Religion/Spirituality House Of Konsciousness Thread

[IronFist]

 

[Czar]

While I totally disagree with Polight on his stance concerning the bible, I respect the way he presents his opinions in an intelligent manner. He can be way off on a ton of things, but at least he keeps it cordial... unlike others (Seti).

It's not difficult to refute the HI's blatant misinterpretation of scripture and history.

The best way to corner them is by pressing them for proof of the fraudlent Hebrew dialect they call Lashawan Qadash (created by an OG elder named Ahrayah)/

Along with exposing their half truths regarding history, specifically African and Western Asian. Their false doctrines, such as the white man being Esau/Edomites. Ironic, considering the man they claim to descend from, Jacob, was Esau's twin brother.

Then you expose the inconsistency in their movement. Such as each splinter group blatantly disrespecting one another. Along with the extra biblical & looney stuff they teach about their elders. Like desceased UPKer Masha supposedly being King David, or Ahrayah being John the Revelator.

And last but not least, you expose their failed/false prophecies. Such as the one they kicked in the 90's about Jesus coming back by the year 2000.




Easiest cult to debunk if you know your stuff.

 

[Newark88]

Polight vs The Hebrew Isrealites (UPK sect) December 7

 

[Newark88]

Sh1t almost got real

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

While I totally disagree with Polight on his stance concerning the bible, I respect the way he presents his opinions in an intelligent manner. He can be way off on alot of things, but at least he keeps it cordial... unlike others (Seti).

As a former BHI/ex-UPKer, I woulda loved to have been on 125th the day he debated them. Y'all have no idea how easy it is to expose their blatant misinterpretation of scripture and history. They honestly do not deviate from what their so called "elders" teach them.

The best way to expose any Hebrew Israelite sect is by cornering them in the Hebrew language, since most either speak a fake version of it called Lashawan Qadash (created by an OG elder named Ahrayah) or have no understanding of it at all.

You expose their half truths regarding history, specifically African and Western Asian. Then you attack their false doctrines, such as the white man being Esau/Edomites. Ironic, considering the man they claim to descend from, Jacob, was Esau's twin brother. Even funnier since they vehemently deny being Africans, claiming the motherland and it's people are destine for destruction.

Then you expose the inconsistency in their movement. Such as each splinter group blatantly disrespecting one another. Along with the extra biblical & looney stuff they teach about their elders. Like desceased UPKer Masha supposedly being King David, or Ahrayah being John the Revelator.

And last but not least, you expose their failed/false prophecies. Such as the one they kicked in the 90's about Jesus coming back by the year 2000 to kill & enslave white folks and africans.




Easiest cult to debunk if you know your stuff.

What made you leave the group?

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

Polight vs The Hebrew Isrealites (UPK sect) December 7

It all starts with Language and Polight knows Hebrew. This might might be a bodybag for Polight.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Neither one of these guys can battle the other because both their doctrines have nonsense in them, friends.

 

[Czar]

The 1 West position is cultish.

 

[Czar]

Neither one of these guys can battle the other because both their doctrines have nonsense in them, friends.

Lol pretty much.

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

Lol where do I start?

I left after discovering their blatant lies, false doctrines, distortion of scripture and history. The contradictions in their personal lives Vs what they preach. Their system of keeping high ranking members paid & everyone else broke with made up tithes and funds. Their overall apathy for the well being of most members. Their discouragement of independent research or questioning anything that is taught in their schools.

They are a cult. Every last camp. From the new ISUPK (Who Polight is debating) to AOC to ICGJC to GMS to IUIC to HOI to HOD and everyone else inbetween. At one point they were one big cult (og ISUPK). They didn't start splitting up until their false prophecy of Jesus returning in the year 2000 failed.

Lemme show you a quick example of their crooked ways.



^The brother who talks @ 32 secs was a good friend of mine named Shabar. We were in the og UPK and later ICGJC. He commited suicide 2 years ago due to not having the money to take care of his medical condition. And this was the guy responsibe for writing many of their lessons, their tracts/pamphlets, website content, etc. Yet none of the higher ranking elders ever hit him off with bread to help him out. In fact, they paid him peanuts for all the work he did and he STILL stayed loyal.. even when people like me tried to wake him up. That's how deep their brainwashing is.

Most of those dudes you see preaching on street corners are dead broke. Working minimum wage jobs, living in halfway houses, homeless shelters, or with like 7-8 brothers crammed in a studio apt... or with their parents and ladies, at age 50.

Brother, i'm glad you shed some light on this subject matter.

One thing I noticed also is that these religious cults usually have the same place of origin which is NYC.

Economically as you mentioned they are not too far from the poverty line, the lack of a stable family home structure also plays a huge role in joining these cults and there lack of education (post high school) draws them in as well.

These types of groups are all contructs of miseducation, social and financial constraints.

Which is why they are still in the position of where they are today.

I've added those videos to my youtube playlist and will check em out.

 

[Czar]

One thing I noticed also is that these religious cults usually have the same place of origin which is NYC.

They target uninformed dudes with a limited knowledge of scripture searching for truth. They encounter huge problems trying to sway an intelligent dude who is biblical sound with a strong foundation of who he is in Christ.

It all starts with Language and Polight knows Hebrew. This might might be a bodybag for Polight.

Watch these videos made by former members so you can see how ignorant the "Hebrew Israelites" are to even basic Hebrew.

 

[OsO]

Sh1t almost got real

 

[Newark88]

 

[Newark88]

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

dudes about to scrap at a conscious event?
Polight's wife said a bartholin gland in a woman could secrete semen?