How could someone not believe in the Bible and Jesus when real-life evidence exists??

[boogers]

historical jesus isn't the son of god tho.

bro is basically a crazy cult leader if anything

dude was 00s palestine marshall applewhite. jesus had some great teachings but he'd also tell people shyt like forget your families and friends and follow my cult or youre not getting into heaven. islam has a much more sensible interpretation of christ. christianity wasnt supposed to happen anyway, his teachings should've become the new judaism. i dont believe christ himself was open to gentiles following him. christianity is in general more Pauline than Christian anyways lol. paul was much more influential than christ in the long run

i appreciate christianity as a bronze/iron age source of knowledge but to believe the bible is the literal word of god is ignorant and kind of foolish lol

 

[levitate]

i worked in radiation sciences

its exactly as I just mentioned, its an extrapolation

it was originally used in forensics where it was accurate in the 10s-100s of years

and then someone got the idea to extrapolate it to 1000s then finally to millions and billions of years. The problem with estimation using halflives using radioactive sources is that there is no "standard" where its proven that an isotope was created at X date then millions of years past and they measured its radioactive decay.

the method used in forensics involved measuring the amount of radioactive material in bones that should not be produced after someone dies, so the quantity of it is remarkably accurate in determining when someone died but not how old the "isotope" is.

whereas geologists are taking ground samples and attempting the same logic but not the same basis.

An extrapolation based on sound science vs “this book is true because this book says it is true”?

There’s no point in continuing this discussion.

 

[levitate]

That was from one man's interpretation of the genealogy of the people in the Bible and that happened in the 1600s

It’s not one man’s, you can do the math yourself. The genealogy is literally spelled out in detail in the Bible.

 

[Tasha And]

Hogwarts exists because Scotland exists.

 

[010101]

..........*

 

[boogers]

The problem with estimation using halflives using radioactive sources is that there is no "standard" where its proven that an isotope was created at X date then millions of years past and they measured its radioactive decay.

i do think its sorta funny that we suppose some things can take thousands or millions of years to decay yet we wont ever really be able to truly verify that... we'll all be dead! but we do seem to be right about stuff (in the future) a lot of the time. for instance... im sure you already know this, but we were drawing skeletal molecules in chemistry for over a hundred years before we saw an actual molecule with a microscope and took a picture

i trust carbon dating. the general time scale for our planet seems pretty accurate to me. i wish i could find a good visual representation of the hadean era on youtube. its strange to me that people say they dont "believe" in certain science, as if any other explanations remotely come close to making sense. abiogenesis combined with evolution makes perfect sense to me.

i consider myself agnostic because i believe that god could very well exist but i think god would be something we couldnt fathom. imagine the power it took to "create" all the energy in the universe. god would be absolutely insane. he would be everything at once, and he sure as shyt wouldnt care if we were eating apples or knowing if our dikk was hanging out or not. god wouldnt even be a he - what would god have a dikk for?

a lot of jewish religion is just so clearly stolen taken borrowed from sumer/mesopotamia that anyone who's decently well read ought to be able to make the connection. gilgamesh is a fantastic story. you can read a summary on wikipedia if you want.

anyways sorry for the long rambling. i got these 250mg edibles and they get me going lmao

 

[Chrishaune]

Why do you have people talking down on Jesus but don't dare fix their mouth against Buddha, Allah, Zeus, Baphomet, etc?

Must be hate.

 

[MMS]

An extrapolation based on sound science vs “this book is true because this book says it is true”?

There’s no point in continuing this discussion.

ive already shown that its not "sound science"

and I've already indicated that the bible makes no mention of how old the earth is, only how many generations of man there are since Adam. Its the people who take that amount of years and say the earth therefore is "this many years old"...see above for more clarification

i do think its sorta funny that we suppose some things can take thousands or millions of years to decay yet we wont ever really be able to truly verify that... we'll all be dead! but we do seem to be right about stuff (in the future) a lot of the time. for instance... im sure you already know this, but we were drawing skeletal molecules in chemistry for over a hundred years before we saw an actual molecule with a microscope and took a picture

i trust carbon dating. the general time scale for our planet seems pretty accurate to me. i wish i could find a good visual representation of the hadean era on youtube. its strange to me that people say they dont "believe" in certain science, as if any other explanations remotely come close to making sense. abiogenesis combined with evolution makes perfect sense to me.

