How Black is BlackPearl? Updated! Post #360

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I found this very interesting too. According to Ancestry I have a very weak connection to African American genetic communities. That's really weird.

I came back to:

Genetic Communities™
African Americans in the Deep South
Connection: Very Likely

African Americans in North Carolina's Northern Coastal Plain
Connection: Possible

What are Genetic Communities?


I didn't even realize that Ancestry had a large database for the Caribbean until my aunt got her test results back and she came back as not only a match to African Americans in the Deep South, but she also matched African Caribbeans in the Greater Antilles. Ancestry is getting better and better. For whatever reason I don't match the African Caribbeans in the Greater Antilles, but in separate GedMatch results I came back as match to Dominicans and Puerto Ricans.
 

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Uhh it's negligible.:mjpls:
Anyway we off that, this thread ain't about me it's about you shorty.:russ: Just know...
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Btw before I put in my official dna %s prediction in this prediction thread, if you're able to, could you tell us the general region most of your fam/ancestors originate from(south, west, east, midwest etc) because that matters, word to human genetic clustering.

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That came out wrong, ain't no DarrynCacbretti over here my guy
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Yeah pretty soon we might have to revise this thinking, because as more African Americans are getting tested it looks like that number might end up being higher than many people originally believed. Today my aunt got her DNA test results back and we found out that she is 95% African, which is as high as many Africans from the continent. I have 10 other uncles and aunts as well as my mom and lots of siblings, cousins, etc., and I am convinced that most of them will also be in the 90%+ territory because my uncles, aunts and mom all have the same parents. However, for whatever reason I only came out to 87% African (86% is African and 1% is called Polynesian which is really from Madagascar), which probably means that my dad had less African DNA than my mom.

The kicker is that being dark skinned does not determine how African a person is. My aunt is medium brown and she 95% African. My brother-in-law got his results back and he is really dark skinned, but he is only 86% African.

My girl is dark skin and like 87 or so % "African" mean while I`m lighter brown and 100%.
 

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That still doesn't explain why he has a stronger connection to AA than I do. By your logic he's connected via "pure" Africans and the test would be connecting Africa DNA. If I have 70% African DNA then why is my connection weak. Both sides of my family have DEEP roots in the south. I have pictures of many of my ancestors who are very dark skinned people. So why is it showing a weak connection to African DNA?

It doesn't make any since that he has a stronger connection to my community than I do. Would he not be connecting to his own people?

I think that he is Mandingo. Many people in the Coastal regions of South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia were imported from Africa to grow rice and indigo; which was what the people from places like Sierra Leone, Liberia, Mali, Guinea and Senegal/Gambia did. A lot of the the slaves from Sierra Leone, Liberia, Mali, Guinea and Senegal/Gambia were Mande (Mandingos Mende, Kpelle, Vai, Gullah, Loko, etc.).

I am speculating, but since the slaves in the Coastal regions were largely Mande (Fulani and Wolof too) and since they didn't mix very much with Europeans then a Mandingo in Africa would likely look very similar genetically to a Black person from the Coastal regions of South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia. You likely wouldn't match the genetic community in South Carolina, because you probably don't have much Mande DNA. .
 
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Yeah pretty soon we might have to revise this thinking, because as more African Americans are getting tested it looks like that number might end up being higher than many people originally believed. Today my aunt got her DNA test results back and we found out that she is 95% African, which is as high as many Africans from the continent. I have 10 other uncles and aunts as well as my mom and lots of siblings, cousins, etc., and I am convinced that most of them will also be in the 90%+ territory because my uncles, aunts and mom all have the same parents. However, for whatever reason I only came out to 87% African (86% is African and 1% is called Polynesian which is really from Madagascar), which probably means that my dad had less African DNA than my mom.

The kicker is that being dark skinned does not determine how African a person is. My aunt is medium brown and she 95% African. My brother-in-law got his results back and he is really dark skinned, but he is only 86% African.
Them 70% numbers never sounded right to me. Too many factors come into play to go with that as solid.
 

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Yeah pretty soon we might have to revise this thinking, because as more African Americans are getting tested it looks like that number might end up being higher than many people originally believed. Today my aunt got her DNA test results back and we found out that she is 95% African, which is as high as many Africans from the continent. I have 10 other uncles and aunts as well as my mom and lots of siblings, cousins, etc., and I am convinced that most of them will also be in the 90%+ territory because my uncles, aunts and mom all have the same parents. However, for whatever reason I only came out to 87% African (86% is African and 1% is called Polynesian which is really from Madagascar), which probably means that my dad had less African DNA than my mom.

