How Can We SOLVE Gang Violence? (Do We NEED More Mentors & Programs?)

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What's the point of working hard when I can just go work for that nikka with the big ass chain and benz down the street and make more than my parents, he didn't even graduate high school.

what's the point of going to college when you can go work for the nikka with the big ass chain?

believe it or not, there are drug dealers in inner cities making more than college graduates, there are million dollar dope boys quiet as kept in Black communities all over America, the point of working hard is being able to earn money without the constant fear and paranoia of someone trying to murder you or take away your freedom, for many in inner city communities, they don't have the option to work hard because many of them can't get jobs so they're forced into a life of crime as a means of survival, not because they want a chain and Tru Religion jeans.

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Great discussion.... All i got to contribute is this, White Supremacy is the disease and Gangster Rap,Broken Family structure,Cop brutality,Mass Incarceration,Medical Apartheid,etc are the symptoms. If you want to get rid of the symptoms address the disease.
How can we move on to uplift ourselves? Yes, those our contributing factors, but we need to begin the reconstruction phase.
 

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How can we move on to uplift ourselves? Yes, those our contributing factors, but we need to begin the reconstruction phase.

you can't reconstruct a burned house that's still on fire, the fire must be extinguished before the "reconstruction phase"
 
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Nations need to be rebuilt and based on what they started as.
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Vice lord INC...etc...bring it back. Y'all suburbrehs stay out of this, this convo ain't for you unless you're trying to help. Canadabrehs, too.
 
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what's the point of going to college when you can go work for the nikka with the big ass chain?

believe it or not, there are drug dealers in inner cities making more than college graduates, there are million dollar dope boys quiet as kept in Black communities all over America, the point of working hard is being able to earn money without the constant fear and paranoia of someone trying to murder you or take away your freedom, for many in inner city communities, they don't have the option to work hard because many of them can't get jobs so they're forced into a life of crime as a means of survival, not because they want a chain and Tru Religion jeans.

:francis:

30-50/hr is a lot to earn without the likelihood of being shot or arrested. Did you watch A Bronx Tale, pretty much proves my point. Dudes father couldn't control his child because he was busy driving buses all day for peanuts and his new daddy was the local mob boss. Sonny not being a selfish prick pretty much saved that child's life but if you notice, he was the only decent cat of his crew.
 

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How can we move on to uplift ourselves? Yes, those our contributing factors, but we need to begin the reconstruction phase.
Group Economics and have a race first agenda and do for self.Basically what booker t emphasized mixed with a bit of Garvey. If you take away gangster rap something else will come along to replace it. Instead of tearing infrastructures down we can build them. The Italians didn't stop making gangster movies. We can capitalized off of it but we much express a disdain for that lifestyle and show and teach our youth group economics and do for self.
 

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Great discussion.... All i got to contribute is this, White Supremacy is the disease and Gangster Rap,Broken Family structure,Cop brutality,Mass Incarceration,Medical Apartheid,etc are the symptoms. If you want to get rid of the symptoms address the disease.
where's the Lil Wayne, Chief Keef, Future and Young Thugs songs addressing White Supremacy, its affects and how to combat it?:lupe:

Forreal, I get what you are saying and i agree 1000000% but whats' being made "cool" by these HIGHLY INFLUENTIAL public figures (being in gangs, drug use, extreme materialism) is an ASSET TO WHITE SUPREMACY.

This is the #1 album right now. Aimed DIRECTLY at the black youth. Its an album titled Dirty Sprite. Im sure you know what dirty sprite glorifies:

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Most kids in the hood have never even heard the term "white supremacy". Thats my point. How can we address White Supremacy when we dont even know it exists?
 

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30-50/hr is a lot to earn without the likelihood of being shot or arrested. Did you watch A Bronx Tale, pretty much proves my point. Dudes father couldn't control his child because he was busy driving buses all day for peanuts and his new daddy was the local mob boss. Sonny not being a selfish prick pretty much saved that child's life but if you notice, he was the only decent cat of his crew.

if you're earning $30-50 an hour you get to be home all day to monitor your child?

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if you're earning $30-50 an hour you get to be home all day to monitor your child?

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The bus driver HAD to work all day because he was earning peanuts, and had to make sure he had enough to pay his bills. You won't have to if you earn that much.

You have to work 2-3 jobs to survive because those were NOT living wages.
 

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The bus driver HAD to work all day because he was earning peanuts, and had to make sure he had enough to pay his bills. You won't have to if you earn that much.

You have to work 2-3 jobs to survive because those were NOT living wages.

did the guy in the example you used work 2-3 jobs?

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I look at the gangs in Chicago, a lot of them were created in the 1960s.

The average unemployment rate for black neighborhoods in over 33%. People need money to live.

The police know about a lot of these gangs but because of various reasons, the police let them operate because they're getting money off of them.

The Mexican cartels also supply these gangs with drugs and guns.
 
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did the guy in the example you used work 2-3 jobs?

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He came home to see that his son was missing, because he was over at Sonny's. Watch the movie. :what: Look if you think two parents earning minimum wage can firmly place their kid on the right path, then good luck to you.:salute:
 

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where's the Lil Wayne, Chief Keef, Future and Young Thugs songs addressing White Supremacy, its affects and how to combat it?:lupe:

Forreal, I get what you are saying and i agree 1000000% but whats' being made "cool" by these HIGHLY INFLUENTIAL public figures (being in gangs, drug use, extreme materialism) is an ASSET TO WHITE SUPREMACY.

This is the #1 album right now. Aimed DIRECTLY at the black youth. Its an album titled Dirty Sprite. Im sure you know what dirty sprite glorifies:

Screen%20Shot%202015-07-24%20at%2011.01.44%20AM.png


Most kids in the hood have never even heard the term "white supremacy". Thats my point. How can we address White Supremacy when we dont even know it exists?
I ain't disagreeing with you we on the same page but to be honest in our field of work not everyone has to do the same thing to better the community. If you want to deal with the youth in the community and tell them about the negatives of living a gangster lifestyle go ahead.I'll deal with Booker T Washington Do for self philosophy. In my opinion though I think we can do like the Italians did with their gangster flicks and start showing these rappers/singers about how to own their own publishing and record labels and then push the gangster music mostly on the suburban white teens because you know they like gangster rap music too. That's what the Italians did to us with those gangster movies. Instead of taking a infrastructure down we can use and capitalize off it and sell it as pure entertainment. Like how whites do with movies and video games like Dexter, and Max Payne.
 
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