How did we get to the point where some of y'all dislike LGBTQ more than white supremacists

[Low End Derrick]

Been like that, breh. Where you been? In the TLR hierarchy of hatred, it goes:

1. LGBTQ
2. Social media
3. Single mothers
4. Foreigners/“tether c00ns”
5. Hip hop music
6. White supremacists
7. H0lt
8. Gen Z
9. New Yorkers
10. Napoleon

 

[Youngdev]

Are yall aware that not everybody uses social media,and knows everyones posting history? Some people just see a tweet and post it,its really not that serious. I dont even look at the twitter name before I post a tweet.


This all goes back to yall looking for more ways to convince people that not doing (blank thing that democrats want ie loving gays+voting Biden) means your a right wing republican.



How about I heard about the Klan rally,but obviously had no intentions of going. Went to my old hang out spot,and its now filled with trannys and kids dressed as opposite genders#SickPuppyshyt



By coli logic as soon as I step outside its "Get your damn Klansmen ass back in there"



Nah,Im good out here chief,I refuse to grind on Raul just to ease your suspicions

Your old hang out spot randomly turned into a trans spot

You went there hung out long enough and found out where the klan meeting was

 

[invalid]

I think for every issue that the black community has, there is a parallel in the white community.

When you look at conservative white people, they have an immediate fear of losing their position to other groups that are growing in population and economic power. They fear losing their power and being made second class citizens and not having anyone to punch down on, so they are lashing out.

I think with respect to the topic and the black community, for many years, being LGBT was considered second class status to black people. An easy marginalized group in which black people could punch down on. For most of the history of our society, black people were at the bottom, but not exactly rock bottom, in which LGBT occupied that space. And I think black people were comfortable with that.

Now that the LGBT community are acquiring rights and privileges for themselves, it's catapulting their status over black people and what we're witnessing, just like with conservative whites, is a lashing out over a loss of position and status.

A black man can call another black man gay and it is viewed as demeaning. What happens when calling another black man gay is no longer demeaning? I think a lot of black men are trying their hardest to hold onto that. Because when gay is no longer rock bottom, being a regular straight black man will be.

And I'm specifically speaking on black men because nobody cares that women are gay/bi whatever.

 

[cobra]

to be fair, we aren't making much progress against either the LGBTQ or white supremacy
Black people aren't an organized and serious community like back in the 60s...just grifters on each side...

 

[Wildhundreds]

Even LGB looking side ways at those other letters.. Everyone needs to be cool and relax.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

It's disappointing as a black man seeing this turn of events. People are mirroring their oppressors and call it progress.

That what happens when people get power. Asians are playing the game right now too.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

to be fair, we aren't making much progress against either the LGBTQ or white supremacy
Black people aren't an organized and serious community like back in the 60s...just grifters on each side...

Nah. Completely different from the 60s. The game changed and we didn't. We still talk about marches and everyone else call lobbyist.

 

[hcobbland84]

George Lincoln Rockwell and members of the American Nazi Party attend a Nation of Islam summit, 1961 - Rare Historical Photos

George Lincoln Rockwell, flanked by members of the American Nazi Party, listening to Malcolm X's speech at Black Muslims meeting.

rarehistoricalphotos.com

This is not new behavior.​

I always thought this was a Westside Gunn album cover?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I always thought this was a Westside Gunn album cover?

Just keep this in mind next time someone Black says 'things were better when we were segregated'.

Nazis agree with them.​

 

[HarlemHottie]

If you don’t like it, the ignore button is there for your pleasure.

I do the most because you guys never ever think about black lgbt+, you mean to tell me they’re living the high life. The amount of gay and trans black kids that are left homeless is staggering. A lot of them young black men.

1. If they are black then by your very own DEFINITION they don't. The black gay experience is fundamentally different from everyone else and any gay black person would tell you that.

1.5 Obviously But to say that Travon's murder didn't re-open the conversation over the summary execution of black people (by police or otherwise) is intellectually dishonest. And to say the police, and their lack of response, to that encounter wasn't part of the problem either is also dishonest.

2. If you don't think this culture war bullshyt isn't also made to obfuscate anti-black shyt as well then you ain't paying attention. Look how easy it was in Florida to slide in some sweeping education changes (around saying slavery was BENIFICIAL to black people), right next to the book banning of LGBTQ stories. The attack is quadruple pronged. Mostly because black people, Latino people, white women and gay people combined will be able to win nearly every election in every major state. So, you erode the collective spirit of these communities (book banning), take away their rights (abortion and voting rights) or make sure they don't get here in the first place (immigration) and then white men can still control the country.

Its a "first they came for the gays, then the latinos, then they came for me" kinda thing. By not fighting for the rights of marginalized people...you make it significantly easier for the power group to oppress YOU TOO.

