How Arab Colonialism Conquered the Middle East: Arabs have managed to convince millions in the region that they share the same identity.

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Interesting to see that the leadership of the Democratic party has decided to have their propaganda department promote racism against Arabs on internet forums.

what is an Arab?

 

[Bonk]

North Africans are Berbers. They are 100% African just like West, East, Central and South Africans. They speak Arabic because of the Mohammedian invasion.

The Berbers speak Arabic for the same reason your folks and your cousins the Pakistanis and Sri Lankans speak English.

A lot of North Africans converted to Islam during the Umayyad dynasty - the same way the Almoravid dynasty led to the rise of Islam in the Sahel. And just as the African tribes in the Sahel never lost their identity after embracing Islam whilst building Songhay & Mali empires & writing the Ajami scripts - North Africans also kept their Berber identity.

The Arabisation of North Africa started with the Europeans. They were the ones who cut North Africa into the Middle East whilst dividing Africa into two. They were also the ones who divided the whole of the Middle East & Arabian peninsula, after the fall of the Ottoman empire - whilst making all the Arab warlords that helped them in defeating the Ottomans the kings in all the artificial countries they created (the Catholic Church also played a big role in it). So, the so-called, ‘Arab Colonialism’, is basically European Colonialism with an Arab face.

Cacs are very cunning people. They’ll create a problem, then come back decades later & start blaming other people for the problem they created. That’s the same thing that happened in Nigeria. Cacs created the mess in Northern Nigeria with the Fulanisation of the whole region by forcing all the ethnic groups that defeated the Fulanis & their Jihad under Fulani subjugation. But let cacs tell the story: it’s about how the country is Muslim North & Christian south, with Christians being persecuted by Muslims.

Anyway, I don’t know what point the OP is trying to make with the thread but a lot of North Africans are embracing their Berber identity than they did in the past, especially Algerians & Moroccans (to an extent).

And if it’s about Israel - those Jews in Israel aren’t the ones that got expelled from the land by the Roman Catholic. The Jews that got expelled spoke Aramaic/Hebrew while the fake Jews trying to steal the land from Palestinians (who by extension were Assyrians, who expelled the Phoenicians that moved to Africa & founded Carthage in present day Tunisia) speak Yiddish (a Germanic/Slavic language). Their only claim to the land is religion & that’s basically like Zoroastrians coming back from extinction in Europe & going to Iran to claim the land from the Persians.

 

[Pressure]

The fact that TLR is full of Arab stan’s is hilarious to me.

nikkas is lost

HL worse.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I'm black you stupid motherfukker

We know you are from Kerala! Dark skinned Indian c*nt!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We know you are from Kerala! Dark skinned Indian c*nt!

I'm black. Watch your mouth and stop with that abeed talk

 

[Samori Toure]

I'm black you stupid motherfukker

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm cracking up that the thesis is basically "Middle Easterners aren't a monolith" and then the front page is full of a bunch of responses treating them as a monolith.

Benjamin Gladstone is a self-admitted proud Zionist. He's behind this so-called "progress"ME mag.

The Blogs: Zionism, time to take back the left

From the blog of Ben Gladstone at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

This entire thread was borne out of emotion. You losers hate Palestinians so much that you're scrambling for any reasons to try to justify Israel's brutality.

GREAT catch.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Interesting to see that the leadership of the Democratic party has decided to have their propaganda department promote racism against Arabs on internet forums.

Big assumption that it has anything to do with Democratic leadership. Establishment Dems are stupid, but you expect to see at least some competence from experience. Just as likely that it's some random pro-dem booster like a crypto bro with money to throw around but doesn't know who to hire. For all we know, he might still be getting paid out of SBF accounts.

 

[DoubleClutch]

I think the reality is, the black man has been on the "bad" end of two of the biggest colonizations in human history (Arabic and European). So dudes associate it with being a "bad thing"; not realizing that fairytale don't exist, either you conquer someone else or they'll conquer you. The black man has taken so many Ls within the last 1000 years that alot of us, feel those Ls are "normal"...

I guess it’s because Africa is such a big and rich continent it was bound to get exploited along with its people, who really didn’t have that colonizer/racist mentality

Maybe thats just the way it was meant to be. Because Africans suffer the whole world could prosper

And white peoples couldn’t survive being slaves

 

[DoubleClutch]

The more I learn the less I think "islam" did that but rather pre-islamic regional societies.

