How did they manage to screw up SD Live so BAD?
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To be fair, Shane saved that fued (coupled with the ref botch)Use footage of shane screwing austin in 1998 as a footnote in a 2017 feud wit aj styles and owens
yeah writing. the whole year has been a mess.
- Aj styles losing title to cena
- wasting royal rumble on randy orton
- john cena 2 week title reign
- bray Wyatt title reign
- Randy bray feud
- randy title reign
- face that runs the place regulated to mid card
- wasting mitb on baron corbin
-jinder mahal title reign after the first month
-dolph ziggler
- losing mike mizgoatin
-aj kevin owens feud lasting way too long
on the bright side, lean gone.
- Aj styles losing title to cena
- wasting royal rumble on randy orton
- john cena 2 week title reign
- bray Wyatt title reign
- Randy bray feud
- randy title reign
- face that runs the place regulated to mid card
- wasting mitb on baron corbin
-jinder mahal title reign after the first month
-dolph ziggler
- losing mike mizgoatin
-aj kevin owens feud lasting way too long
on the bright side, lean gone.
Kinguno
The Immortal
Yes, he is. He is the Vince Russo, and Road Dogg is the Vince McMahon. So all of the blame can't be put on Road Dogg, but it's entirely possible he is messing with Ward's vision for the show, instead of improving it.
They held back an original black man
Covered some of this in my Recap of SmackDown
Smackdown Recap 9/26/17
Playaz Eyez
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- Ward's clear demotion even though Roaddogg swear's that's not the case
- What felt like a 6 month feud between Orton/Jinder
- Cena unnecessarily beating AJ for the title
- Constantly leaving multiple people off TV, especially in the middle of pushes/changes (Gable/Shelton teamed up for a nice match, then weren't even in a backstage segment the following week). At one point, there was an SD episode where Rusev, Lana, Tamina, Harper, Mojo, Ryder, Rowan, Tye, and Breezango all didn't appear. That's atrocious.
- Canceling Talking Smack
- Sending Miz to Raw
- What felt like a 6 month feud between Orton/Jinder
- Cena unnecessarily beating AJ for the title
- Constantly leaving multiple people off TV, especially in the middle of pushes/changes (Gable/Shelton teamed up for a nice match, then weren't even in a backstage segment the following week). At one point, there was an SD episode where Rusev, Lana, Tamina, Harper, Mojo, Ryder, Rowan, Tye, and Breezango all didn't appear. That's atrocious.
- Canceling Talking Smack
- Sending Miz to Raw
Breh Obama
First Breh President. Coli Prophet.
The Jinder experiment has been a bust
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
Like I said before, the writing was on the wall when Cena won at the Royal Rumble. From that point forward, the show just went into a downward spiral. It took too many hits to return to the quality it was at last year.
And I've also said this many times before, but SmackDown is in the Mike Scully era now. You don't just come back from that.
And I've also said this many times before, but SmackDown is in the Mike Scully era now. You don't just come back from that.
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
It was nice the first month and a half or so, then they turned him into generic mid-00s WWE heel #4. All the stuff that made him intriguing was taken away, other than the Singh Bros.
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
I don't why people act like the problems now weren't there before.
As great as the early episodes of SD Live were, they were still full of problems. They let that Ellsworth storyline go on WAY the fukk too long, which took up a huge chunk of AJ's title reign. Ziggler was over AF when he beat Miz for the IC title, but they gave it right back to Miz two weeks later. Episodes only had two to three matches because the roster was so thin, and they ignored the tag division pretty much until The New Day came over. Remember American Alpha's title reign? Remember Heath Slater & Rhyno? Remember the Wyatt Family?
As great as the early episodes of SD Live were, they were still full of problems. They let that Ellsworth storyline go on WAY the fukk too long, which took up a huge chunk of AJ's title reign. Ziggler was over AF when he beat Miz for the IC title, but they gave it right back to Miz two weeks later. Episodes only had two to three matches because the roster was so thin, and they ignored the tag division pretty much until The New Day came over. Remember American Alpha's title reign? Remember Heath Slater & Rhyno? Remember the Wyatt Family?
Breh Obama
First Breh President. Coli Prophet.
