Hot Take: Chappelle Show had excellent writing but Key & Peele had damn good acting

[manyfaces]

K & P had better acting and production, but none of that is what actually makes sketch comedy funny. In sketch comedy a goofy ass miscast and bad acting can be even funnier than someone casted perfectly for the role. Comedy works because it hits on the unexpected most of the time. When you see the punchline coming it's not nearly as effective. Bad acting with good comedic timing will almost always be more effective than good acting with bad comedic timing when it comes to sketch comedy

 

[Verbal Kint]

Chappelle was a stand up and his ace writer was just a writer. Key and Peele are vets of improv and those sorts of things. KMK literally went to theatre school.

 

[ThirdAct]

Jordan Peele is very versatile for a comedic actor. Key was good too but I was always impressed with how different Peele made each character in each skit. It would be interesting to see him star in a movie he directed but I guess he's done with acting?

 

[ISO]

I think K&P was better

 

[ThatTruth777]

posting just because this came to mind when i thought about the show lol

 

[ISO]

Low key..... it kind feels like more people always hated on K&P or them in general because for some reason they didn’t like “them”.

Like people LOVE Dave, so like even prime time example of his last standup, he can literally just stand on stage, not tell one joke and be angry and people will be like “that’s dope”

People really only start to change on atleast Peele after he started doing Horror movies and they saw “he’s really down for the cause” per say.

But I think if they weren’t as “prejudged” people would be more open to them

Yeah that’s exactly what it is

Dave show was hip-hop too

 

[STAN JONES]

Low key..... it kind feels like more people always hated on K&P or them in general because for some reason they didn’t like “them”.

Like people LOVE Dave, so like even prime time example of his last standup, he can literally just stand on stage, not tell one joke and be angry and people will be like “that’s dope”

People really only start to change on atleast Peele after he started doing Horror movies and they saw “he’s really down for the cause” per say.

But I think if they weren’t as “prejudged” people would be more open to them

the main reasons K&P got hate was their bits ran for too long(especially the first 2-3 seasons) and their racial jokes always came off like they were telling the jokes for/to white people

they used to ham it up too much when they tried to "act black"

i remember the auction block being one of the skits that really pissed people off

Their early shyt felt like white washed suburban nikkas telling jokes about hood nikkas to cacs...shyt just rubbed alot of people the wrong way

 

[Bryan Danielson]

the main reasons K&P got hate was their bits ran for too long(especially the first 2-3 seasons) and their racial jokes always came off like they were telling the jokes for/to white people

they used to ham it up too much when they tried to "act black"

i remember the auction block being one of the skits that really pissed people off

Their early shyt felt like white washed suburban nikkas telling jokes about hood nikkas to cacs...shyt just rubbed alot of people the wrong way

Yea that’s a matter of perspective though..... which later you see turned out to be incorrect

But I hear you and anyone else. I guess they just fall a victim to that thing we do in our community that measures “who’s black enough and who’s not”

Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart could probably do that same skit the same exact way and those same folks wouldn’t have a issue.

 

[Swahili P'Bitek]

Key and peele had better acting which translates into more diversity. That local custom sketch of them doing a victorian english accent

 

[SunZoo]

Low key..... it kind feels like more people always hated on K&P or them in general because for some reason they didn’t like “them”.

Like people LOVE Dave, so like even prime time example of his last standup, he can literally just stand on stage, not tell one joke and be angry and people will be like “that’s dope”

People really only start to change on atleast Peele after he started doing Horror movies and they saw “he’s really down for the cause” per say.

But I think if they weren’t as “prejudged” people would be more open to them

Aries Spears is a herb but he was right to point up that K&P were kinda making a black comedy show for white people and a lot of it has to do with them both being bi-racial. They're less likable to a lot of people, especially black people because their comedy isn't really grounded in black culture. Dave, even with him being from the burbs and having understanding and inroads to the same white audience, his comedy was Hip Hop at it's core and you could argue that he himself is an MC (not a rapper, but an MC).

