How can you claim to be against white supremacy, but still perpetuate its legacy?

[PhonZhi]

What black person says this

Slavery and the continued oppression afterwards to keep us as 2nd class citizens is the genesis our problems

I rarely see threads on slavery period. THATS what we need to be more educated on.

1) how slavery is STILL affecting us today in 2015

&

2) the economic impact that slavery had in making Amerikkka what it is today. I doubt the average black person looks at slavery from a business/money-making standpoint.

We need to become more aware and knowledgeable of the past. I am a result of this. The more i study the past and gain knowledge, the more "proud" i become in being black. The prouder i become in being black, the more i see things differently. When u look in the past it makes u realize why things are the way they are today.

If black ppl were truly "aware" of the past, there's no way we would be doing things like celebrating Thanksgiving , July 4th,etc. Thats just an example of how blind we currently are.

We have been brainwashed and mentally conditioned for 400+ years now. Yall think im blaming all the worlds problems on rap. No, 1st thats stupid. 2nd, us dancing and singing along to music that promotes our own genocide is a byproduct of the brainwashing of the black race. We think so lowly of ourselves that we find "entertainment" in music that degrades us. Again, the more aware i become the more i find this music

This is exactly why the white man purposely alters and hides the past. They want us to continue thinking lowly of ourselves. They dont want us gaining pride and uniting. They dont want us practicing group economics and circulating our money amongst ourselves. This is why they push sounds & images promoting and glorifying "shoot and kill that n1kka" & "spend spend spend". This is not a "conspiracy". Take a look in the past and you'll see plain as day that brainwashing and the distortion of the black image has been an effective tool for the white man for a very long time.

@THEREALBRAND the coli would rather hear why you dont think slavery still affects black people today or why you dont think that brainwashing tactics were used. You've posted twice. Both posts have been about an anonymous poster name PhonZhi. I have no idea who you are. So answer my above questions please. I would love to hear your opinion on something other than me. Its kinda weird having somebody who you've never even acknowledged talk about you so much. Lets hear you talk about something else.

 

[marcuz]

On the first point, King Louie talked about the word's origin in a DJ Vlad interview. Two the second point, yes, like most of our slang, it has been shared through music.

once more, i dont know what you're arguing. THOT wasn't popular until rap made it popular. most nikkas use the word thot because they heard it in a song, not because they lived in chicago.

You that that's just your hood then bring up California when you all are less than 10% of blacks in the US.

not sure what you meant with this sentence, but plenty of blacks bought rims. i really dont see the point in debating some shyt that's fact.

Problem is there would still be buying their self esteem like they've always had even before the music.

and once again, i wouldn't mind that if they were consuming from black owned businesses.

Yet I know people who have before hand.

Californian blacks are less than 10% of blacks in America, y'all ain't the world.

i know people who used E before rap as well, so what? i'm talking about the collective, not individuals. and collectively speaking, molly/ecstasy didn't become accepted until it was promoted in rap.

The trillion dollar spending power also includes mortgages, student loans, bills, and necessities, etc

i wasn't talking about the 1.1 trillion dollar spending power. i'm talking about the 500+ billion dollar BUYING power that goes to depreciating assets.

You said nikkas are doing it yet now it isn't most. nikkas ain't everyone and don't represent black people.

i never said most blacks are doing lean. i said MOST LEAN drinkers wouldn't be doing it, if it wasn't promoted in hiphop

Black Sabbath - Snow Blind
Megadeth - Use The Man
Alice In Chains - Hate to Feel
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Motorhead - White Line Fever
Queensryche - The Needle Lies
Neil Young -Needle And Damidge Done
Guns N' Roses - Mr. Brownstone
Ozzy - Suicide Solution
Alice In Chains - Use Me
TON - White Slavery
Savatage - 'Agony and Ecstasy't
Chine White - Chine White
WASP - Cocain Cowboys

A Lesson in Violence - Exodus
Let Us Slay - Gwar
Good Mourning/Black Friday - Megadeth
Dead Skin Mask - Slayer
213 - Slayer
Psychopathy Red - Slayer
Show No Mercy - Slayer
Murder Fantasies - Kreator
Kill Again - Slayer
Death By Hanging - Heathen
Beyond the Pale - Exodus
The Ballad of Leonard and Charles - Exodus
Class Dismissed (A Hate Primer) - Exodus
.44 Magnum Opus - Exodus
Mad Butcher - Destruction
Angel of Death - Slayer
Murders In The Rue Morgue - Iron Maiden
The Ripper - Judas Priest
Loved To Death - Megadeth
Holy Wars/The Punishment Due - Megadeth

bruh, come on you pulled most of ya list from:

What are some metal songs about killing someone?

