How do y'all expect to build strong black communities without marriage or having kids?

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As a college educated six figure breh, who married a college educated six figure Asian woman, we have no kids planned and it's a beautiful feeling.:ahh:

Ima let y'all deal with these underachieving single mothers , overcompensating corporate shills, and worn out weave wearing hoes yall got runnin 'round, who refuse to accept responsibility. :hubie:
 

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3 million is actually a lot
Out of 20-21 million others. You're looking at 1 in 7 blk women.
It's really not.
Also want to mention that only half of those women are below the poverty line or are women who've never been married before.

Meanwhile, blk men use this racist talking point as an idea that most or MAJORITY of blk women are single mothers living off the system, making babies OOW it's a lie and a grievous one at that.
Especially considering how many blk men are out of the equation themselves when portraying themselves as viable mates. And not to mention the amount of single blk men who have children themselves.
 

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Out of 20-21 million others. You're looking at 1 in 7 blk women.
It's really not.
Also want to mention that only half of those women are below the poverty line or are women who've never been married before.

Meanwhile, blk men use this racist talking point as an idea that most or MAJORITY of blk women are single mothers living off the system, making babies OOW it's a lie and a grievous one at that.
Especially considering how many blk men are out of the equation themselves when portraying themselves as viable mates. And not to mention the amount of single blk men who have children themselves.
20 million black women are not the age bracket we're thinking of in these conversations; that would make 80%+ of black women 18-34. That bracket is like half our women, or 12 million. 1 out of 4 is enough to be an issue IMO.

Edit: Is this about single motherhood or government assistance?
 
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20 million black women are not the age bracket we're thinking of in these conversations; that would make 80%+ of black women 18-34. That bracket is like half our women, or 12 million. 1 out of 4 is enough to be an issue IMO.

Edit: Is this about single motherhood or government assistance?
Your right. The 3 million stat is for ALL single blk mothers regardless of age. In fact the 3 million number encompasses blk teen single mothers and older blk women.
So you would need to subtract about 800,000-1 million for single mothers over the age of 35 and under 18 (Also note blk teen pregnancies have decreased by 49% since the 1990s)

2 million single mothers out of 12-13 million blk women ages 18-35. So still roughly about 1 in 6 blk females ages 18-34. Not majority.

And when we take a look at blk male statistics that might make them undesirable mates like criminal records, or who have children themselves, this conversation gets a little less one-sided. Which is why I asked about these numbers in the first place. Not to excuse or cape for single motherhood, but to locate these facts within the context of building the blk family.
 

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@Shadow King its about both.
2.2m out of 12-13m blk women is not 70% of blk women or the majority of blk women.

Also only under half of those single mothers are below the poverty line and on welfare. So this idea that the majority of blk women in the viable dating ages are single mothers living off welfare is ridiculous. And we don't have the numbers for blk men who are single fathers or who have children themselves.
 

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@Shadow King its about both.
2.2m out of 12-13m blk women is not 70% of blk women or the majority of blk women.

Also only under half of those single mothers are below the poverty line and on welfare. So this idea that the majority of blk women in the viable dating ages are single mothers living off welfare is ridiculous. And we don't have the numbers for blk men who are single fathers or who have children themselves.
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I can't agree with you 100 because I've seen many kids from a healthy two parent household get caught up in the streets. When it comes to children you never know who they will become no matter how much positive upbringing you provide. Granted a child is better off in a stable healthy environment rather than a dangerous unurturing one.

Dude, literally EVERY statistic says that single parent kids do worst and are more likely to do crime than kids from 2 parent homes


Statistics reveal stark challenges for children raised in one-parent households
Kathryn Wall, Springfield11:46 p.m. CST November 24, 2012

the plan.

Heather Tucker married a man and thought she’d spend the rest of her life with him. The union didn’t make it to a second anniversary.

Jacqueline Beebe was already a single parent when she married for the first time. The couple had a son. The man left four months later.

Andrea Smith felt like she could not leave a troubled relationship — she had two young children to think about. But she ended up leaving precisely because she was thinking about her children’s future.

David Parrott was married with two children — until he came home from his out-of-town job to find his wife’s car repossessed because she had not been paying the bills.

Research shows the clear link between poverty and the growth in single-parent households nationally and locally. For instance, a local report found one of every two single mothers in the Ozarks lives in poverty.

