How come its ok for homosexuals to push their beliefs on you but religions can't?

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Sly, you're pro-gay marriage and you don't even realize it. All gays want is State marriage, which they currently don't have access to (civil unions don't give them the full rights that a marriage would.) This is totally separate from the issue of religious marriage, which has no connection to the law, and gays have no quarrel with religious marriage. Religious institutions will still have the right to refuse to marry gay couples. Basically, the stuff in bold is exactly what the gay populations wants/is trying to get across.

Right now, the situation is the opposite, where religious people are trying to inject religion into state marriage, which is inherently secular, in an attempt to stop gays from being able to have State marriages, yet when this is pointed out, it's twisted into looking like an attack on religion or religious rights, when it's simply pointing out the law. It's the secular concept of marriage that is actually under attack by religious people, not the other way around.

word yea this is the problem for me, no ones tellin christians that gays have the right to marry in their churches. another example of religious fools tryin to push their agenda on society. separation of church and state in this country is a fukkin joke
 

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didn't read the whole initial post but eye agree with the OP's sentiment,why do :wrist: get a pass..

FYI eye already know why,but eye wanna see everyone else's thought patterns..
 

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if you don't like this great country then you should leave it.

Marriage is not a religious institution, it's a legal one and ....


wait wtf am i doing responding to you fukin troll.

Honestly Sly it's like you don't even try anymore, you're just running through the motions.

Its a legal agreement between a man and a woman
 

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Its a legal agreement between a man and a woman

No it isn't fakkit and the constitution is to protect the rights of minorities not the majority. Marriage gives people a shytload of tax breaks and its discriminating against gays.

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Saw this on Facebook. I think it sums up your point Op

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The amount of hypocrisy spewed out of conservative mouths the last decade is mind numbing.

Screaming about the government should stay out of their lives and let them carry guns while openly lobbying for the government to stop people from marrying because they don't believe in it.

:rip: to society if these fukking lunatics get their way.
 

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here's the simple answer. religion is a bunch of :duck:

when people realize this, the country will be a lot better. But thats not happening in my lifetime. Youre comparing a legal matter to a bunch of bullshyt written by goat-herders 3000 years ago. what is the debate exactly?

The majority of this country is Christian and yet all I hear out of their mouths is that they're (you're) being persecuted. You're not, get over yourselves.

In 3000 years this legal matter you speak of will just be "a bunch of bullshyt written by politicians" so why do you downplay their beliefs and act like somehow yours are more valid.

For the record I'm not religious. Just against people passing judgment on others.
 

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Sly, you're pro-gay marriage and you don't even realize it. All gays want is State marriage, which they currently don't have access to (civil unions don't give them the full rights that a marriage would.) This is totally separate from the issue of religious marriage, which has no connection to the law, and gays have no quarrel with religious marriage. Religious institutions will still have the right to refuse to marry gay couples. Basically, the stuff in bold is exactly what the gay populations wants/is trying to get across.

Right now, the situation is the opposite, where religious people are trying to inject religion into state marriage, which is inherently secular, in an attempt to stop gays from being able to have State marriages, yet when this is pointed out, it's twisted into looking like an attack on religion or religious rights, when it's simply pointing out the law. It's the secular concept of marriage that is actually under attack by religious people, not the other way around.
actually you do have a lot of gays upset about churches not marrying them. and they have and will continue to attempt to sue. on what grounds? the grounds that churches are exempt from taxes as non profits.

just google gays trying to sue churches and see what pops up.

and further proof the agenda is coming to a church near you.

Proposed Law Would Force Churches to Host Gay Weddings | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

Proposed Law Would Force Churches to Host Gay Weddings -april 23, 2012

Religious liberty groups are blasting a proposed ordinance that would force churches in Hutchinson, Kan. to rent their facilities for gay weddings and gay parties.
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The Hutchinson City Council will consider adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the protected classes in the city’s human relations code. They are expected to vote on the changes next month.
According to the Hutchinson Human Relations Commission, churches that rent out their buildings to the general public would not be allowed to discriminate “against a gay couple who want to rent the building for a party.”
Meryl Dye, a spokesperson for the Human Relations Commission confirmed to Fox News that churches would be subjected to portions of the proposed law.
“They would not be able to discriminate against gay and lesbian or transgender individuals,” Dye said.
“That type of protection parallels to what you find in race discrimination. If a church provides lodging or rents a facility they could not discriminate based on race. It’s along that kind of thinking.”
Matthew Staver, chairman of the Liberty Counsel Action, told Fox News the proposed law is “un-American.”
“It is a collision course between religious freedom and the LGBT agenda,” Staver said. “This proposed legislation will ultimately override the religious freedom that is protected under the First Amendment.”
He argued that churches cannot be forced by the government to set aside their religious convictions and their mission. And, he warned, some churches could even be forced to rent their buildings for drag parties.
“What we are ultimately going to see is churches forced to confront this law, forced to do things and allow their facilities to be used by people and for events that diametrically undercut the mission of the church,” he said.
Robert Noland, of the Kansas Family Policy Council, said the law would extend well beyond allowing access for gay weddings.
“They (churches) could not deny renting space to a gay couple if they want to have a party,” he told Fox News. “This is just another example of government creating a law imposing upon the freedom of religion and basically telling churches what they can and can’t do.”
So what could happen to churches in Hutchinson that refuse to accommodate gay parties or weddings?

