Honest Answers Only - Why do you (yes you) hate LeBron

[Mic-Nificent]

is it supposed to be a bad thing ?


every players of the top 20 had some HoF and All star teammates

Stop reaching. I'm not on that "A player has t own by himself" bullshyt. I was pretty clear in saying my problem is with how people shyt on Lebron's teammates all the time. When the team wins it's because Lebron dragged a bunch of scrubs into the finals, when they lose it's because his teammates didn't show up to help him. Guys that are perennial all stars and future hall of famers end up getting shytted on just because they're playing next to Bron.

Mind you, I have the same issue as it relates to how people shyt on Pippen when talking about Michael Jordan. Pippen was an MVP candidate and one of the best players in the league when Jordan was out, but people will still insist that Pippen was just some dude that Jordan carried.

 

[Verbal Kint]

So, what's getting at you that there isn't more Lebron fans?

What are you not getting? Folks KEEP making reference to LeBron 'stans' and my point is simply that there don't actually seem to be that many of them

 

[McPiff]

Stop reaching. I'm not on that "A player has t own by himself" bullshyt. I was pretty clear in saying my problem is with how people shyt on Lebron's teammates all the time. When the team wins it's because Lebron dragged a bunch of scrubs into the finals, when they lose it's because his teammates didn't show up to help him. Guys that are perennial all stars and future hall of famers end up getting shytted on just because they're playing next to Bron.

Mind you, I have the same issue as it relates to how people shyt on Pippen when talking about Michael Jordan. Pippen was an MVP candidate and one of the best players in the league when Jordan was out, but people will still insist that Pippen was just some dude that Jordan carried.

oh ok i see where you're coming from

 

[Verbal Kint]

Kobe stans are actually funny and bring humor in our delusions where you can tell we're being tongue in cheek

but Lebron stans are actually serious when they say their wild claims. On top of that, they lack humor and don't bring entertainment at all.

So player fandom comes with specific personality traits ? That's an odd stand to take. So nikkas from LA that love Kobe all have a sense of humor and NONE of them are serious with their basketball takes?

 

[blackzeus]

First off, nobody ever got more hate than Kobe, the man has 5 rings and only one MVP, even Larry Bird said that sh*t was bullsh*t. Secondly, Lebron and his stans trying to act as if he is better than nikkaz that played against much higher comp and often times with less help, without all the extra sh*t. Thirdly, Lebron's game is no game, he doesn't portray the skill that an MJ or a Kobe does. He's not really breaking too many players off the dribble, his jumper is not feared. I get why he's good, I don't get why he's GOAT. I don't hate Lebron, I think everybody will admit he's a great player, what people hate are the MJ/Kobe comparisons and all this GOAT b.s.

 

[Mr_X]

For me the thought of Lebron being considered the GOAT over is straightstatus.

Lebron is a one trick pony, just bulldozes his way to the basket. He's an inconsistent jumpshooter and lacks that crisp footwork/fundamentals. Jordan is basketball in its purest form.

Also, Lebron benefited from playing in the weakest eastern conference in the history of the game but somehow his stans act like making the Finals playing in that conference is a huge accomplishment.

Also, Jordan completely dominated his opponents in the Finals while putting up monster stats and never going to 7 games. Realistically, Lebron would have 1 ring if he hadn't been bailed out by Ray Allen and Kyrie but again, Lebron stans act like Lebron is better than Jordan.

 

[number21]

What are you not getting? Folks KEEP making reference to LeBron 'stans' and my point is simply that there don't actually seem to be that many of them

Well, that was never my point with you. So, yeah sure. There isn't as much Bron stans as haters.


It doesn't answers away the point I brought up with the post I quoted that I thought it showcase that you're trying to convince people to stop "hating" on Bron.

 

[brother walt]

NOBODY HATES HIM, WE JUST HATE THE MEDIA AND GROUPIES WHO TRY TO BILL HIM AS SOMETHING HE'S NOT

Like Kobe

 

[feast__5]

When he didn't stand up for Tamir Rice I wrote him off FOREVER.
No coming back from that.

I erased him from the nba roster on 2k on PC cause I don't even want to see him.

nikka said he erased him from 2k

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I actually like Bron.I don't like the media vultures who manipulate/peddle his image for marketing & profit.


Got people saying the man is better than Michael Jordan

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Like Kobe

You'd have a point if not for the fact that Kobe ended up being something that a lot of people said he'd never be...

There was a time where people were openly saying Kobe would be an Average NBA 2 guard if he wasn't playing next to Shaq. Then you have the "Shaq carried Kobe" narrative that has been continually debunked. If it seems like Kobe fans ride for Kobe to an insane degree it's because motherfukkers have been hating on Bean for a LONG time. Think about how many players that were supposedly "better" than Kobe that bean ended up eclipsing over the years. People used to swear that A.I., Vince Carter, Tracey McGrady, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Dwayne Wade were all better than Kobe.

Bron was touted as the next big thing from the jump and has exceeded expectations, but the only person that was questioning whether Bron would be great was Skip Bayless.

 

[DonRe]

Yes he is great player. But I don't like his game.

His shot is wack. He drives to the lane bulldozing people and never gets the off foul call he merits. His handles are lackluster.
He has voided us a great dunk contest or two maybe.

I will say his defensive acumen is very entertaining in the past. And his passing is superb. But he ain't entertaining to me.

 

[Verbal Kint]

First off, nobody ever got more hate than Kobe, the man has 5 rings and only one MVP, even Larry Bird said that sh*t was bullsh*t. Secondly, Lebron and his stans trying to act as if he is better than nikkaz that played against much higher comp and often times with less help, without all the extra sh*t. Thirdly, Lebron's game is no game, he doesn't portray the skill that an MJ or a Kobe does. He's not really breaking too many players off the dribble, his jumper is not feared. I get why he's good, I don't get why he's GOAT. I don't hate Lebron, I think everybody will admit he's a great player, what people hate are the MJ/Kobe comparisons and all this GOAT b.s.

The problem was the comparisons from the jump. LeBron's game has ALWAYS been Magic Johnson who can score at an elite level too. He's never been the pure scorer 2 guard like Kobe or MJ. He was far more of a PG and always has been. We can argue about who's better but their games are nothing alike.

 

[Verbal Kint]

For me the thought of Lebron being considered the GOAT over is straightstatus.

Lebron is a one trick pony, just bulldozes his way to the basket. He's an inconsistent jumpshooter and lacks that crisp footwork/fundamentals. Jordan is basketball in its purest form.

Also, Lebron benefited from playing in the weakest eastern conference in the history of the game but somehow his stans act like making the Finals playing in that conference is a huge accomplishment.

Also, Jordan completely dominated his opponents in the Finals while putting up monster stats and never going to 7 games. Realistically, Lebron would have 1 ring if he hadn't been bailed out by Ray Allen and Kyrie but again, Lebron stans act like Lebron is better than Jordan.

Logically how do you claim LeBron was bailed out by Ray Allen in game 6 but don't say the same about Paxson and Kerr who both hit game winners in game 6's?

 

[Verbal Kint]

Well, that was never my point with you. So, yeah sure. There isn't as much Bron stans as haters.


It doesn't answers away the point I brought up with the post I quoted that I thought it showcase that you're trying to convince people to stop "hating" on Bron.

I already addressed it. That post wasn't trying to convince anyone to stop doing anything, just specifically responding to the talk of 'stans'. That may have been what you took from it but it wasn't the intention.