How do people retire from the military poor?

[The Devil's Advocate]

Substitute the J's with Dunks and the drinks with weed and the back tatts with some bytches and you have me



Young nikka put miles on that Eclipse



Got on game and copped the 93 Caprice w the Flows



Damn shame how accurate that picture is

that was all of us breh



to this day... i have never balled like military balling


like another poster said.... name another time where you were GUARANTEED to bank $1500 a month minimum

 

[6ixSigma]

then reality hits..... hold up i'm 20 years in and only 48?

i still need to get another job


what do you mean this job only pays 50k a year


what do you mean government jobs are highly competitive

Forgot add. "Don't worry, I'll get a contractor job overseas". Meanwhile, most of their careers they were probably saying "why all all these contractors here when we could just have a service member doing that job".

I swear I get alot of emails and facebook messages from prior military asking me to put them on overseas but these contract jobs are not out there like they use to be.

 

[Marc Spector]

Where are you getting this information from.

People that get out after exactly 20 years do so because they didn't make rank to continue staying in.

Everyone else that does 20+ are considered lifers who get out when they feel like it and don't do dumb shyt with their money.

Officers have college degrees and a lot of networking to fall back on.



And you do realized that recently discharged military get first dibs on a lot of different jobs

we'll agree to disagree. Ive seen first hand guys get out as soon as they got 20 (because they HATED military life at that point) and ive seen distinguished nco and officers struggle on the outside. Ive lived outside of fort knox for half my life so this is first hand experience.

 

[6ixSigma]

That's what I'm saying. Most if not all people who retire after 20 years got a job waiting on them before their last day.

Not true. If you were a high ranking officer or very top of the enlisted side (E-8 or E-9) you may because you had the chance to work side by side with the right civilians.

But the average person who retires does at the rank of Sergeant First Class (E-7), probably does not have a college degree and depending on your job just because you did 20 years means nothing. I know people who were truck drivers and cargo handlers for 20 years and when they get out they are in for a rude awaking.

Their resumes are on point.

Not true again. The military really just started maybe in the last 10 years requiring internal resumes. If you try and use that resume in the civilian world your resume will be thrown in the trash. That's another reason alot of vets have a had time transitioning.

My boy was getting out after 12 years this year and I told him send me his resume. No lie it was about 5 pages. I asked him straight up "wtf was this"?

Now a days they have class to help you transition such as resume building and what not for everyone. One thing I have noticed. You're top performers in the military will usually be top performers on the civilian side.

And I highly doubt someone who did 20 plus years is broke.

Again not true. The other poster broke that down though

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Not true. If you were a high ranking officer or very top of the enlisted side (E-8 or E-9) you may because you had the chance to work side by side with the right civilians.

But the average person who retires does at the rank of Sergeant First Class (E-7), probably does not have a college degree and depending on your job just because you did 20 years means nothing. I know people who were truck drivers and cargo handlers for 20 years and when they get out they are in for a rude awaking.



Not true again. The military really just started maybe in the last 10 years requiring internal resumes. If you try and use that resume in the civilian world your resume will be thrown in the trash. That's another reason alot of vets have a had time transitioning.

My boy was getting out after 12 years this year and I told him send me his resume. No lie it was about 5 pages. I asked him straight up "wtf was this"?

Now a days they have class to help you transition such as resume building and what not for everyone. One thing I have noticed. You're top performers in the military will usually be top performers on the civilian side.




Again not true. The other poster broke that down though

Maybe I'm just speaking from my time in the service. I was in the marine corps assigned to an f18 fighter attack squadron. You either worked on aircraft or computers. Most of the officers were pilots. And some of the aircraft maintenance mos jobs required you sign up for 6 years instead of 4 because the training was so long. the only people that struggled after they got out, only did 10 years or less and simply didn't prepare because they got kicked out or simply didn't know any better.

 

[6ixSigma]

Maybe I'm just speaking from my time in the service. I was in the marine corps assigned to an f18 fighter attack squadron. You either worked on aircraft or computers. Most of the officers were pilots. And some of the aircraft maintenance mos jobs required you sign up for 6 years instead of 4 because the training was so long. the only people that struggled after they got out, only did 10 years or less and simply didn't prepare because they got kicked out or simply didn't know any better.

All those were very specialized jobs so I can see how they walked out the service into jobs. Same as intelligence, communications, contracts, etc in the Army. But for the vast majority of people who had non highly skilled jobs, it's nothing really "special" about them when they get out.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

I always wondered. I'd heard military men in the U.S got free college yet none of them have degrees except some career military men that do things like medical, engineer. What happened to the free college?

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

All those were very specialized jobs so I can see how they walked out the service into jobs. Same as intelligence, communications, contracts, etc in the Army. But for the vast majority of people who had non highly skilled jobs, it's nothing really "special" about them when they get out.

I was stationed in San Diego. The MP's on base had first dibs on corrections, border patrol and federal law enforcement gigs. But you're right though. When you take the ASVAB try to get a high score or don't take it at all. I actually went into an MOS I wanted. A lot of people that join don't really pay attention to the actual job they're going to be doing. My biggest regret is not joining the Air Force. I probably would've did 20 years then got out and went to some agency like the NSA or FBI. I only did 4 years but I planned for life after the military a year before I discharged.

