Off the top of my head, I think he's Talking about the Moors of Iberia/ Morroco, Mauritania and how the Arabs bred them down. Which is true, but unrelevant when discussing the conquest
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How did the Arabs get through North Africa so fast in the 7th century
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Off the top of my head, I think he's Talking about the Moors of Iberia/ Morroco, Mauritania and how the Arabs bred them down. Which is true, but unrelevant when discussing the conquest
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do you not understand the knowledge and technology levels of the groups they defeated up through Europe?...
You're downplaying the knowledge transfer between africa and Mediterranean cultures....
It was like if aliens came to earth.
Apologies, I stopped reading here
In all intellectual honesty, we cannot believe that these people willing gave up their Gods, Culture and Ideolgies without Military intervention
if someone's to hear your opinion on islam they'd think it's as pacifistic as buddha.
but I haven't given my opinion on it yet.I'm not quite sure what you're implying here... elaborate
Is this the 'primitive African' ideology?
They gave it up for trade purposes. The Arabs throughout Africa was smart to control and the trade routes and ports which made conversion easy. Damn I wish the African wasn't too friendly the Europeans and Arabs were just so vicious.
when the environment/culture is islam/christian there's never much forced conversation that needs to be done.
my first bytch was arab and told me i couldnt marry her cause i wasn't muslim
Why we on North Africa let's talk about how the civilization of the Minoans and Rome/Greece were built by Blacks who knowledge came from Northern and central Africa.
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For one Allah was on their side.
These are western ideologies, you see this often during Western teachings of the occupation of Africa
that 'Africans were too friendly, openly gave away their land, resources and infrastructure'..
Nothing more than a general misconception... powered by the social order. Wars were fought, many casualties.
What if I told you that black people of the Ethiopian, Somalian, Eritrean phenotype were once a peoples of GREAT GREAT GREAT numbers who populated the whole of the middle east before they were systematically killed untill numbers dropped as low as you see them today.
this is fact btw
we can move on once my questions get answered
I agree but the way the Arab infiltrated Africa was by the trading routes. Read up on the downfall on the greatest western African civilizations. The Arabs started by trade and they made their move.
Ethiopia had a massive kingdom which stretched from Ancient Rome to India. Parts of its existence is in pieces.
All the gods of India was African I mean I can go on but that doesn't mean a massive war was fought and blacks got wiped out. It takes gradual process. Government, people and war
Well I know for a fact that Borders has some books on it... plus there's the internet if you want to research.. or you can listen to a nikka that comes directly from these cultures...
You're confused.. you actually believe that they gave up all their gods, culture, and ideologies.... The current african muslim groups are some of the only places on earth that still practice the First religions.. Have u been to international mosque before.. all types of languages, ways of dress, ideas, and views on shyt.
real quick.
1) the first contact w Muslims was when African groups took in the first Muslims who were being chased and murked off by Arab groups who didn't like the ideas behind - one god, hygiene, women property rights, and the tenets of Islam (charity, praying n shyt)
2) The military attacks attacked other Arab and Persian groups first.. and involved freed African slaves.... The African attacks came later.... but your being foolish talking about original cultures... WHEN most of THE groups that were attacked in Africa were CHRISTIAN groups... that was the target because they had the kingdoms by then - plus were already monotheistic. Ethiopia, Egypt, Nubia--- Christians who were flipped to Islam... not Original africa flipped to Islam.
3) East Africa... some trade shyt.. plain and simple. That's why that happened. whether it was presian, ottoman, arab,,,, they were the get down or lay down groups.
4) Islam isn't like hindu, christian, Jewish, all the random religions that used to exist.. IT Allows u to keep ur original culture and most of ur values. So it was appealing to the African leaders. There was no 'we are a black' people back then.. There were thousands of disconnected groups. It broke down Ethic loyalties so it allowed huge groups to be formed.... they went on to enlighten the rest of the world.