speculative as to whether or not he'd flaunt all the money he would have amassed in todays age in the same arrogant manner that Floyd does...Also, he was very charismatic and "likable" to me and it was perhaps more apparent that his trash talking wasn't necessarily rooted in a mean spirited way compared to Mayweather...but I legitimately am not sure how much he would be hated. His quotes listed above were also rooted in peace and in civil rights injustice...so it is a bit different in comparison to Floyd saying he wouldnt donate to Africa or whatever..but I think there is enough there to at least ponder the question as to whether he would be hated or not, and if so, to what degree. He wasn't always adored during his time as it was. I will definitely say that his in-ring ability and style would be far more respected than Floyd's however.

What do you guys think?

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Most hated man in Amerikkkan sports like he was in his prime...

Ali was loud and played "the race card" every chance he got...CACs despise every black man, women and child who does that...He was a womanizer to so the feminists would also be on his ass...

The Pacquiao boxing fan wouldnt have appreciated prime Ali's style either...I always find it hilarious how they say Floyd should be more like Ali...Ask them how many full prime Ali fights they seen and the answer always is just Cleveland Williams, rumble and thrilla highlights...The latter of which were two fights well after Ali's prime where he had lost his legs and started taking punishment...Prime Ali moved more than Floyd, he was always dancing circles around his opponents and CACs hated him for that just like they call Floyd a "runner"... Ali had more power though and swag in the ring hence the flashy finishes...

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Most hated man in Amerikkkan sports like he was in his prime...

Ali was loud and played "the race card" every chance he got...CACs despise every black man, women and child who does that...He was a womanizer to so the feminists would also be on his ass...

The Pacquiao boxing fan wouldnt have appreciated prime Ali's style either...I always find it hilarious how they say Floyd should be more like Ali...Ask them how many full prime Ali fights they seen and the answer always is just Cleveland Williams, rumble and thrilla highlights...The latter of which were two fights well after Ali's prime where he had lost his legs and started taking punishment...Prime Ali moved more than Floyd, he was always dancing circles around his opponents and CACs hated him for that just like they call Floyd a "runner"... Ali had more power though and swag in the ring hence the flashy finishes...

Yeah I hear you on that...my reference to the respect of his fight style was essentially from the increased power and KO ability. Ali was great at avoiding damage in his prime as you said...but he was still a bit more willing to engage in exchanges more often than Floyd does.

I just find it interesting that he was so hated then..then became beloved over the years (late in career and after) despite the reasons for which he was hated never really vanished (as far as I know he never back-tracked on the social/race issues nor his stance on not fighting in Vietnam). I think the shift over-time in the public about the validity of the war there helped him in retrospect..but imagine if he said that about the Iraqi war (especially if a draft was instituted) and didn't support the troops there the vitriol he'd see from white america would have been on the next level.

I dont think Floyd will ever become beloved..but I do think there will be less hate from the general public on his fight style after he retires.

 

[Willy Waffle]

let's see.....

he's black
loud
thinks highly of himself
knocks motherfukkas out and makes fools of them

last but not least,................. he's muslim, in todays society some think is evil considering all the shyt going on overseas.

this sounds like the devil to me

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

Dont compare floyd to ali in any shape, form or fashion.

With the race issues of today ali would be loved by all blacks.

Wasnt scared to lose and took on all tough fights w/out delay(based off my knowledge).

 

[Scientific Playa]

i don't think he would face anything today like the climate he dealt with during his prime...



good pbs doc

Muhammad Ali: Made in Miami

 

[Big Boss]

Dont compare floyd to ali in any shape, form or fashion.

With the race issues of today ali would be loved by all blacks.

Wasnt scared to lose and took on all tough fights w/out delay(based off my knowledge).

not if he called another black boxer a gorilla

 

[NZA]

no military draft today, that was a huge catalyst for cac hate. mike tyson converted to islam and there was no increased hate.

with ali being a heavyweight who took more risks than he needed to, he would be liked more than mayweather. ali also does far better interviews and says more interesting things than floyd.

one thing i wonder is would ali ever take a loss in today's climate...

 

[Big Boss]

TBH the heavyweight division is weak in this era, ali wouldn't be ali.

 

[Lord Piffington]

I´ll start with saying that Ali is the greatest ever and a man that I respect highly...


with that said.. ali was a fukking a$$hole brehs.. fraizer helped his ass and he went on calling fraizer uncle tom this and gorilla that.. that was beyond being entertaining and "loud"..I´ll never understand why he went so hard after a man who helped him so much and even gave him the oppertunity to get his belt back

 

[Milk N Cookies]

let's see.....

he's black
loud
thinks highly of himself
knocks motherfukkas out and makes fools of them

last but not least,................. he's muslim, in todays society some think is evil considering all the shyt going on overseas.

this sounds like the devil to me

My exact thoughts, he'd get a lot of heat for having a different opinion & not caring that's he's arrogant. Kinda like the Kanye West of boxing.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I´ll start with saying that Ali is the greatest ever and a man that I respect highly...


with that said.. ali was a fukking a$$hole brehs.. fraizer helped his ass and he went on calling fraizer uncle tom this and gorilla that.. that was beyond being entertaining and "loud"..I´ll never understand why he went so hard after a man who helped him so much and even gave him the oppertunity to get his belt back

listen Ali was an ass and far from perfect but people hating on him for that gorilla shyt is pathetic..

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

Compared to defending donald sterling, turning a blind eye to africa and being bff with beiber. Along with having no religion.

not if he called another black boxer a gorilla

You mean like if he was to call him crispy(dark black) like tariq called another black men?

Within context of that situation it worked. He played/entertained his audience. Like floyd did but floyd defenders act like hes some nice guy who just got a bad rap. When its the exact opposite.

 

[Lord Piffington]

listen Ali was an ass and far from perfect but people hating on him for that gorilla shyt is pathetic..

nothing pathetic about it, if you bite the hand that feeds you (wich it did at that time) you´re an a$$hole no ifs and buts about it..

 

[Big Boss]

Compared to defending donald sterling, turning a blind eye to africa and being bff with beiber. Along with having no religion.




You mean like if he was to call him crispy(dark black) like tariq called another black men?

Within context of that situation it worked. He played/entertained his audience. Like floyd did but floyd defenders act like hes some nice guy who just got a bad rap. When its the exact opposite.

Yep but this is the weakest era of heavyweights.

He fought in the GOAT era of heavyweights