“Unless the city council includes an exemption for churches, it would generate a discrimination complaint for the gay couple and it would be investigated,” Dye told Fox News. She said any churches found guilty of violating the law could be subjected to fines or other penalties.
Gary Ridge, an associate pastor of Westside Baptist Church, told Fox News their congregation would not comply with the proposed law should it pass. He said their church would refuse to host either gay weddings or parties – even if it meant a possible investigation or fines.
“We apply the Bible to our lives,” he said. “When there is a contradiction between what the city council asks and what the Bible says, we are going to follow the Bible.”
“This is an opportunity for the LGBT community to cram their belief system down on our community,” Ridge said. “It may look like a small step, but it’s not the end. Before you know it they will be able to shut down churches for preaching Romans 1:26-27. We’ll be sued for refusing to have homosexual weddings.”
Ridge said Hutchinson is a conservative city, a part of the Bible Belt – and he blamed the controversy on outsiders.
“This is part of a bigger desire to have their lifestyle condoned and accepted,” he said. “We don’t condone their activity.”
The Hutchinson measure would also have a major impact on private businesses and landlords. Restaurants, bars and retail shops would be required to provide special bathrooms for individuals who may have male body parts but identify as a female.
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actually you do have a lot of gays upset about churches not marrying them. and they have and will continue to attempt to sue. on what grounds? the grounds that churches are exempt from taxes as non profits.

just google gays trying to sue churches and see what pops up.

and further proof the agenda is coming to a church near you.

Proposed Law Would Force Churches to Host Gay Weddings | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes


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Yeah, but that's on the churches, not on the homosexuals. You can't reap the government benefits of being a "public" institution and then not follow the public law when it comes to discrimination. Churches have been getting away with hypocrisy on that front for a long time, and using it to make money. There's a simple solution to the problem- the churches should stop flip-flopping and pick a side, as they can't have it both ways.

It's just like back when the Mormon Church held the official religious doctrine that Black people were inferior and discriminated against them, but still tried to hold tax exempt status and eat off those gov. benefits. That's hypocrisy.
 

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Gay marriage...why is it almost a criminal act with liberals in media and liberal politicians that if you happen to feel that a marriage is between a man and a woman you are labeled a bigot and you must accept this so called "right" that a minority of people can hijack a custom that has already been established as simply being between a man and a woman?

Yet these same people want religious people to keep their beliefs to themselves and not preach it and just keep quiet about their opinions on pre-marital sex and violence or whatever...

it sounds hypocritical to me...your forcing your belief on everyone else...

you guys know me...I keep it simple I don't care what you do as long as you don't hurt other people or take away their freedoms...so go smoke weed...go insert inanimate objects in your rectum...i don't give a shyt just don't let it affect me in any way and i'd prefer not to even be witness to the latter.

the whole thing is ridiculous anyway because state marriage is not the same as marriage done in a church and gay marriage will never be accepted in any church so why can't gays just accept the state marriage and have it be called gay marriage or civil unions and they will get the same tax rights.

Religious people have to understand gay people will exist and form relationships just like straight people some will last a lifetime and others will be flings...except it will be more disgusting and more prone to aids...big whoop

gay people need to understand that a lot of people don't like the act of homosexuality and don't want what they describe as a lifelong union to be in the same category as gay people having the same unions...

in reality both sides need to grow up and realze they don't have to cross paths...even if you don't like the act ...if its two adults you can't do anything about it they can fornicate how they like and its their business...

gay people would be so much more successful if they respected others religious beliefs and make campaigns in states to recognize civil unions and it would be much better PR for them...

Its alll mental. They can only do it if you let them. Im not letting 1 queen guilt me into thinking that getting your culo blasted and dressing up like a damn woman is normal. :russ:
 

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actually you do have a lot of gays upset about churches not marrying them. and they have and will continue to attempt to sue. on what grounds? the grounds that churches are exempt from taxes as non profits.

just google gays trying to sue churches and see what pops up.

and further proof the agenda is coming to a church near you.

Proposed Law Would Force Churches to Host Gay Weddings | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes


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Typical. They want to make their unions a symbolic spit in the face to God. Its so demonic.
 

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actually you do have a lot of gays upset about churches not marrying them. and they have and will continue to attempt to sue. on what grounds? the grounds that churches are exempt from taxes as non profits.

just google gays trying to sue churches and see what pops up.

and further proof the agenda is coming to a church near you.

Proposed Law Would Force Churches to Host Gay Weddings | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes


:what:

Welcome to the liberal paradise. No churches and gay bars everywhere. So demonic....
 

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gay people need to understand that a lot of people don't like the act of homosexuality and don't want what they describe as a lifelong union to be in the same category as gay people having the same unions...

in reality both sides need to grow up and realze they don't have to cross paths...even if you don't like the act ...if its two adults you can't do anything about it they can fornicate how they like and its their business...

gay people would be so much more successful if they respected others religious beliefs and make campaigns in states to recognize civil unions and it would be much better PR for them...


You can't even believe what you're typing. :weirdo:
 
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