How can you claim to be against white supremacy, but still perpetuate its legacy?

[MeachTheMonster]

rappers told nikkas to get 22 inch rims, nikkas went out and bought 22 inch rims.

What nikkas?

The majority of black people I see ride cars with regular wheels

rappers told nikkas to drink promethazine, nikkas went out and started drinking lean

You drink that shyt?

I don't.

rappers called women "thots," now you nikkas callin women thots

Slang terms have changed over time with and without rap music.

You don't think a guy can call a chick a thot, but still to get a degree/responsible livelihood and do well for himself?

rappers told nikkas to "fukk up some commas," on bullshyt, nikkas went out and fukked they money on bullshyt

Who are these nikkas you speak of?

I see "nikkas" walking there kids to school, going to work, taking them to football practice, ect.

rappers told nikkas to get on molly, now nikkas cant get enough of them pills

You high right now breh?

rappers told nikkas to buy louis, gucci, versace, so nikkas went out and bought that shyt

Garth brooks said wear Levi's.

Who should I listen to

rappers told nikkas to buy bape, redmonkey, lrg, so nikkas went out and bought that shyt

What kind of shirt you got on breh?

i mean, i'm tired of this stupid ass debate. rap is INFLUENTIAL. if the hottest rappers were talkin bout building businesses, steady families, becoming doctors, lawyers, dentist, etc--nikkas would go out and do that shyt too. unfortunately, we dont control the artform, so we're being persuaded to be "trap lords" and stick up kids

Nobody said its not influential.

What is, said is that it doesn't create trap lords and stick up kids. Those exist with or without rap music.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

whites are 5-6x the size of blacks, of course we aren't the predominant listeners. whites aren't so adversely affected because they come from intact patriarchies, instead of broken communities that lack opportunity. when billy hears about trapping and selling drugs, he actually has a father or uncle that can employ him, and deter him from criminality. when chad starts developing drug habits, he has family that will put in him rehab for rehabilitation--plus, he'll get cut off the inheritance if he doesn't clean up.

there is no structure in the black community. there's no safety net or second chances. so for all the impressionable youth, without fathers or mentors, they look towards a lot of these rappers for a positive male identity.

Yup, and then on to the "blame the single mother" narrative

Its single mothers, and rap music that cause all the ails in the black community

 

[Barnett114]

rappers told nikkas to get 22 inch rims, nikkas went out and bought 22 inch rims.

rappers told nikkas to drink promethazine, nikkas went out and started drinking lean

rappers called women "thots," now you nikkas callin women thots

rappers told nikkas to "fukk up some commas," on bullshyt, nikkas went out and fukked they money on bullshyt

rappers told nikkas to get on molly, now nikkas cant get enough of them pills

rappers told nikkas to buy louis, gucci, versace, so nikkas went out and bought that shyt

rappers told nikkas to buy bape, redmonkey, lrg, so nikkas went out and bought that shyt



i mean, i'm tired of this stupid ass debate. rap is INFLUENTIAL. if the hottest rappers were talkin bout building businesses, steady families, becoming doctors, lawyers, dentist, etc--nikkas would go out and do that shyt too. unfortunately, we dont control the artform, so we're being persuaded to be "trap lords" and stick up kids

We've been using thot here in Chicago for a long time, we created it. Just another word for whore

How many people actually have 22 in rims?

Commas is blowing money, How many people have money to black

Wasn't Bay Area rappers like Mac Dre off the molly before it went mainstream? How did they find out how to use. People in my hood were off pills before in became mainstream too.

How many people are actually wearing the clothes talked about in mass numbers?

Weren't Houston dudes drinking lean before everyone? How many people actually have 60 dollars an ounce to drink lean?

Black people have been buying their self esteem since before music. Even Booker T Washington talked about blacks spending money on horse and carriages spending half of their weekly pay checks

What popular art form white or black doesn't talk about filth? Sex and violence sells, that's why it's what you see on TV.

 

[marcuz]

Ole,what are other going to think about us ass dudes. They were going to think what they thought regardless. You think if it wasn't music it wouldn't been something else? Come on dude. You still didn't answer my question how are y'all so special? You never listened to rap, good parents, what? Share with us the special sauce to make y'all soo above it but apparently no one else can be. You don't know no powerful Jews nikka stop sucking off cats you don't even know. Wish y'all would stop that shyt. Always romanticizing the next group. Guess good parents don't help or anything like that but what the fukk do I or others on here know since we listen to the same music but aren't all fukked up.

not true, representation matters and we're being poorly represented by a lot of these rappers. how am i "romancitizing jews" by acknowledging they control the artform? pick the head of any distribution company and i bet it's a fukkin jew.