i consider myself agnostic because i believe that god could very well exist but i think god would be something we couldnt fathom. imagine the power it took to "create" all the energy in the universe. god would be absolutely insane. he would be everything at once, and he sure as shyt wouldnt care if we were eating apples or knowing if our dikk was hanging out or not. god wouldnt even be a he - what would god have a dikk for?

a lot of jewish religion is just so clearly stolen taken borrowed from sumer/mesopotamia that anyone who's decently well read ought to be able to make the connection. gilgamesh is a fantastic story. you can read a summary on wikipedia if you want.

anyways sorry for the long rambling. i got these 250mg edibles and they get me going lmao

and interestingly they still dont completely understand electron orbitals they can only be sure of things "when" it is measured

but the truth is the electron inhabits a field but its absolute position is only known during measurement. The double slit experiment is a great place to contemplate what im saying (the idea of something not being known until its measured but the paradox is what is it before its measured?)

many of the questions in Quantum mechanics stem from this uncertainty.

i dont believe the time scales they say anymore because of things ive learned over the years. The most important facet of a scientist is the ability to falsify a claim. If you cannot falsify a claim it is probably conjecture at best. A great deal of studies currently are based on one time studies where noone funds reserach on replicating the study

as far as sumer/mesopotamia respectfully i disagree. Its one of those things where babylonian/persian captivity obscures some of the truth but it isnt a replacement for the truth

when you say "why would God have a dikk?" why would he say "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Male and female created he them"

implies the image of God is coitus...."A mist went up and watered the whole face of the ground...."

We are living in a world of illusion

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enjoy the edibles?

 

[MMS]

Why do you have people talking down on Jesus but don't dare fix their mouth against Buddha, Allah, Zeus, Baphomet, etc?

Must be hate.

where he goes noone truly wants to follow

but thats the paradox, because he walks

 

[Koichos]

god wouldnt even be a he - what would god have a dikk for?

when you say "why would God have a dikk?" why would he say "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Male and female created he them"

implies the image of God is coitus...."A mist went up and watered the whole face of the ground...."

We are living in a world of illusion

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The confusion is caused by imposing English grammatical rules onto Hebrew. In English it became ‘He’ because of the masculine form used, despite the fact that in Hebrew a statement couched in masculine terms is already ‘non-gender specific’. It would actually be more accurate to describe Hebrew’s two genders as ‘non-feminine’ and ‘feminine’.

‘He’ is neither male nor female, but Hebrew has no neuter gender; even if you wanted to say ‘It’ you would use the masculine form because the general rule is to use the male gender in any case where the subject is not known to be specifically female. Feminine forms are used for females and the use of masculine forms imply nothing about gender.

In the majority of cases there are no explicit pronouns referring to ‘Him’ in the Hebrew text, the gender being included in the conjugation of the verb (e.g. וַיֹּאֿמֶר ‘and he said’; ‘and she said’ would be וַתֹּאֿמֶר); but in the relatively uncommon cases where an actual pronoun is used, it is invariably הוּא which means ‘he’ and never הִיא which means ‘she’.

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

The main people that deny the legitimacy of the scriptures got a judgement coming. If I was an Edomite I wouldn’t want the word of God to be true either.

 

[Zime]

Aren’t you one of the prominent users here who promotes LGBT on here. Are you back to your religion now?

 

[levitate]

ive already shown that its not "sound science"

It is sound science. That’s the beauty of science - you can’t dismiss it just because its results don’t align with your beliefs. And again, the scientific method is significantly better than “it’s true because this book says it’s true”.

Furthermore, in addition to radiometric dating there are other methods that enable us to approximate the age of our solar system and the universe. Are you going to dismiss those as well cause they don’t align with your opinions?

and I've already indicated that the bible makes no mention of how old the earth is, only how many generations of man there are since Adam.

That’s…the same thing. Simple arithmetic allows you to add up the “generations of man”. Again, if you were familiar with the Bible you’d know that the names and years lived are written in explicit detail.

 

[ScoopNScore]

Why do you have people talking down on Jesus but don't dare fix their mouth against Buddha, Allah, Zeus, Baphomet, etc?

Must be hate.

People checking for Zeus like tha ? Haven't even thought of him since I whupped his ass in God of War 2

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]