How Chicago Became ‘Chiraq’

[Matt504]

A better solution would be to get tougher on gangs and gang members. Treat them like terrorists, because they are technically domestic terrorists. Gang affiliation should be treated as harshly as terrorist organization affiliation

won't work but that's exactly what's coming to "urban" areas across America.

 

[TGainz]

first time I heard the term "chiraq" I was wit some guys from Foster Park back in '09

 

[Bolzmark]

So what rap albums were hot in the streets in 1974, when Chicago had a record number 970 murders, over double the 415 they had in 2013?

You have to understand that this type of logic interferes with the plan to use rap music as the scapegoat. One might question is there any real parenting going on here, since so many of these shooters and victims appear to be children. But criticizing parents? Oh hellz no. Most rappers are young black men so they are such an easy target. Get outta here with that logic bullsh!t.

 

[CrimsonTider]

You have to understand that this type of logic interferes with the plan to use rap music as the scapegoat. One might question is there any real parenting going on here, since so many of these shooters and victims appear to be children. But criticizing parents? Oh hellz no. Most rappers are young black men so they are such an easy target. Get outta here with that logic bullsh!t.

Blaming the parents misses the point as well

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Blaming the parents misses the point as well

what is the point?

 

[CrimsonTider]

what is the point?

It goes far beyond parents

The parents corn from the same system of ignorance as the kids

 

[Black Magisterialness]

It goes far beyond parents

The parents corn from the same system of ignorance as the kids

truth, but this shows what happens when you remove citizens from central city. Black folks been getting priced out to the south side for decades, it even worse not with the West being gentrified and the north becoming even more segregated.

 

[Buddy]

I'll agree that music and "bad parenting" aren't the cause of the violence seen in Chicago, but that's not to say that they don't contribute to the atmosphere. The truth is, as someone else mentioned earlier, that Chicago has always had a history of violence... but what has this violence primarily stemmed from?: Illegal substances. Just as Al Capone and the like murdered for liquor turf in the 20's the same could be said of today's Chicago youth. What's worse for them is that what would have been crime families have broken down into gangs which have broken down into 'sets', someone living across the street can easily be antagonized and perceived as the enemy or a threat. Worst of all, our government flat out allowed the Sinaloa Cartel to pump 80% of the drugs into Chicago for a DECADE (2002-2012) and never stopped arresting the citizens for possession or intent to sell. Black males are now stripped of a chance at employment (92% unemployment for teens) kicked back out into the streets, and left to take on the unimaginable to survive. All these factors and more have turned Chicago into America's premiere nightmare.

I plan on making a video on this very topic later, but for now I wish to leave you all with this one. The murder problem in 'Chiraq' is a lot deeper than just saying, "Hey guys why don't you knock it off." This is the result of systemic racism and policies via the war on drugs/criminal justice system. This in large part is why I'm working so hard to finally start a mass demonstration. Until we point out to the WORLD where the trail of blood begins, we will never see change. July 5th is Incarceration Day. Join me and others in the movement:

 

[superunknown23]

start @ 5:25

 

[RAX 010]

Guns dont kill people....

But people trapped in a socioeconomic matrix ...do

 

[Mr swag]

I'm glad they're highlighting that this is no new problem.
I'm fine with stricter gun laws but at the sametime I think what jail time and the resulting lack of opportunities could do to some young banger in the future should he
actually live that long and turn his life around.

Exactly! Everyone wants to talk about HOW they are killing each other but not WHY

 

[Bawon Samedi]

The solution is to arm everyone, because the more people with guns the less crime[/QUOTE]
This has also been proven by statistics.

 

[the cac mamba]

McCarthy noted that Chicago cops have seized 1,500 illegal guns so far this year, but the people caught with the weapons are all too often back on the street all too soon.

“It’s like running on a hamster wheel,” McCarthy said of the effort to grapple with the problem. “We’re drinking from a fire hose, seizing these guns, and people are back out on the street. They’re not learning that carrying a firearm is going to have a serious impact on their lives.”

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@kermit da hustla i think you touched on this with a thread

and i think this is right. they gotta find some way to deter people from carryin

i mean shyt, that dude who killed the girl who spoke at obamas thing got caught with a gun but was out in 2 months

isnt it in NY u get 3 years?

 

[Primetime21]

I'll agree that music and "bad parenting" aren't the cause of the violence seen in Chicago, but that's not to say that they don't contribute to the atmosphere. The truth is, as someone else mentioned earlier, that Chicago has always had a history of violence... but what has this violence primarily stemmed from?: Illegal substances. Just as Al Capone and the like murdered for liquor turf in the 20's the same could be said of today's Chicago youth. What's worse for them is that what would have been crime families have broken down into gangs which have broken down into 'sets', someone living across the street can easily be antagonized and perceived as the enemy or a threat. Worst of all, our government flat out allowed the Sinaloa Cartel to pump 80% of the drugs into Chicago for a DECADE (2002-2012) and never stopped arresting the citizens for possession or intent to sell. Black males are now stripped of a chance at employment (92% unemployment for teens) kicked back out into the streets, and left to take on the unimaginable to survive. All these factors and more have turned Chicago into America's premiere nightmare.

I plan on making a video on this very topic later, but for now I wish to leave you all with this one. The murder problem in 'Chiraq' is a lot deeper than just saying, "Hey guys why don't you knock it off." This is the result of systemic racism and policies via the war on drugs/criminal justice system. This in large part is why I'm working so hard to finally start a mass demonstration. Until we point out to the WORLD where the trail of blood begins, we will never see change. July 5th is Incarceration Day. Join me and others in the movement:

I hope you'll be posting more on this site outside of this thread

 

[kermit da hustla]

@kermit da hustla i think you touched on this with a thread

and i think this is right. they gotta find some way to deter people from carryin

i mean shyt, that dude who killed the girl who spoke at obamas thing got caught with a gun but was out in 2 months

isnt it in NY u get 3 years?

I think it's 2 years in New York. And stats show a direct causal effect on gun crime thanks to the mandatory minimum in New York for illegal possession. And that's just 2 years. I think it should be at least a 10 year mandatory sentence in Chicago. These people are not carrying guns for no other reason than to kill black people.