Ortons title reign killed the energy tooI don't why people act like the problems now weren't there before.
As great as the early episodes of SD Live were, they were still full of problems. They let that Ellsworth storyline go on WAY the fukk too long, which took up a huge chunk of AJ's title reign. Ziggler was over AF when he beat Miz for the IC title, but they gave it right back to Miz two weeks later. Episodes only had two to three matches because the roster was so thin, and they ignored the tag division pretty much until The New Day came over. Remember American Alpha's title reign? Remember Heath Slater & Rhyno? Remember the Wyatt Family?
Smackdown always had these problems. They masked a lot of their faults by putting AJ Styles out there for 25-30 minute matches/segments on a 2 hour show. Once AJ dropped the title, they waned back on his TV time & that really exposed how shytty the product really was. Women's battle royals every week to determine the #1 contender, James Ellsworth taking up 10-20 minutes, Dolph Ziggler being a bytch for 10-15 minutes and Shane McMahon all up in the video. How is it OK for Shane McMahon to be fighting on a minor PPV when Luke Harper and Sam Zayn can't even get on television? How does Breezango's shytty comedy schtick get more TV time than Chad Gable & Shelton Benjamin? Why are they trying to push Aiden English into being a carbon copy of Elias?
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
Everything you listed as an issue people fukk with. The women are popular and decent ring and mic wise. James Ellsworth got mega pops and mega heat. He is versatile. Y'all don't like the Dolph stuff but he gets heat. Not "get off my TV" heat because how does that exist IN A fukkING ARENA?! Just as stupid as X-Pac heat. You know the shyt he got as A HEEL? Anyway people fukk with Shane, he takes good ass whippings. His Kane and Orton feuds sucked because their characters were portrayed as damn near serial killers before Shane got involved. Luke never got over that well post Wyatt. Inconsistent reactions. Zayn should have turned heel Sunday and teamed up with Owens. It'll happen eventually where one of them turns to match the other's alignment. People like Breezango, they are funny. They would be even more over if they got a serious push. Aiden English is getting good heat and it gets better the more competent he becomes instead of being a jobber.
You like that corny ass Luke Gallows nerds shyt, so your opinion is invalid.
I swear to god, you're the most annoying poster on this entire god damn forum. Anytime I say anything critical about Smackdown, your ass quotes me on some captain save-a-hoe bullshyt. But yet, you cannot refute anything I say & you just post the flabby Marcus Camby smiley fishing for daps. Get an argument next time you try quoting me & stop stanning over a mediocre product
Everything I posted is stuff people don't fukk with, which is why people are bashing Smackdown right now:
- I agree that the women are popular, but their program is repetitive. Every post-ppv Smackdown is either a 4-way or battle royal to determine the next #1 contender. RAW has the exact same problem with booking women's wrestling. I don't understand why the women can't be booked in storylines like the men. Maybe one day they'll be able to figure it out.
- James Ellsworth isn't talented enough to warrant substantial TV time on a 2-hour show when there are performers more talented than him on the roster. He was a novelty act that got run into the ground. People got legitimately tired of him in the AJ Styles/Dean Ambrose feud, which is why he was being booed when he was still a babyface. If he's getting mega pops & mega heat, then why is he stuck where he is now? He probably won't be on the roster post-Wrestlemania because his schtick has run its course.
- Ziggler is easily the worst part of Smackdown. You can hear a pin drop in the arena when his segments air. No one is even reacting to it, and the faint booing he's getting is because the stuff is terrible. There's absolutely zero heat in that storyline.
- Luke was getting good reactions post-Rumble/pre-Mania when he was apart of the AJ Styles/Bray Wyatt/Randy Orton feud. They just yanked him because of the battle royal botch, and he's never really been able to get his momentum going since he's never booked consistently on television.
- I get people like Breezango, but I don't really hear the arena reacting to them like they do with New Day. The Breezango stuff is more catered to the Internet audience, and it's cringeworthy to me to see on live television - especially when the crowd doesn't sell it.
- I like Aiden English, but his gimmick is being portrayed better by another wrestler on the other brand. I get they need a lower mid-card heel to work, but at least make it different
Luke Harper got cheered against Styles big time and damn sure was more wanted by fans than either Blandy or Wyatt.