How far is it to Mars?

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Short answer:

The closer an object gets to the speed of light, the more mass it gains until the object's mass is infinite. In order to move an infinite amount of mass you'd need an infinite amount of energy. Since infinite energy doesn't exist, you'll never reach the speed of light.​

E=mc2

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I guess the answer to the question has to do with where the planet is in relation to Earth....I think at one point Mars is a "2 year distance" away ... which is why I believe (my understanding) satellite probes/rovers are sent instead when the Mars is a "few months distance" away..

Thus, to get more bang for your buck if you are a "colonist" going to colonize Mars, you would leave when Mars is a "few months distance" away ....and prepare to stay for two year increments...at least with current technology...that's my understanding...
 

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Short answer:

The closer an object gets to the speed of light, the more mass it gains until the object's mass is infinite. In order to move an infinite amount of mass you'd need an infinite amount of energy. Since infinite energy doesn't exist, you'll never reach the speed of light.​

Zero Point energy....we don't know how to tap into it efficiently.


Free-energy devicesAs a scientific concept, the existence of zero-point energy is not controversial although the ability to harness it is.[14] Over the years, there have been claims of devices capable of extracting usable zero-point energy.[citation needed]

In quantum theory, zero-point energy is a minimum energy below which a thermodynamic system can never go.[14] Thus, none of this energy can be withdrawn without altering the system to a different form in which the system has a lower zero-point energy.[14][not in citation given]

Current claims to zero-point-energy-based power generation systems are in contradiction with known physics laws and have the status of pseudoscience.[14]

One of the hypotheses that claims that zero-point energy is infinite is stochastic electrodynamics. In it, the zero-point field is viewed as simply a classical background isotropic noise wave field which excites all systems present in the vacuum and thus is responsible for their minimum-energy or "ground" states. The requirement of Lorentz invariance at a statistical level then implies that the energy density spectrum must increase with the third power of frequency, implying infinite energy density when integrated over all frequencies.[15] However, as pointed out, this energy can't be withdrawn from the system.[14][not in citation given]

According to a NASA contractor report, "the concept of accessing a significant amount of useful energy from the ZPE gained much credibility when a major article on this topic was published in Aviation Week & Space Technology (March 1st, 2004), a leading aerospace industry magazine".[16]

The calculation that underlies the Casimir experiment, a calculation based on the formula predicting infinite vacuum energy, shows the zero-point energy of a system consisting of a vacuum between two plates will decrease at a finite rate as the two plates are drawn together. The vacuum energies are predicted to be infinite, but the changes are predicted to be finite. Casimir combined the projected rate of change in zero-point energy with the principle of conservation of energy to predict a force on the plates. The predicted force, which is very small and was experimentally measured to be within 5% of its predicted value, is finite.[17] Even though the zero-point energy is theoretically infinite, there is as yet no evidence to suggest that infinite amounts of zero-point energy are available for use, that zero-point energy can be withdrawn for free, or that zero-point energy can be used in violation of conservation of energy.[18]
 

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There isn't enough energy in our entire Solar System to accelerate a craft to 10% of the speed of light, and, due to relativity, we'd NEVER actually reach light speed.​
A solar sail could go 10% the speed of light. I however don't see how we can ever travel at light speed for a billion different reasons.

Here is my question: Do photons have mass? I've read they have no "resting mass" but this subject is very hazy. Because if they do have mass, wouldn't their mass become infinite once they're moving at the speed of light? Wouldn't this "infinite mass" create some sort of black hole?

Also, another question. Did Einstein believe the speed of light is constant in all aspects or does e=mc2 only apply to light in a vacuum? Because light's speed does slow down when passing through matter. (I may just be interpreting this wrong)
 

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We should be traveling at the speed of light by now...........

we are to busy killing ourselves for nothing to be worried about living up to our greater potential

At the very least we should have an operating moon base by now.

Launching from the moon would cut the time down that it takes to get to Mars.

Humanity should be doing more. We waste too many resources on shyt that doesn't matter.
 

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At the very least we should have an operating moon base by now.

Launching from the moon would cut the time down that it takes to get to Mars.

Humanity should be doing more. We waste too many resources on shyt that doesn't matter.

1) But would it be that significant since Mars comes the closest to Earth (the Moon is always relatively close) every 2 years?? :ohhh:

2) Or are you talking about the fact that the lack of gravity on the Moon makes it easier to launch craft??

3) Or both of the above??????
 

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At the very least we should have an operating moon base by now.

Launching from the moon would cut the time down that it takes to get to Mars.

Humanity should be doing more. We waste too many resources on shyt that doesn't matter.




the same "rare earth" minerals that go in android phones is used for space ships
 

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the same "rare earth" minerals that go in android phones is used for space ships


If there was ever a good reason to go space exploring its definitely to extract resources..............think of the environmental damage on Earth from extraction processes of minerals in general we could halt or lessen if we had the logistics for an interplanetary supply line (:wow:) to move minerals efficiently(relatively :heh:).
 

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We should be traveling at the speed of light by now...........

I thought we would be on some Blade Runner shyt with flyingcars and those moving platforms that are in the airports would be regular sidewalks and shyt.

:wtf:?

2013 looks flabby
 

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1) But would it be that significant since Mars comes the closest to Earth (the Moon is always relatively close) every 2 years?? :ohhh:

2) Or are you talking about the fact that the lack of gravity on the Moon makes it easier to launch craft??

3) Or both of the above??????

I was thinking more like a sling-shot around earth to the give spacecraft more momemtem.
 

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If there was ever a good reason to go space exploring its definitely to extract resources..............think of the environmental damage on Earth from extraction processes of minerals in general we could halt or lessen if we had the logistics for an interplanetary supply line (:wow:) to move minerals efficiently(relatively :heh:).



its probably some shyt that we never seen before in those space rocks though :NJ: i thought there was a thread on here somewhere about that rock that crash landed into russia that left "super-diamonds" in its wake but here is the article


Russia's large and super abrasive diamonds stir up world markets - English pravda.ru


we could be using those to improve life right now but instead its just getting set up to be a monopoly friend, capitalism is like the demon of greed
 

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Short answer:

The closer an object gets to the speed of light, the more mass it gains until the object's mass is infinite. In order to move an infinite amount of mass you'd need an infinite amount of energy. Since infinite energy doesn't exist, you'll never reach the speed of light.​

Bullshyt. Infinite Mass means no room for anything else anywhere.


Don't let this guy or even scientist deceive you into believing their theories and hypothesis are facts. There's so much we don't know and never will know. Rabbits know just as much about traveling at the speed of light as our top scientist. We don't know sh:t.
 
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