3. Two things can be true at the same time. For as much as there is a cadre of (mostly white) LGBTQ lobbyists and power brokers. There's also an element okie-doke (mostly from the Right) in getting black/brown people to be upset at gender/sexual politics.

We lost a very close family friend to aids when i was in 3rd grade, so my mom and i started volunteering at gmhc (gay men's health crisis). I worked in high fashion. So I seen a lot of gay shyt, but nothing like this. This is.... beyond.

I don't know why yall insist on talking to people like we slow. I'm very aware of the issues gay black men face. That's not who we talking about and yall both being disingenuous for acting like it is. We're talking about white men and their paid colored front men.

Isn't is weird how bp are the front line for protests, but at the back of the line when the spoils get divvied? Isn't is weird how that crosses all political, religious, professional, and academic settings? Are we gonna address that elephant in the room, or would you rather castigate the black people actually focused on concerns shared by the other 90% of black people?

 

[KGlock]

So black lgbtq have power, this is news to me? Show me

I don't need to show shyt, go on Twitter. Also Black lgbt is 1m people in the US according to quick Google search.

Those black lgbt ppl tend to align more with their lgbt tag rather than their black label, similar to how some black feminist align with their gender more than race.

Black folk been tortured, beaten, raped, oppressed killed for centuries. I'm not lumping them with people who didn't pick the cause of these crakkas and non blks acting funny style (skin) Meanwhile you got lgbt that can switch from gay, pansexual, trans and what the fk ever back to straight when it suits them. Let me know when black folk can change our skin. It's not remotely the same but you dummies done fell for the okie doke of allowing mentally ill ppl (primarily talking the trans more than gay/lesbian) to be grouped in the same bunch. If you can't see a group that is a small minority of the population have more pull than black folk collectively then I don't know what to tell you. Obama whole term was helping them out while doing very minimal for blk folk. The people who built this country

 

[Paradoxx]

I don't need to show shyt, go on Twitter. Also Black lgbt is 1m people in the US according to quick Google search. Those black lgbt ppl tend to align more with their lgbt tag rather than their black label, similar to how some black feminist align with their gender more than race. Black folk been tortured, beaten, raped, oppressed killed for centuries. I'm not lumping them with people who didn't pick their skin color. Meanwhile you got lgbt that can switch from gay, pansexual, trans and what the fk ever back to straight when it suits them. Let me know when black folk can change our skin. It's not remotely the same but you dummies done fell for the okie doke of allowing mentally ill ppl (primarily talking the trans more than gay/lesbian) to grouped in the same bunch. If you can't see a group that is a small minority of the population have more pull than black folk collectively then I don't know what to tell you. Obama whole term was helping them out.

I knew I shouldn’t have taken you serious as soon as you typed this. Go on Twitter…..just lmao

 

[Still Benefited]

Your old hang out spot randomly turned into a trans spot

You went there hung out long enough and found out where the klan meeting was

Point is Ive only stepped foot outside so far. Maybe the drinks I had before I got there will compel me to go back in and dance the night away with Raul as friends. But your bold accusations on top of the fakkitry certainly aint convincing me


#Bothsides is simply black people getting fresh air. Now woo me back in to your establishment by getting rid of your new clientelle. Or make it worth our while with free wings,drinks,strippers,and a strong apology.

 

[KGlock]

I knew I shouldn’t have taken you serious as soon as you typed this. Go on Twitter…..just lmao

Please, it's waste of time going back and forth either way. You and the other confused folk are a lost bunch. Also when I say check Twitter, all you need to input is canceled by lgbt and you get a host of articles, from da baby to Mr rogers

you talk bout 'you can't take me serious' and ignoring the rest of my post just a roundabout way of saying you can't refute my points.
So im out.

 

[Paradoxx]

I don't know why yall insist on talking to people like we slow.

Because each response shown about this topic always lacks insight and retrospective

I'm very aware of the issues gay black men face. That's not who we talking about and yall both being disingenuous for acting like it is. We're talking about white men and their paid colored front men.

Let’s get this straight, I don’t care about white people. I hate that you guys think about them so damn much, white this or that. As if they’re the default of everything. Specify that you’re talking about white people because they don’t occupy my mind like that. Anytime this board talks about lgbt+, it’s black lgbt+ I think about certainly not white people. I know that if white gays get something bad, the black ones will get something even worse. Then it just goes down the line.

Isn't is weird how bp are the front line for protests, but at the back of the line when the spoils get divvied? Isn't is weird how that crosses all political, religious, professional, and academic settings? Are we gonna address that elephant in the room, or would you rather castigate the black people actually focused on concerns shared by the other 90% of black people?

Now if you want to talk about white lgbtq and how they contribute to the oppression and stagnation of black people. Then that’s a completely different subject matter.