 

[6ixSigma]

I always wondered. I'd heard military men in the U.S got free college yet none of them have degrees except some career military men that do things like medical, engineer. What happened to the free college?

In my opinion most are lazy. Most want to party and chill and not do the college thing until they actually need it for promotion and even then they put it off. Or they wait until it's time for them to get out and then think, "oh $hit i might need a degree" then start.

Anyway, while you are serving you get $4,500 a year for tuition (i think it's 4 years max). After you get out is when you get the big money for tuition and the housing allowance which is like $1,300 a month (for 36 months) if you served on active duty (full time) for 3 years at least.

I was only in the reserves (one weekend a month, 2 weeks a year until i deployed for a year which was active time). So i got my $4,500 a year and a few hundred a month. I now have M.S. degree. I paid more out my pocket than the tuition benefits of being part time military but i still took my free money. I actually used all my benefits during my B.S. if I can remember correctly.

 

[6ixSigma]

I was stationed in San Diego. The MP's on base had first dibs on corrections, border patrol and federal law enforcement gigs. But you're right though. When you take the ASVAB try to get a high score or don't take it at all. I actually went into an MOS I wanted. A lot of people that join don't really pay attention to the actual job they're going to be doing. My biggest regret is not joining the Air Force. I probably would've did 20 years then got out and went to some agency like the NSA or FBI. I only did 4 years but I planned for life after the military a year before I discharged.

Most took jobs for the big bonuses back in the 2000s.

I know i was going to take a generator tech job because it had a 30k bonus. Luckily my uncle was a first sergeant and asked me "did i really want that job or just the bonus"? So i took a logistics job and it was the best decision i could have ever made. Made my transition to the civilian world easy to.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Maybe I'm just speaking from my time in the service. I was in the marine corps assigned to an f18 fighter attack squadron. You either worked on aircraft or computers. Most of the officers were pilots. And some of the aircraft maintenance mos jobs required you sign up for 6 years instead of 4 because the training was so long. the only people that struggled after they got out, only did 10 years or less and simply didn't prepare because they got kicked out or simply didn't know any better.

you and them have very good jobs breh

just like a lot of numbers that are surprising on the coli (avg. income, avg. household income, black pop. in america).... it's a lot bigger world than those in good standing, tend to notice


you worked on planes... others worked on computers


now how many people worked in the mess hall coming out to those great jobs? or drove trucks? or were admins?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I always wondered. I'd heard military men in the U.S got free college yet none of them have degrees except some career military men that do things like medical, engineer. What happened to the free college?

you already feel set.... well first of all... just try to study and go through that free college while getting up at 4am every day and working a job with no set hours

might take you 8 years to get a 4 year degree WHILE IN.... meanwhile... like the chart is saying... you already getting 1700-2500-4000 a month with no bills to pay... most people are like fukk college, i'm just gonna collect this check



another major realization when you think about it.......... most of the military is uneducated (past high school)

so you're not dealing with the best and brightest as they try and sell you.... most of the enlisted couldn't get ANY job that required a degree... they get out of high school, enlist, get taught their specific job... and here goes free everything

why would you even bother with college when you already doing better than most college grads off top?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

didn't know there were so many former servicemen on the coli


bringing back so many memories



sometimes i'm sitting at work.... or paying bills..... and i sit back and think "i should have just stayed in.... shyt would be so fukking easy"

but nah... i like my freedom, not being moved every 2 years, not being called out to the desert anytime they feel like it, not wearing my uniform every day, not living with 60k people all doing the same shyt, living the same life

but dammit you want to talk about fun, exploration, coming of age, MONEY, benefits, and friendship.... you'll never have that again

 

[A.R.$]

It's easy if you never learned how to manage your money. A lot of people on the military are very impulsive so they buy alot of dumb shyt. They also tend to marry early and get divorce early. Shark loan people target people in the military as well. Outside of military bases you will often see a used car dealership or something like that so they can take advantages of the young naive military members.

 

[42 Monks]

In my opinion most are lazy. Most want to party and chill and not do the college thing until they actually need it for promotion and even then they put it off. Or they wait until it's time for them to get out and then think, "oh $hit i might need a degree" then start.

Anyway, while you are serving you get $4,500 a year for tuition (i think it's 4 years max). After you get out is when you get the big money for tuition and the housing allowance which is like $1,300 a month (for 36 months) if you served on active duty (full time) for 3 years at least.

I was only in the reserves (one weekend a month, 2 weeks a year until i deployed for a year which was active time). So i got my $4,500 a year and a few hundred a month. I now have M.S. degree. I paid more out my pocket than the tuition benefits of being part time military but i still took my free money. I actually used all my benefits during my B.S. if I can remember correctly.

You're sort of there, but kinda off

enlisted military is one of the most stressful job environments there is - i don't blame any kid that can't handle that + classes on the side. its rough. I was 100+ days in the field over the course of the year while I wasn't even deployed - and I worked in what is considered a cush job field...

also, the housing allowance thing is based on where you want to go to school at. not a set income. (you'll see the smart vets in areas like dc and new york because the housing allowance is upwards of 3k)

the transition from active to anything is rough though. going from active duty to reserves.... man, i think you now know how i looked for a whole year i was barking at people who outranked me, waiting for them to fukk up just once so i could let off all that pent up rage from ft. hood

i didn't chill out til MAYBE a year later. but the vet transition is rough. it really is