How far is it to Mars?

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Speaking of our solar system...why not try to reverse the greenhouse effect on Venus?
you know what's crazy, the Russians in the 70s actually landed a camera on the surface of venus and got a picture sent back (my dates might be off but it was a while ago). If you know anything about the surface of venus that is truly incredible for when they did it. The pressure and heat on the surface is INSANE.
 

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There isn't enough energy in our entire Solar System to accelerate a craft to 10% of the speed of light, and, due to relativity, we'd NEVER actually reach light speed.​

I do not think that we will be able to reach the speed of light but its not because of your reason. There is plenty of energy in the solar system to propel a spaceship at the speed of light. It will involve nuclear fusion most likely and figuring out how to harness that energy from nuclear fusion is the key to make it happen. We will never reach the speed of light, but a spaceship with mass and humans might be able to reach 90% speed of light and that would make the trip to Mars quicker.

55,000,000 km / 300,000 km per second = 550/3 = ~200 seconds = 3 minutes. So there you have it. If we can travel at the speed of light it will take about 3 minutes.
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I do not think that we will be able to reach the speed of light but its not because of your reason. There is plenty of energy in the solar system to propel a spaceship at the speed of light. It will involve nuclear fusion most likely and figuring out how to harness that energy from nuclear fusion is the key to make it happen. We will never reach the speed of light, but a spaceship with mass and humans might be able to reach 90% speed of light and that would make the trip to Mars quicker.

55,000,000 km / 300,000 km per second = 550/3 = ~200 seconds = 3 minutes. So there you have it. If we can travel at the speed of light it will take about 3 minutes.
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Even if you are correct the human body cannot withstand those G forces. You literally would have to have some anti-gravity machine for the ship, when the ship comes to a stop you'd splatter on the ship walls.
 

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you know what's crazy, the Russians in the 70s actually landed a camera on the surface of venus and got a picture sent back (my dates might be off but it was a while ago). If you know anything about the surface of venus that is truly incredible for when they did it. The pressure and heat on the surface is INSANE.

It's literally hell, 800+ degrees plus pressure I think either 90 or 900 times that of Earth, sulfuric acid rain, constant lightning in the air that can't hit the ground due to the pressure, rivers of lava, non-stop volcanic activity.

shyt's fukkin savage, so anything making it through the atmosphere to the surface and surviving longer than 10 seconds is fukkin amazing. :ohhh:
 

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It's literally hell, 800+ degrees plus pressure I think either 90 or 900 times that of Earth, sulfuric acid rain, constant lightning in the air that can't hit the ground due to the pressure, rivers of lava, non-stop volcanic activity.

shyt's fukkin savage, so anything making it through the atmosphere to the surface and surviving longer than 10 seconds is fukkin amazing. :ohhh:
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Traveling faster than light in a medium is thru the laws of physics impossible, but moving faster than the speed of light might be possible thru a Alcubierre warp bubble drive. Basically it puts a spacecraft in a bubble of warped energy that compresses space in front of the bubble and expands in in back thus propelling said spacecraft.

Personally I still think teleportation is the holy grail but it is highly disappointing how we haven't put the proper time and resources towards a faster way to travel thru space.

On a related note I also think the holy grail for spacecraft engines(and really all engines) would be something that absorbs and harnesses ALL the energy types on the electromagnetic spectrum. Not only would this provide for limitless energy but would also give a way to protect our frail bodies and equipment by negating those most dangerous of cosmic rays.
 

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Funny this came up. I have been reading book called "Packing For Mars" by Mary Roach who investigates the ways NASA and other space agencies prepare to send folks towards Mars. They are putting in isolation chambers for months at a time to simulate the conditions of a multi-month constant space flight to mars.

The most daunting is the pyschological effects of us leaving the planet and watching as everything we ever known and love disappears into the black void of space to became a speck as we speed towards another hostile world. Being stuck in small spaces for months or years with crappy food and knowing you just can't walk away and go home.



Someone will start the murdering
 

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Funny this came up. I have been reading book called "Packing For Mars" by Mary Roach who investigates the ways NASA and other space agencies prepare to send folks towards Mars. They are putting in isolation chambers for months at a time to simulate the conditions of a multi-month constant space flight to mars.

The most daunting is the pyschological effects of us leaving the planet and watching as everything we ever known and love disappears into the black void of space to became a speck as we speed towards another hostile world. Being stuck in small spaces for months or years with crappy food and knowing you just can't walk away and go home.



Someone will start the murdering

What this breh said ...... :manny:
 

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Sensitive Blake Griffin said:
but are the particles traveling faster than light or is it about the frequency of it? (or are those two things essentially the same?)

I swear I'm gonna go back to school one day and get my physics degree. Love this stuff.

The actual particles are traveling faster than the speed of light. This is only possible through a medium (water, air, diamond, etc). 'Frequency' applies to the measurement of a wavelength, which is what all matter behaves like at the quantum level, while Einstein stated that light behaves like a particle (matter). Put them together, and you get....



:mindblown:

Like I said before, this is beyond my understanding.....for now. Even though I'm not planning on going into Quantum Physics, I can somewhat appreciate the math.​
 
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Magnus Warhol said:
I do not think that we will be able to reach the speed of light but its not because of your reason. There is plenty of energy in the solar system to propel a spaceship at the speed of light. It will involve nuclear fusion most likely and figuring out how to harness that energy from nuclear fusion is the key to make it happen. We will never reach the speed of light, but a spaceship with mass and humans might be able to reach 90% speed of light and that would make the trip to Mars quicker.

55,000,000 km / 300,000 km per second = 550/3 = ~200 seconds = 3 minutes. So there you have it. If we can travel at the speed of light it will take about 3 minutes.
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There's something you're not considering in your calculations: How much fuel you're gonna need. The more fuel you store for the mission, the heavier the craft becomes and the more fuel you'll need to move the craft + the fuel. It sounds viable, but the math just doesn't support it currently or in the foreseeable future, IMO.​
 

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say, maynes with the Venus photos, with the atmospheric pressure on Venus being so much heavier than on earth, isnt it likely that the planets core is being compressed much like the center of a star before it bursts? Are not planets like Venus basically an orbiting time bomb?

Fukcit b, me and the shorty are goin to the planetarium today! I love this space shyt and can never get enough. I wish I was good at math so I could understand the astronomy and physics of it all though :manny:
 
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