K&P got more in common with Patton Oswalt than Dave Chappelle, comedically.



Their perspective as growing up bi-racial kids dictates a hell of a whole lot how they think, write and what they wanted to express with their show, which is awesome, but unsurprisingly shows a bit of disconnect from black culture.

But I hear you and anyone else. I guess they just fall a victim to that thing we do in our community that measures “who’s black enough and who’s not”

Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart could probably do that same skit the same exact way and those same folks wouldn’t have a issue.

That's one of my favorite sketches from them, it's absurdist, corny, clearly geared toward/making fun of pretentious white people at art exhibits lol.

Could Kevin "get away" that sketch? As in, would people 'get it' and find it funny? These nikkas opened that episode joking about touching each others dikks lol, meanwhile Dave is telling people he stopped smoking weed with white boys to keep them from engaging in dikknanigans lol

 

[SunZoo]

Key and peele had better acting which translates into more diversity. That local custom sketch of them doing a victorian english accent

For some reason, I keep thinking about combining the two shows LOL

Like what Chappelle show skits could K&P have starred in/enhanced with production value. What sketches of theirs could Dave have made more potent.

 

[KidJSoul]

I didn't mind that Key & Peele skits escalated. Only a few got old (The Airplane Turbulence skit got dragged out way longer than it should have).

The "I said biiiiiitch" skit was exaggerated intentionally. Them going up into space is apart of the joke; they can't escape their wives. That's where the high production value benefits Key & Peele.

Same with the air hump touchdown celebration skit. The flashy camera angles and onscreen graphics make it even more hilarious than it would have been.

I see why people like Chapelle's Show more. But for some reason, it's more hit or miss for me. I feel like when Chapelle's Show hits, it might have more raw funnyness than K&P. But K&P is more consistent. There's a lot of Chapelle's Show episodes where some of the skits are forgettable. As where with K&P, there's a LOT I can remember off the top of my head.

I definitely understand why people Chapelle's Show feels more "hip-hop" ish though. But I think you guys sell K&P a little short in that regards - they definitely had a few skits that might make white people more upset if anything.

But yeah, they are different styles. They aren't really trying to do the same thing. K&P goes for what are essentially mini-movies/mini-stories, hence why they drag the jokes and have high production values. Chapelle's Show is supposed to read more like banter that you might have with your boys when you're chilling or eating lunch, or like a quick roast session (hence why they don't get dragged out as much).

 

[feelosofer]

I don't think that's a hot take at all Key and Peele had decades of experience between the two of them and they were given a higher budget than Chapelle did at the time.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Aries Spears is a herb but he was right to point up that K&P were kinda making a black comedy show for white people and a lot of it has to do with them both being bi-racial. They're less likable to a lot of people, especially black people because their comedy isn't really grounded in black culture. Dave, even with him being from the burbs and having understanding and inroads to the same white audience, his comedy was Hip Hop at it's core and you could argue that he himself is an MC (not a rapper, but an MC).

K&P got more in common with Patton Oswalt than Dave Chappelle, comedically.



Their perspective as growing up bi-racial kids dictates a hell of a whole lot how they think, write and what they wanted to express with their show, which is awesome, but unsurprisingly shows a bit of disconnect from black culture.





That's one of my favorite sketches from them, it's absurdist, corny, clearly geared toward/making fun of pretentious white people at art exhibits lol.

Could Kevin "get away" that sketch? As in, would people 'get it' and find it funny? These nikkas opened that episode joking about touching each others dikks lol, meanwhile Dave is telling people he stopped smoking weed with white boys to keep them from engaging in dikknanigans lol

the most ironic thing about all this is both Dave and Kevin have by far more white fans than K&P


Or atleast Chappelle.

 

[STAN JONES]

the most ironic thing about all this is both Dave and Kevin have by far more white fans than K&P


Or atleast Chappelle.

of course they have more white fans,theyre superstars

they have more fans period