and

Metal songs about drug - Metal Storm


googling songs about killing and cocaine use aint refuting shyt. we both know they aint making songs where the central theme is "kill my fellow white man." only rappers constantly promote lyrics about killing "other nikkas"

 

[PhonZhi]

Has there been a concerted effort to demonize black people through popular media images? Yes

Is EVERY case of a 2chainz or chief keef a case of some conspiracy to create litle black drug dealers? No

Do 2chainz and chief Keef create little black drug dealers? No

And this right here is why we are where we're at. We dont think that these "concerted efforts" still exist today. Yall see this??? Meach thinks this "concerted effort" no longer exists. He thinks the black image is no longer under attack. He thinks that 90% black music being negative is just a "conspiracy". He doesn't think the INTENTIONAL OPPRESSION of the black race is still happening. He thinks it ended with slavery. He doesn't think brainwashing techniques are still being applied. He thinks they disappeared. This right here is why we aren't mentally prepared to fight white supremacy............we dont even know it exists

 

[marcuz]

Yes the debate of "race" in America is and always has been about appearance. Not ancestry.

i cant speak for others, but that's not the debate i make. if you're half european, you are no longer black. simple as that. its not some tit for tat argument that revolves around a persons skin color.

So white people influnced "black culture"?

I thought you said that doesn't happen?

replace "influenced" with "usurped," and hell yeah they did

 

[PhonZhi]

breh is @Barnett114 arguing that the word "thot" was popular nationwide before rap?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

And this right here is why we are where we're at. We dont think that these "concerted efforts" still exist today. Yall see this??? Meach thinks this "concerted effort" no longer exists. He thinks the black image is no longer under attack. He thinks that 90% black music being negative is just a "conspiracy". He doesn't think the INTENTIONAL OPPRESSION of the black race is still happening. He thinks it ended with slavery. He doesn't think brainwashing techniques are still being applied. He thinks they disappeared. This right here is why we aren't mentally prepared to fight white supremacy............we dont even know it exists

I never said it doesn't exist today.

And 90% of black music isn't negative.

You made that up.

I thought you were leaving

 

[MeachTheMonster]

i cant speak for others, but that's not the debate i make. if you're half european, you are no longer black. simple as that. its not some tit for tat argument that revolves around a persons skin color.



replace "influenced" with "usurped," and hell yeah they did

So you believe in the 51% rule?

 

[Barnett114]

bruh, come on you pulled most of ya list from:

What are some metal songs about killing someone?

and

Metal songs about drug - Metal Storm


googling songs about killing and cocaine use aint refuting shyt. we both know they aint making songs where the central theme is "kill my fellow white man." only rappers constantly promote lyrics about killing "other nikkas"

You asked for a list of songs and you got it Now you're talking about where I got the list.

 

[marcuz]

So you believe in the 51% rule?

no, you're still half white. the most i'm willing to expect is biracial + black, and i really don't want to accept that either

 

[PhonZhi]

I never said it doesn't exist today.

And 90% of black music isn't negative.

You made that up.

I thought you were leaving

so the intentional demonization of the black image through media is still happening in 2015. You acknowledge this. Ok. Im glad you aren't that dumb to think this was a "conspiracy" like @philmonroe @Barnett114 & @THEREALBRAND
Ive shut your own thread down enough here. Stop spreading lies to the people. Ill be there every time to shut it down.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

no, you're still half white. the most i'm willing to expect is biracial + black, and i really don't want to accept that either

So 75% rule?

What about 74%?

And how do you determine someone's percentage?

 

[PhonZhi]

You asked for a list of songs and you got it Now you're talking about where I got the list.

according to @THEREALBRAND you cant use lists and youtube vids to support your case. @THEREALBRAND what do you think about this

 

[MeachTheMonster]

so the intentional demonization of the black image through media is still happening in 2015. You acknowledge this. Ok. Im glad you aren't that dumb to think this was a "conspiracy" like @philmonroe @Barnett114 & @THEREALBRAND
Ive shut your own thread down enough here. Stop spreading lies to the people. Ill be there every time to shut it down.

Pay attention, this thread is about that very thing.

All the concepts in the OP are examples of the propaganda.

You and @marcuz came in repeating the same propaganda. If anything you've validated the thread.

 

[marcuz]

You asked for a list of songs and you got it Now you're talking about where I got the list.

because the list is completely disingenuous you have NEVER personally heard a song by a white artist where it's about killing other whites--NOT listing songs about fukking murder, big difference. you also wont hear "white songs" that portray a lifestyle being built off selling drugs.

meanwhile, every other rap song is "who dat nikka, shoot dat nikka, kill dat nikka / sell drugs to his kids, shoot his momma in the wig" come on now. make an honest debate. don't just google "im right, you're wrong.com" to come up with a rebuttal

 

[marcuz]

give me the white equivalent of this song @Barnett114