How can OKC get better?

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I was just using the Celts as an example .... Adams makes 25 million a year the jazz likely dont have enough cap space to take him and pg on even with the options ... and why would they take adams when they already have gobert who's a better player? but i get your point





a team like Sac could work too in theory .... they could take back Barnes and Buddy and Giles and a pick for example or Brooklyn for Caris Levert & Dinwiddie and picks ... but basically something along the lines of that since westbrick is pretty much going nowhere and you want to stretch out the talent for him
Its definitely going to be picks, someone eat all of Adams contact and PG.

OKC is 31 million in the red for 2019-2020 and that's only with 11 spots taken. They still got to get two more players. They have the worst cap management in the NBA. They also like GS are two time repeat offenders. They are going to get hammered by the LT
 

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The biggest issue is PG is in his prime with just two more years left on his deal which he will likely opt out looking for his last major contract.
 

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They were doing something right to be in the top 4 out west right up until PG hurt his shoulder before they started a 9 games in 14 days stretch that they struggled through because he missed a few games & wasn't right when he got back. Their wing rotation straight up died when Robes never made it back after a setback at the end of November & Abrines vanished (outside of 14 minutes in 2 random games) at the end of December.

They've had all of 2 passable wing players pretty much all year. One is a 20 year old second year player who showed improvement & one has had a bum shoulder since the end of February & banged it up again in the 2nd to last game of the season. Matthews went to the Pacers because he could start after the Dipo injury, Ellington went to the Pistons because his former agent is in the front office there, & the KIngs gave Brewer $2M for about 25 games. They never got wing help & it hurt them.

Grant had his best season, Ferg was more than solid & will get better, PG was having his best year until getting hurt, Schroder was fine until the break, & Adams was solid. Russy came in off a knee surgery & then sprained his ankle pretty badly, probably should have missed more time but didn't & struggled. The only other bench pieces were Morris who came in as a buyout after not playing for a while & Noel who was solid & I'll be bummed about losing.

They need to find some wings & a backup big (if they can't keep Noel) or 2, preferably some of those pickups can shoot, hope that Robes is still somewhat the same guy, & hope for better injury luck. The idea that they have to blow the whole thing up & start over is retarded despite how this series is turning out.
Bro, the west was neck and neck from 3-9 for most of the season. Not killing you guys but you gotta be realistic. This team never looked like contenders. They always looked like they will be competitive when PG was healthy but the issue is that you had limits to that.

My guess is OKC does nothing. They would love to move them but they just won't get an offer that moves the needle for them but if they are smart, they start the process ASAP. If you gotta trade PG13 straight up for value and maybe pay a team to take on Adams then do it. But Clay Bennett LT bill will be insane and this team ain't winning shyt with Westbrook on the decline.

This team has -31 million and a 50 million LT bill with just 11 players on the roster. The situation is extremely rigid right now. Cap wise, it's really bad. Westbrook's contract is Chernobyl
 

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Okc needs to see what they can.offer the lakers for lonzo, kuzma, and hart.. if they could offer them players for those 3, like expiring contracts, money, and spot up shooters, I think they would have enough to compete.

Their defense would improve, they could put russ at the 2 where he belongs, have legit scoring at the 4, and get depth at the 2 for russ.
 

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It wasn't Presti's call. He's not the owner. He works within the parameters ownership gives him.

The league went from having a 56-57 mil cap to now over $101 in a very short time span. Spending the luxury tax, as much as it is something teams wanna avoid, is inevitable for the most part. It wasn't like that earlier this decade.

Presti offers the deals all ownership can say is yes or no. And this team is constructed terribly. No way in hell they should have a larger payroll then GS or Hou with that level of talent
 

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IDK, rooting for OKC these past two years was like rooting for an abusive spouse to change. I said I was done if they lost in the first again so I’m done.

They have absolutely way too much talent to not be in the Rockets/Warriors category. It doesn’t matter what’s wrong at this point, because OKC will be stuck at this level until they can rebuild. It’s over.
 

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Agreed, I just don't see them improving outside of trading Adams and getting lucky there. They are not going to trade Westbrook or PG. Presti needs to do a better job at role players too. Morey is a good example of finding no ones and getting help. A Gerald Green type of player would be much more useful to OKC than whatever they have on the bench.
It's harder when you play no legit system. I won't blame Donovan either, when you play Westbrook, you run PnRs all day Sabo don't move off of the ball.

Houston plays a system which benefits certain players more than others. That's why Faried can ride the bench with Denver and Brooklyn and score 15/9 ASAP with the Rockets. They have a system that works. OKC really just ball watch and defend for the most part. It would got through lulls in the RS often, why think otherwise in the playoffs?
 

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It wasn't Presti's call. He's not the owner. He works within the parameters ownership gives him.

The league went from having a 56-57 mil cap to now over $101 in a very short time span. Spending the luxury tax, as much as it is something teams wanna avoid, is inevitable for the most part. It wasn't like that earlier this decade.
At that time no one could have predicted the cap would change in a positive and Clay Bennett didn't want to pay the bill at that time. He always regretted it since and will pay now but it's not worth it for this squad as it was for that Harden, Durant and Russ one with Ibaka
 

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  • Need better role players. Jerami Grant has blossomed into a player who will play over a decade in the Association and Schroeder is a guy who can start for another team. Outside of that, I don't like their bunch. I cringe when Adams gets the ball and has it more than three seconds in the post.
  • Better decision making. This goes on Russ and Paul George.
  • They don't have an offense that caters to the strengths of the roster.
  • Getting a time machine and finding Kevin Durant a heart when they were up 3-1.
 

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Okc needs to see what they can.offer the lakers for lonzo, kuzma, and hart.. if they could offer them players for those 3, like expiring contracts, money, and spot up shooters, I think they would have enough to compete.

Their defense would improve, they could put russ at the 2 where he belongs, have legit scoring at the 4, and get depth at the 2 for russ.
The Lakers won't and wouldn't have to trade Ball or Kuzma

I would offer Ingram, Wagner and a future 1st rounder for PG13 and Dennis Schroder.

If OKC wants more, then offer #11 as well.

You can't take Adams contract, you don't have enough money. I would only do this if I know for a fact, AD ain't coming.

OKC gets a lottery pick, a promising young player when healthy and they are completely cleared from the LT.
 

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Surround westbrook with competent shooters

Westbrook is still great, and passes the ball. When he passes it, he's gotta knock em down

Steven adams needs to be more motivated to get rebounds
PG13 needs to be healthy
 

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  • Need better role players. Jerami Grant has blossomed into a player who will play over a decade in the Association and Schroeder is a guy who can start for another team. Outside of that, I don't like their bunch. I cringe when Adams gets the ball and has it more than three seconds in the post.
  • Better decision making. This goes on Russ and Paul George.
  • They don't have an offense that caters to the strengths of the roster.
  • Getting a time machine and finding Kevin Durant a heart when they were up 3-1.
Yeah, they can keep Grant and Schroeder, but just about everyone else gotta go
 

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The Lakers won't and wouldn't have to trade Ball or Kuzma

I would offer Ingram, Wagner and a future 1st rounder for PG13 and Dennis Schroder.

If OKC wants more, then offer #11 as well.

You can't take Adams contract, you don't have enough money. I would only do this if I know for a fact, AD ain't coming.

OKC gets a lottery pick, a promising young player when healthy and they are completely cleared from the LT.
Lakers would have to wait till the draft pick has value to do this deal. They are 1 million dollars short right now. It just goes to show you that taking on even Dennis contract in regards to PGs is hard af
 
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