Statistically, a child in a single-parent household is far more likely to experience violence, commit suicide, continue a cycle of poverty, become drug dependent, commit a crime or perform below his peers in education.

According to the Single Parent Success Foundation, a national nonprofit that encourages educational opportunities for single parents:

• 63 percent of suicides nationwide are individuals from single-parent families.

• 75 percent of children in chemical dependency hospitals are from single-parent families.

• More than half of all youths incarcerated in the U.S. lived in one-parent families as a child.


The News-Leader spoke to four families who are trying to escape those statistics.

Although all have diverse backgrounds and different living arrangements, all are experts at making it work. All have unique and complex schedules, with delicate balancing acts between work, play and all that comes in between.



The super mom
Only 7.7 percent of all out-of-wedlock births in the country in 2008 were to girls under the age of 18, according to the Heritage Foundation.

Heather Tucker is used to the static that comes with calling herself a single mother.

“A lot of the assumption is I was a teenage mom. I was 25 when I had Faith, and married,” she said.

Online court records show a number of protection orders against her husband while they were married. Her ex-husband was never criminally charged, but she felt she was in danger.

Faith is now 13. She has chosen not to have contact with her father. The divorce was finalized just after Faith’s first birthday.

Today, Tucker works full time while balancing coursework at Evangel University. Tucker’s mother also lives with them.

She helps with Faith, and Tucker helps when her mother has health needs. She is a cancer survivor.

The schedule at Tucker’s house is a complex one. The day of the week determines who gets the car — on days Tucker is at school, she drops off and picks up Faith from her own school. When it’s a work day for Tucker, her mother drops them both off and picks up Faith later.

This semester has been a little more hectic, but next semester Tucker will be taking night classes, allowing her to work more during the week. She’s looking forward to more family time on weekends.

Faith is well-adjusted, excelling at school and by all indications, a happy teen.

But Tucker often thinks about the other children in similar situations, in addition to wondering if Faith really is getting everything she needs.

She advocates for churches to step up, starting programs that give children with only one parent the option of spending time with other kids like them, or mentors who could provide a good example.

Maybe a support group for single parents. Or a handbook of local resources for single parents.

“As a church body, we need to do something. And I’m ready,” she said.

“We need to take it to the next level. It’s not about breathing Christ down their throat. It’s about sharing that love.”

From welfare to work
Thirty-seven percent of families led by single mothers nationwide live in poverty. Comparatively, only 6.8 percent of families with married parents live in poverty, according to data from 2009 compiled by the Heritage Foundation.

Jacqueline Beebe was 27 when she had her first son, Jaryd.

She was in Seattle then, having moved there from Phoenix. Before that, she had grown up in Branson.

She couldn’t wait to leave home, but eventually things soured between herself and Jaryd’s dad — though they’ve stayed friends throughout the 11-year-old’s life.

She decided to move back to the Ozarks, to be closer to family. Years later she met another man, married him and had another son, Jayden.

Four months after Jayden was born, his father left.

She filed for divorce. Court records show he never showed up for the hearings.

Now 3, Jayden is still too young to understand how his mother struggles to make it to work on time, get him to day care, get Jaryd to school, make sure homework is done, feed the kids, pay bills, kiss boo-boos and everything else that goes with parenting all alone.

But Jaryd does.

“I wish my 11-year-old didn’t know how poor we are,” Beebe said as she tears up.

Beebe knows all the statistics, especially for boys without a father figure. According to the National Fatherhood Initiative, children who live in fatherless families use mental health services at a higher rate, have more behavior problems at school and are more likely to enter the juvenile justice system.




So we should get married and reproduce...for the sake of a community....

WTF is this...the 50s...

You can create a community without rampant procreation...

Name ONE in the world.

Oh really? Other races seem to have healthy sex lives and no kids before marriage.

What's the difference here? Asian women and White women have sex before marriage too. Why aren't they single mothers at 22 too?

Plenty of White women are having kids out of wedlock. Just look at your local trailer park. They are the majority. They are the reason Trump is president.

One of the mindfukks that White folks pulled on you nikkaz is that you only associate upper and middle class White people with "whiteness". Meanwhile, the majority of White folks in the country are obese rednecks who are dying of drug addiction and having tons of kids out of wedlock and y'all have learned not to associate that with "whiteness". Then you ignore all the professional, educated Black folks out there who are not having kids out of wedlock and associate "blackness" with all the ghetto Black people who would be having tons of kids out of wedlock regardless of their race.
 
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