How can OKC get better?

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when will yall get it through your heads that basketball is a TEAM game?

westbrook isnt out there alone....

watch golf...bowling....boxing or something else....hell watch tennis....they atleast are out there alone....
I know basketball is a team game. You'd have a point if Westbrook was solo and we're not just asking him to get out the first round. I'm not saying he should win a chip but 3 straight first round exits when you've played with an all star and near superstar caliber player(s)? PG did his part and dropped 32 points, 10 reb, 6 asst his +/- was -2. Schroeder off the bench dropped 17 and OKC bench outscored Portland's 32-18.....This is on Westbrook. You can't tell me he doesn't have enough to beat a team that's gotten swept out the first round 3 years in a row. Last season he lost to a team led by a rookie.
 

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Westbrook is 30 years old.

Nobody wants a 30 year old Westbrook with declining athleticism due for $38 million a year who is uncoachable.

The Thunder are stuck with him.

They’re better off starting Westbrook at SG and trying to convince him to just be a slasher / playmaker than a high usage PG who the offense runs through at all times.
nobody wants to play in oklahoma, when westbrook retires that franchise may die. they better hold on to the golden era while its here
 

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I know basketball is a team game. You'd have a point if Westbrook was solo and we're not just asking him to get out the first round. I'm not saying he should win a chip but 3 straight first round exits when you've played with an all star and near superstar caliber player(s)? PG did his part and dropped 32 points, 10 reb, 6 asst his +/- was -2. Schroeder off the bench dropped 17 and OKC bench outscored Portland's 32-18.....This is on Westbrook. You can't tell me he doesn't have enough to beat a team that's gotten swept out the first round 3 years in a row. Last season he lost to a team led by a rookie.
Regardless of how you feel about Westbrook, no one is touching that contract for a player that's been on the decline for the last three seasons and on a steep decline this year.

My man first step became ordinary. He going through what D Rose went through where he is clearly on the decline but he is still D. Rose. It took people awhile to see that D. Rose is not the same.
 

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They will fire Donovan first, and then possibly try to trade Adams to get an offensive option or two. They don't use Adams on offense, it is easy to replace him with a cheaper option and have more offensive options on the team.
If hes that easy to replace why would anyone trade for him :francis:



you always gotta consider the other team too
 

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If hes that easy to replace why would anyone trade for him :francis:



you always gotta consider the other team too
Adams has good reputation and value, he is just not valued on a team like OKC who just play PG and Russ ball. They won't get much for Adams but that is their only valuable asset if they want to improve, otherwise they are fukked. That is the only move I can see them making if they make a drastic move.

When Russ re-signed, he committed to OKC..I just don't see how OKC even entertains an idea about trading him. The fans would kill the franchise and PG only re-signed because of Russ.
 

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:deadrose: at some of this dumb shyt.

Team was in the top 3 or 4 for most of the first half of the season & then PG got hurt at the worst possible time. PG getting hurt, Robes never making it back, & Abrines leaving killed the wing rotation. They couldn't get Matthews, Ellington, or even Brewer for different reasons so they spent the second half of the year playing Nader (who should be a 15th guy on a roster not a rotation guy), & even then he got replaced by 2019 Ray Felton in the last 10 or so games.
The team was never that good this year. PG was. The issue is simple. You got PG for two years.

That's all you really got other than Morris and Noel who might not be back next year.

Adams is massively overpaid as is Dennis. Russ signed the supermax so you know moving him will be next to impossible.

You in a major quarrel.

Now the money I'll bet says OKC will just do this again in 2019-2020 and blow it out then but is the delay really gonna benefit ya'll?
 

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Adams has good reputation and value, he is just not valued on a team like OKC who just play PG and Russ ball. They won't get much for Adams but that is their only valuable asset if they want to improve, otherwise they are fukked. That is the only move I can see them making if they make a drastic move.

When Russ re-signed, he committed to OKC..I just don't see how OKC even entertains an idea about trading him. The fans would kill the franchise and PG only re-signed because of Russ.
Adams can have a great reputation and trade value and still be vastly overpaid. You can get centers these days for like 8-10 million some for like pennies. Adams dont do enough to be making his type of bank.

I don't think you have to with that contact, he is a Thunder lifer.
 

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Adams has good reputation and value, he is just not valued on a team like OKC who just play PG and Russ ball. They won't get much for Adams but that is their only valuable asset if they want to improve, otherwise they are fukked. That is the only move I can see them making if they make a drastic move.

When Russ re-signed, he committed to OKC..I just don't see how OKC even entertains an idea about trading him. The fans would kill the franchise and PG only re-signed because of Russ.
They're fukked over either way at this point :hubie:
 

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The issue with the thunder is that none of these "quick trades" for their underperforming players really work because they simply make too much money ... Westbrick is making 38 million dollars next season ...no team really has the cap space to absorb that kind of money in a trade and still facilitate a good team around him... same goes for Adams .. who the fukk would trade for him when he makes 25 million a year lol ....

what they honetly might have to do is convert PG13 into 2 players ... thats probably their best bet as he has the highest value ... if you can ship PG to boston for like idk lets say Haywayd and Smart or Brown the celts may do that .. but its going to have to take that kind of thinking to get this team back going .. thats the downside of these designated ultra max contraxts ...once you got a guy getting 40mil a year youre kind of stuck with him ..
You can get a haul for PG but I wouldn't want Boston bullshyt especially looking at OKC financials. I would look at a team like Utah. Someone who can cleanly observe a bad contract and give you assets.


Three utah 1st rounders, Adams, PG for Ingles, cap space, Exum. They would eat up all of Adams contract some of PG. They have like 30 million in cap as well with the player options. Something like that
 

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Adams can have a great reputation and trade value and still be vastly overpaid. You can get centers these days for like 8-10 million some for like pennies. Adams dont do enough to be making his type of bank.

I don't think you have to with that contact, he is a Thunder lifer.
Agreed, I just don't see them improving outside of trading Adams and getting lucky there. They are not going to trade Westbrook or PG. Presti needs to do a better job at role players too. Morey is a good example of finding no ones and getting help. A Gerald Green type of player would be much more useful to OKC than whatever they have on the bench.
 

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besides firing the coach

how about you stop being a bytch and just get try again next year
it was obvious months ago that OKC wasnt winning shyt
and its weird coming back on here seeing people talk about PG going to LA
yall really want that man to carry Lebron that bad?

cant even let teams grow anymore... they got a decent little squad... just need to make adjustments and get a better coach

weird to me seeing so many people give up year after year... build chemistry and make small tweaks
 

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You can get a haul for PG but I wouldn't want Boston bullshyt especially looking at OKC financials. I would look at a team like Utah. Someone who can cleanly observe a bad contract and give you assets.


Three utah 1st rounders, Adams, PG for Ingles, cap space, Exum. They would eat up all of Adams contract some of PG. They have like 30 million in cap as well with the player options. Something like that
I was just using the Celts as an example .... Adams makes 25 million a year the jazz likely dont have enough cap space to take him and pg on even with the options ... and why would they take adams when they already have gobert who's a better player? but i get your point





a team like Sac could work too in theory .... they could take back Barnes and Buddy and Giles and a pick for example or Brooklyn for Caris Levert & Dinwiddie and picks ... but basically something along the lines of that since westbrick is pretty much going nowhere and you want to stretch out the talent for him
 
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