Clark Wayne
Superstar
Should be an interesting game. Last time they played was in 2021 I think and that was when Lamar finally got one win on Mahomes barely.
Totally different teams now.
Totally different teams now.
How big is this chiefs game for Allen/McDermott?
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murksiderock
Superstar
I said they were playing/coaching too conservative almost that entire second half, I pointed this out in real time in the game thread...
Come on bruh, we've seen quarterbacks overcome being on teams with defensive limitations and play great, you can start with some of Mahomes' earlier teams as a point of reference. Cincinnati's defense played great. You're shortchanging Burrow, who still had to overcome an 11-point halftime deficit ON THE ROAD to win that game. But Allen at home, I shouldn't expect him to drive down and win with the ball in his hands, two minutes left?
You guys are inadvertently admitting that yall don't even think Allen is That Guy. Just tell me how low the bar is for him, so I know for future reference, because I apparently have higher expectations for him as an elite player than most of you...
Kingcobrakai
Pro
He’s not the PROBLEM, he isn’t the full solution. So either they should have put the ball in his hands more (51 out of 77 plays) or less……to control the game better and create better outcomes.nikkas really hate Allen. It fukking ridiculous
If you watched that game and your takeaway is that Allen is the Bills problem I don’t know what to tell you.
I don’t know why people have to say that people hate Allen or think he’s the problem to say he’s not the dude people say he is. If he is was the dude, his defenders would be able to say “he just had an off night” or “luck wasn’t with him” but neither of those are true. He is who is, played virtually mistake free in the first half, and as time ticked off the clock in the second half…… he didn’t perform like a top tier QB with his arms or legs. At the end of the day, that allowed all the other miscues and missed opportunities to show up.
Ok,
You are lacking a lot of context. Two years ago they put the ball in Allen hands, and he played almost a perfect game, but the Defense give up a fg in 13 seconds and we still lost. It is a coaching problem
How did he have an off night when the Bills WRs dropped two critical down field passes. He got bumped on the play to Shakir that was missed. It was just a great play by Chris Jones.
Also the Bills was literally missing half their starting defensive. No exaggeration. Plus the kicker missed a chance to tie the game. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes got Travis Kelce running wide open in the end zone with no Bills around him.
Bottom line is I am fine with the way Allen played. I am not fine with keeping our head coach. Mahomes have Any Reid and Allen have a decent but not great head coach in Sean McDermott.
People conveniently ignore this
0-3 in the playoffs. YIKES
Excuses and whataboutism....we in 2024
Josh Allen regressed in the 4th quarter and failed in situational football.
Chiefs last 3 offensive possessions:
Fumble in the endzone
Punt
Punt
Yup. Everyone want to act like it is Mahomes vs Allen one on one. It’s about the parts around them and coaching. I think Mahones is a better QB than Lamar, but I have The Ravens beating the Chiefs next week because I believe the Ravens have the better team.
People were calling Matt Stafford overrated for years. As soon as he got a better coach and pieces around him he won the superbowl.
Joe Montana was not the same QB when he went to KC. Again people and the media just want to make hot takes without adding any context.
Perfect example of want I am talking about.
It is not excuses, it giving an account of what actually happened. I understand though. It is easier and funnier to just say its on Allen.
Perfect example of want I am talking about.
It is not excuses, it giving an account of what actually happened. I understand though. It is easier and funnier to just say its on Allen.
Let's keep it factual...
1-Did Josh Allen have an opportunity to win the game for the Bills?
2-How did Josh Allen perform in the situational football component of the game?
1. Actually no. He had the opportunity to to take the lead or tie the game. The Chiefs still would have time to win the game. He left the field giving Tyler Bass an opportunity to give the Bills 3 points and tie the games.
2. I think he was good. It was the right play to throw to Shakir. He was open, he just got bumped at the same time he throw the ball. It was a great play by Chris Jones. I would have preferred that we ran a QB draw on 3rd down and went for it on 4th down. It also would have helped if our WRs wouldn’t of dropped the ball down the field.
This is how you know that people are being unreasonable. Everyone is saying just ignore the missed kick, neglecting the fact Allen got them in FG range to tie the game. People what to ignore the fact that Allen was bumped at the same time he throw the ball to Shakir, who was wide open. They telling everyone to ignore the fact that Allen carried the Bills the entire game. People really just want to create a false narrative for storyline purposes.
McDermott on the other hand need to go. It is not that Allen can’t beat Mahomes in the playoffs. It is that the Bills will always be at a coaching disadvantage because the Chief have Andy Reid.
McDermott on the other hand need to go. It is not that Allen can’t beat Mahomes in the playoffs. It is that the Bills will always be at a coaching disadvantage because the Chief have Andy Reid.