Remember, our concept of what centralized islam is different now from what it was back then. I'm sure the regionalism was WAY more prevalent back then versus the streamlined perspective of what it means to be "Arab" now.

I dont really know if we can say modern-day perceptions of the "Saudis" brought SPAIN out of the Middle Ages.

Right and I think most Muslims today make the mistake of thinking their Islam (as it is today) is the same as what “Islam” was originally.

He’s giving the God of Islam the credit when basically Islam grew out of the foundation of Judaism/Christianity as a religion and belief system and really gives nothing new in that department

All it does is critiques the other religions, and takes away from them in order to validate itself as the “true religion”

But this evolved over time.

Now if you want to say Muhammad and Arab Muslims leaders accomplished a lot with their Arab nationalism and caliphates in building societies from a historical standpoint then, ok.

They was good at making war, conquest, winning and taking over lands ruling and acquiring wealth and power all over the world in a short span of time

That is an amazing accomplishment. But has nothing to do with religion and doesn’t make the people good.

 

[invalid]

Frank B. Wilderson, author of Afro-Pessimism, and highly cited critical race scholar, had this to say about Palestinians in his book:

My friend spoke openly as we watched the world below us rush by without even looking up to pay its respects. At one point Sameer spoke of being stopped and searched at Israeli checkpoints. He spoke in a manner that seemed not to require my presence. I hadn’t seen this level of concentration and detachment in him before. That was fine. He was grieving

“The shameful and humiliating way the soldiers run their hands up and down your body,” he said. Then he added, “But the shame and humiliation runs even deeper if the Israeli soldier is an Ethiopian Jew.”

The earth gave way. The thought that my place in the unconscious of Palestinians fighting for their freedom was the same dishonorable place I occupied in the minds of Whites in America and Israel chilled me. I gathered enough wits about me to tell him that his feelings were odd, seeing how Palestinians were at war with Israelis, and White Israelis at that. How was it that the people who stole his land and slaughtered his relatives were somehow less of a threat in his imagination than Black Jews, often implements of Israeli madness, who sometimes do their dirty work? What, I wondered silently, was it about Black people (about me) that made us so fungible we could be tossed like a salad in the minds of oppressors and the oppressed?

I was faced with the realization that in the collective unconscious, Palestinian insurgents have more in common with the Israeli state and civil society than they do with Black people. What they share is a largely unconscious consensus that Blackness is a locus of abjection to be instrumentalized on a whim. At one moment Blackness is a disfigured and disfiguring phobic phenomenon; at another moment Blackness is a sentient implement to be joyously deployed for reasons and agendas that have little to do with Black liberation. There I sat, yearning, in solidarity with my Palestinian friend’s yearning, for the full restoration of Palestinian sovereignty; mourning, in solidarity with my friend’s mourning, over the loss of his insurgent cousin; yearning, that is, for the historical and political redemption of what I thought was a violated commons to which we both belonged—when, all of a sudden, my friend reached down into the unconscious of his people and slapped me upside the head with a wet gym shoe: the startling realization that not only was I barred, ab initio, from the denouement of historical and political redemption, but that the borders of redemption are policed by Whites and non-Whites alike, even asas they kill each other.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm cracking up that the thesis is basically "Middle Easterners aren't a monolith" and then the front page is full of a bunch of responses treating them as a monolith.






GREAT catch.

Does this challenge the notion of what “palestinians” are and what it means to be Arab? This is an argument African diasporas are dealing with especially in the USA.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Frank B. Wilderson, author of Afro-Pessimism, and highly cited critical race scholar, had this to say about Palestinians in his book:

I find it funny so many on the white left are hostile to Afro-Pessimism

 

[Shogun]

Yo why do they do these random head bobbles ?

I work with a woman from India. She said its similar to how westerners nod their head front-to-back to indicate acknowledgment or agreement. They just go side-to-side.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Does this challenge the notion of what “palestinians” are

My notion of "Palestinians" is that they are people who live in Palestine. At times, more specifically referring to people who live in Palestine but aren't allowed to be Israeli citizens.