You're trying to use hiphop as straw man but its not gonna work out in your favor
Aside from being one of the most influential cultures in the world that generated BILLIONS of dollars in direct sales, there's an argument that can be made for it's responsibility, at the very least in creating the tools responsible, for modern day Cut & Paste culture. Hip hop music is the most shining, and most realized example of Cut & Paste culture presented as an art form. Taking a sitar sample from here, some drums from a white rock group here, and some synthesizers from a german new wave group and somehow blending that into a beautiful mix is POWERFUL.
Add a nikka like Rakim on top of that spitting pro black lyrics with a dash of mysticism, metaphors, and a smooth, effortless flow and you got something damn near Nuclear.
The limitations of digital sampling equipment in the 80's forced black kids to find a way to push the equipment beyond it's limitations to get the most out of the machines. The adjustments to these limitations created some of the most powerful black music ever made. The companies responded in various ways as well, first by adding more sample time and increased sample quality. Later, as technology advanced and memory became more affordable, they started adding things like waveform editing so you can visually see what you were recording. Programs like Recycle! and Acid come to mind specifically for loops but companies like Digidesign, later renamed to it's parent company Avid, took this to it's height.
Avid ProTools is the most popular digital multimedia recording program on the market. Just about everything you see and hear is being ran thru that program. The beauty of that program, and EVERY OTHER DAW ON THE MARKET, is the ability to do what? Cut and paste things from one track to another. You know.. that shyt those black kids in the projects were doing
The whole approach to the way we present digital media GLOBALLY is directly influenced by African Americans, creating African American music known as RAP, spawned from the African American culture of Hip Hop.
Why do you need a thread to figure this out? It's not exactly the most profound revelation if you simply looked upon the history behind many of the shyt cacs celebrate and indulge in.
AAs and Jamaicans practically created modern music, imo. Just trace every form of popular music.
What most of you don't get is, we aren't saying that Black Americans don't have the most swag/style. We aren't even arguing against that.
What we ARE saying is that we need more of a "protective barrier" over our own culture. The reason so many groups EXPLOIT it is because we don't have ownership of very things we are celebrating ourselves for. Other groups make money off of us instead of the other way around.
Right now, they're actually benefiting the most from our own culture.
Some of what you are calling "emulating" is actually just them exploiting and using us to get richer.
Our culture has been appropriated by the dominant white power structure as well as other minorities in the name of commercial profit. The nikkas who are getting mad at us for saying this, please tell me, what benefit have AAs received from having their culture so open and proliferated? Yeah, we "originated it", but we don't own it. We need to effectively coalesce around a meaningful and BENEFICIAL collective identity.
In addition to this, Arab-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Jewish-Americans, etc all have more of a protective barrier for themselves, that are reserved for their community only. For example, this is why it'd be difficult for a bunch of black men (not just AA) to go to their communities and set up a bunch of stores selling them stuff that they are known for (their clothing styles, the food they like, jewelry etc) and make a lot of money off them. They'd try to block us and even if we did manage to do it, a lot of them wouldn't shop there on purpose. They have more of a barrier and their own "code". Just because you are unaware that exists, doesn't mean it's not there.
All other minorities have their own language, religion, and culture that allows them to form a protective barrier and clearly define their community. Not all the bros in here were trying to "hate on" AAs, most were right that our culture are too OPEN and exploited for other groups economic gain.
That's ALL I thought this thread was going to be about. Fam I honestly had no idea it would have gone the route it did. I had no idea that this would have been the place to pontificate what the evil Jews are doing and what we should and shouldn't own and how its just a Pyrrhic victory and how Jamaica actually created hip hop .
I deadass thought this was going to be a lighthearted thread .
That's ALL I thought this thread was going to be about. Fam I honestly had no idea it would have gone the route it did. I had no idea that this would have been the place to pontificate what the evil Jews are doing and what we should and shouldn't own and how its just a Pyrrhic victory and how Jamaica actually created hip hop .
I deadass thought this was going to be a lighthearted thread .
lololol, I guess the traffic light is culture since we invented that. Everybody uses those right? What about the modern video game console, we invented that too
What we ARE saying is that we need more of a "protective barrier" over our own culture. The reason so many groups EXPLOIT it is because we don't have ownership of very things we are celebrating ourselves for. Other groups make money off of us instead of the other way around.
Right now, they're actually benefiting the most from our own culture.
Some of what you are calling "emulating" is actually just them exploiting and using us to get richer.
Our culture has been appropriated by the dominant white power structure as well as other minorities in the name of commercial profit. The nikkas who are getting mad at us for saying this, please tell me, what benefit have AAs received from having their culture so open and proliferated? Yeah, we "originated it", but we don't own it. We need to effectively coalesce around a meaningful and BENEFICIAL collective identity.
In addition to this, Arab-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Jewish-Americans, etc all have more of a protective barrier for themselves, that are reserved for their community only. All other minorities have their own language, religion, and culture that allows them to form a protective barrier and clearly define their community
It's normal to expect to see much more benefit from our cultural labor.
There's nothing wrong with appropriation as long as your race is being FAIRLY COMPENSATED for that labor. But when you are getting the short end of the stick while others are getting rich off of your labor, it's nothing to brag about. That's what nikkas in here don't get.
The billions of dollars other races have made off of us has not been reinvested into the black community. Some individual black people got rich, but the majority of the wealth goes to and stays in non-black hands because of the lack of black ownership. You're right that you do not and will not see this happening with any other community with strong cultural protective barriers (Asian, Jews, Arabs etc). Ownership of your means of production emanating from your own community is a necessity for a healthy and prosperous culture.
In addition to this, Arab-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Jewish-Americans, etc all have more of a protective barrier for themselves, that are reserved for their community only. For example, this is why it'd be difficult for a bunch of black men (not just AA) to go to their communities and set up a bunch of stores selling them their own stuff that they are known for (their clothing styles, the food they like, jewelry etc) and make a lot of money off them. They'd try to block us and even if we did manage to do it, a lot of them wouldn't shop there on purpose. Yet we allow it in our communities all the time. They have more of a barrier and their own "code". Just because you are unaware that exists, doesn't mean it's not there.
Not all the bros in here were trying to "hate on" AAs, most were right that our culture is too OPEN and exploited for other groups economic gain.
Island niccas are the worst I remember my dads people came here all at my moms side while begging me to let them borrow my master p album, imitating slik the shoker, and using our slang incorrectly Everybody wanna be AA but nobody wanna be a AA
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