How do people retire from the military poor?

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Most people aren't in the military 20+ years, and honestly, the military is really shytty when it comes to pay unless you're like JAG, an Army Physician/HPSP, or a military officer with a government position.
Plus, there's a reason a lot of people are in the military (excluding the Air Force) and that's because they're either poor, a fukk-up who avoided felonies, or a "patriot" (which translates to heavy-drinking, conservative moron).
None of those three will be good with money, especially if they have no concept of bills because they were able to blow their entire military paycheck on booze, a basic Ford Mustang, and shytty tattoos.


Ahahhahaha :russ: I have noticed that
 

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Your viewpoint would be biased though. Your husband was one of the ones who did it right and chances are he'd only associate with other ppl who are similar to him.

He may only associate or be closer to people who are simmilar to him as far as drive and seriousness, That doesnt change who he /we actually know.My opinion[on this topic] is still based on a shytload of guys who actually did 20+ active duty since we actually know alot of people that served with him over the years, doesnt matter of we like/ love or hangout with them.

now if were talking about people who did 6 or 10 or 8 and we count as friends and family then that is more likely to be a result of " we like and associate with these folks and they are likeminded"

ftmp they are all doing well too.
 

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For real. Give an 18 year old free room, free food, free bills, and 1500 a month and see what he does with it
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I'm in the Navy and been in for almost 6 years.

A lot of people in the military bank on that steady paycheck and with this credit card happy environment they try to stunt. Rent, expensive car, stunting and going out every weekend will definitely put a hurting in your pocket if you don't have any financial management skills. Which a lot of people don't.




I'm still sitting on deployment money from 2013 and my car is paid off:ahh:

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Someone explain this to me because I'm confused from dating someone in the military (AF) and then reading through this thread; clearly I've either been lied to or misunderstood...

Someone working in the Air Force but living off base is getting their rent paid for them by the military on top of getting their salary, or they're just getting their salary and paying everything from out of that?

You get a housing allowance that's based on your zip code on top of your regular salary
 

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Someone explain this to me because I'm confused from dating someone in the military (AF) and then reading through this thread; clearly I've either been lied to or misunderstood...

Someone working in the Air Force but living off base is getting their rent paid for them by the military on top of getting their salary, or they're just getting their salary and paying everything from out of that?
you've been getting lied to :mjlol:



Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH)
The Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) is a U.S. based allowance prescribed by geographic duty location, pay grade, and dependency status. It provides uniformed Service members equitable housing compensation based on housing costs in local civilian housing markets within the United States when government quarters are not provided. A uniformed service member stationed outside the U.S., including U.S. territories and possessions, not furnished government housing, is eligible for Overseas Housing Allowance (OHA).




they get that... PLUS the check from that chart i previously showed you




now here's the catch.... and the MAIN reason dudes get married so fast... YOU DON'T GET IT UNLESS THE BASE IS FULL OR YOUR RANK IS HIGH ENOUGH


they not going to give every kid, fresh out of basic, a damn house


usually you get it at e-4 or so... and first they will try to give you on base housing for free



EXCEPT WHEN YOU HAVE A FAMILY/MARRIAGE... then you can get it day 1 out of basic and school... so people will rush to get married for that check... even fake a marriage to get that check and get out of staying in a dorm room :francis:
 

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But breh, all the frees shyt they get while in, then the shyt they get once they get OUT. :francis:



Naw, I'm not seeing it b.
Like one breh said that's not a retirement. The retirement comes if you put I think at least 20 years. Gotta make a career out of that shyt like a regular gig. Those cats are :win: or should be. Dudes that do the regular stint, then get discharged don't feast like that unless they stacked their bread while they were in. Yeah, get the GI Bill, VA loans on cribs, and other perks, but I don't think they get a pension like that, at least not until they reach a certain age I think. My pops did four years in the late 60s - early 70s and he got his pension about ten years ago. It Wasn't shyt, about $800 a month. He just socks that shyt away until he starts drawing SS and his full pension from his civilian job. Hope the old man makes there :mjcry:

I clearly said in my post the ones who do 20 years:stopitslime: My bad, didn't see that. I guess bad money management. That and I believe the pension is based on rank too. If you didn't make officer in 20 years:francis:.
 

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He may only associate or be closer to people who are simmilar to him as far as drive and seriousness, That doesnt change who he /we actually know.My opinion[on this topic] is still based on a shytload of guys who actually did 20+ active duty since we actually know alot of people that served with him over the years, doesnt matter of we like/ love or hangout with them.

now if were talking about people who did 6 or 10 or 8 and we count as friends and family then that is more likely to be a result of " we like and associate with these folks and they are likeminded"

ftmp they are all doing well too.
go on down to a bar right outside of a major base... or those old military/veteran lodges you see all over the place


some of these dudes aren't smart... straight alcoholics... living paycheck to paycheck... can't/don't work... spending all their money on liquor and women




i'm not disagreeing... saying it's the majority of 20 plus vets


but nobody ever said it was the majority... he just asked how it happens
 

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Negro that's why I'm askin this question :martin:



I'm askin HOW you got people who, after 20 years are barely gettin by and gotta scrape the bucket.



HOW does it get that bad?
You're missing the point people are making the people you're referring to haven't spent 20+ years in the military. You're referring to people who do the 4-6.
 

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go on down to a bar right outside of a major base... or those old military/veteran lodges you see all over the place


some of these dudes aren't smart... straight alcoholics... living paycheck to paycheck... can't/don't work... spending all their money on liquor and women




i'm not disagreeing... saying it's the majority of 20 plus vets


but nobody ever said it was the majority... he just asked how it happens


I see what you're saying. Just hasn't been my experience.
I just moved from Norfolk(Hampton roads) that has the highest concentration of active duty, reserve and retired military in the world and never saw any noticeable amount of 20 year vets who didn't have shyt. Lesser years? Sure

If I did meet some I would just think they're the small portion of ain't shyt mother fukkers that are in any workforce.

There's NFL and nba players that are broke as shyt 5 years out the league so there's some military dudes that are ass out 5 years out the military.

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