 

[marcuz]

Yup, and then on to the "blame the single mother" narrative

Its single mothers, and rap music that cause all the ails in the black community

so let me get this straight, by acknowledging broken homes and lack of fathers/mentors adversely affects kids (of ANY race), i'm blaming single mothers?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

"The jews are coming"

These dudes don't understand how much they sound like racist white wing idiots

 

[MeachTheMonster]

so let me get this straight, by acknowledging broken homes and lack of fathers/mentors adversely affects kids (of ANY race), i'm blaming single mothers?

By pretending its some epidemic that only affects black single mothers you are.

 

[PhonZhi]

i really got you mad and frustrated dont i

Im talking about you co signing this dikkhead. When you co sign him you co sign that bullshyt he kicking that's what the fukk I'm talking about or has the rap fukked your brain up? You cats always like running with the equivalent of what about the kids too I see. Ole,what are other going to think about us ass dudes. They were going to think what they thought regardless. You think if it wasn't music it wouldn't been something else? Come on dude. You still didn't answer my question how are y'all so special? You never listened to rap, good parents, what? Share with us the special sauce to make y'all soo above it but apparently no one else can be. You don't know no powerful Jews nikka stop sucking off cats you don't even know. Wish y'all would stop that shyt. Always romanticizing the next group. Guess good parents don't help or anything like that but what the fukk do I or others on here know since we listen to the same music but aren't all fukked up.

I never said it has no influence scarecrow but how you make it seem its as if dudes listen to the pied piper and listen to a clipse tracks and start slanging on the block the next day.

Im not a cornerback there is no backpedal. Only thing real is you trolling between delivery jobs.

 

[PhonZhi]

@philmonroe @MeachTheMonster @Barnett114 getn that work in this thread

 

[Barnett114]

Black Metropolis talked about black people from 1919-1945 and was published in 1945 and it outlined the materialism, denigrating women, etc.

It was the poorer blacks that have had these problems.

Black Metropolis

 

[PhonZhi]

Sorry brehs but there's NOTHING yall can say to convince anybody with common sense that hiphop culture has zero influence. Yall are really making yallselves look like idiots.

 

[PhonZhi]

Black Metropolis talked about black people from 1919-1945 and was published in 1945 and it outlined the materialism, denigrating women, etc.

It was the poorer blacks that have had these problems.

Black Metropolis

now you're posting links. I thought that was frowned upon

 

[marcuz]

We've been using thot here in Chicago for a long time, we created it. Just another word for whore

you literally can't find any trace of the word thot being used before 2013. but suddenly its the premier word for whore, why? because rappers made it hot.

How many people actually have 22 in rims?

now? not many. the trend is over. the guys who had rappers promote that shyt already made their money and moved onto the next big scheme. but what about all the blacks who had to have them 10 yrs ago?

Commas is blowing money, How many people have money to black

exactly. hiphop has always been about promoting consumerism over building.

Wasn't Bay Area rappers like Mac Dre off the molly before it went mainstream? How did they find out how to use. People in my hood were off pills before in became mainstream too.

why is it so hard for y'all to admit rap is influential? soon as rappers started popularizing molly, that's when it became acceptable. i was doing the shyt in 2002, and i remember when blacks called it a cac drug.

How many people are actually wearing the clothes talked about in mass numbers?

enough

Weren't Houston dudes drinking lean before everyone? How many people actually have 60 dollars an ounce to drink lean?

all you're doing is proving my point. lean sipping was popular in the rap culture in texas, so they did it. once the more rappers started talking about it nationally, it became more popular of a drug to abuse. alot of people have the money to drink it, nikkas aint all out here penniless. i see empty promethazine bottles all over LA.

What popular art form white or black doesn't talk about filth? Sex and violence sells, that's why it's what you see on TV.

oh word? name me another genre of music which lyrics usually consist of killing members of their own race, selling drugs, and fukking whores

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Black Metropolis talked about black people from 1919-1945 and was published in 1945 and it outlined the materialism, denigrating women, etc.

It was the poorer blacks that have had these problems.

Black Metropolis

Nah.

Rap music told them to waist money on crap......

Oh wait...rap music didnt exist yet

 

[PhonZhi]

Nobody said its not influential.

What is, said is that it doesn't create trap lords and stick up kids. Those exist with or without rap music.

the backpedaling