The kicker is that being dark skinned does not determine how African a person is. My aunt is medium brown and she 95% African. My brother-in-law got his results back and he is really dark skinned, but he is only 86% African.
I think you may be right. A lot of may have to do with the English colonies not having a large mixed race caste.
 

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Yeah pretty soon we might have to revise this thinking, because as more African Americans are getting tested it looks like that number might end up being higher than many people originally believed. Today my aunt got her DNA test results back and we found out that she is 95% African, which is as high as many Africans from the continent. I have 10 other uncles and aunts as well as my mom and lots of siblings, cousins, etc., and I am convinced that most of them will also be in the 90%+ territory because my uncles, aunts and mom all have the same parents. However, for whatever reason I only came out to 87% African (86% is African and 1% is called Polynesian which is really from Madagascar), which probably means that my dad had less African DNA than my mom.

The kicker is that being dark skinned does not determine how African a person is. My aunt is medium brown and she 95% African. My brother-in-law got his results back and he is really dark skinned, but he is only 86% African.

Yep.

I'm a few shades darker than my
mother. She came out 90%, I'm 84%.

Skin color (hair type too) is a result of only a few genes. Not a good indicator at all of how much African ancestry someone has.

This should be common sense tho. Look at Africans, they come in all shades of brown.

Some people :mjpls: got that stereotypical belief that being darker automatically means being more African.
 

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One mystery that DNA seems to have solved is why so many African Americans have a a strain of Polynesian and Melanesian DNA. Initially researchers thought that the DNA was associated with Native Americans, however it looks like the Polynesian and Melanesian DNA is actually from Island of Madagascar and it came from about 30 Indonesian women that had migrated onto Madagascar about 1,000 years ago. Those Indonesian women married the Bantu men that had arrived onto the Island from the African mainland and their offspring are called Malagasy. We now know from slave trading records that the Europeans enslaved quite a few Malagasy people and took them to places like Virginia and New York. The Malagasy were also take to the Caribbean and to Peru. So initially the researchers had difficulty telling the difference between Native American ancestry and Asian Ancestry, because both sets of DNA is from the same source.

30 Indonesian Women (Accidentally) Founded Madagascar
Indonesia–Madagascar relations - Wikipedia
Madagascar mystery of how small group of Indonesian women colonised island
Malagasy people - Wikipedia
http://rootsrevealed.blogspot.com/2014/06/got-roots-in-madagascar.html
 
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One mystery that DNA seems to have solved is why so many African Americans have a a strain of Polynesian and Melanesian DNA. Initially researchers thought that the DNA was associated with Native Americans, however it looks like the Polynesian and Melanesian DNA is actually from Island of Madagascar and it came from about 30 Indonesian women that had migrated onto Madagascar about 1,000 years. Those Indonesian women married the Bantu men that had arrived onto the Island from the African mainland and their offspring are called Malagasy. We now know from slave trading records that the Europeans enslaved quite a few Malagasy people and took them to places like Virginia and New York. The Malagasy were also take to the Caribbean and to Peru. So initially the researchers had difficulty telling the difference between Native American ancestry and Asian Ancestry, because both sets of DNA is from the same source.

30 Indonesian Women (Accidentally) Founded Madagascar
Indonesia–Madagascar relations - Wikipedia
Madagascar mystery of how small group of Indonesian women colonised island
Malagasy people - Wikipedia
http://rootsrevealed.blogspot.com/2014/06/got-roots-in-madagascar.html
This is actually interesting b/c I've had Polynesian DNA show up on a few of my tests.
 

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Where did mostly BlackPearl The Empress claim she wasn't black/African American/African/Negro? It seem like everybody trying to make her less black than what she really is lol.
Thank you. Someone who can actually comprehend. I never denied being "Black" nor have I denied having African ancestors. But some people are slow. lol
 

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This is actually interesting b/c I've had Polynesian DNA show up on a few of my tests.

I have Polynesian DNA as well, which made me start researching where it came from. It must from my dad's side of the family, which makes sense because a lot of the Malagasy seem to have been taken to the Mid-Atlantic region (Maryland, Virginia, etc). The Europeans purchased war captives in Madagascar and Mozambique and transported them to the Americas.

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