Honest Answers Only - Why do you (yes you) hate LeBron

[Drew Wonder]

Yeah, I don't rock with Jordan. AT ALL.

I fks with Kobe.
"He raped a white woman" is ppl's arguement against him, but keeping it a 100, I give 0 fks what happens to white women.
ppl also say "He snitched on Shaq".

Shaq is a cop. fukk Shaq. You can't snitch on a cop. Its a cop. Its not your buddy, its not your pal. Its an armed enemy there to harass and hinder your minority community.

So while Kobe is a selfish piece of shyt, the 2 main arguments ppl raise against him don't hold any weiight with me.
If all he does is go around dropping buckets and giving L's to white women and cops, thats a hero and a legend.

How'd you feel about Kobe's Trayvon Martin comments though?
Kobe Bryant takes shots for comments on Trayvon Martin, race

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

those logical fallacies

What logical fallacy?

If you think the Allen play is the same as the Kerr and Paxon plays then you must not know much about basketball. Or you just don't remember them

 

[Edub]

Real answer. I never held that against him because its basically marketing and media doing the crowning. Granted he did play into the whole 'King James' thing but is that that big of a deal? TI called himself the King of the South when Outkast, UGK and others had more plaques on the wall. Sports are a weird thing, man

Breh...these nikkas just haters. I don't go outta my way to hate Kobe or MJ or KD or Curry........these nikkas literally troll Bron tho and his supporters, but thats the effect of goin to the finals 7/8 years straight, the fans gonna appreciate it more and the haters gonna hate it more each year each time. We got a break from Kobe, we got a year break from MJ KD and curry just began.....but Bron been suffocating nikkas hate it or love it always goin to the big show. Nikkas angry, and that's all there is to it.

 

[Verbal Kint]

What logical fallacy?

If you think the Allen play is the same as the Kerr and Paxon plays then you must not know much about basketball. Or you just don't remember them

All were situations where someone hit a shot that wasn't the star. You can't claim LeBron was 'bailed out' by Allen without treating every other play made by role players the same way. Well you can, but you're just moving goalposts to fit your narrative.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

All were situations where someone hit a shot that wasn't the star. You can't claim LeBron was 'bailed out' by Allen without treating every other play made by role players the same way. Well you can, but you're just moving goalposts to fit your narrative.

Not going back n forth. If you don't want to use context then that's stupid but it's whatever

 

[notPsychosiz]

How'd you feel about Kobe's Trayvon Martin comments though?
Kobe Bryant takes shots for comments on Trayvon Martin, race

Rread the article and you will have his statement.

“Travon (sic) Martin was wronged THATS my opinion and thats what I believe the FACTS showed. The system did not work #myopinion #tweetURthoughts.”

What you are missing though is that Kobe has no special obligation or connection to Trayvon Martin, it was just another national white attrocity in a string of them, so he was asked about it. On the other hand, Tamir Rice was murdered in Clevland, Ohio. LeBron is one of the defacto community leaders there. He has a responsibility that comes with that.

So for example, if a black child were to be murdered in Oklaholma right now and Russell Westbrook seemed disinterested, thats horrendously different than a reporter asking Rajon Rondo about the Oklaholma murder cause they have a few seconds after a game. Its a different level of direct obligation.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Here's my part and maybe you'll agree...I have come to respect Bron more so as time went on. Anyone with eyes could see that he is a once a generation player. The ironic thing is Bron's greatest fear may possibly be a loss. No single player in the history of The NBA can say he carried such a ragtag supporting cast like the 07 Cavs to The Finals like Bron did...none of them. Over time it bothered me that people said he was better than Kobe but I did understand. Bron is a better rebounder, passer and peak Bron was probably a better defender. I also understood that outside of Boozer, Big Z and Mo's All Star year Bron may have gotten more out of teammates (I'll leave that for others to debate) The problem with the MJ stuff is that Bron has him in rebounding and assisting but there seems to be a blatant omission of what made MJ what he became. It wasn't about him being the perfect player or anything silly like that. It was the fact that when shyt was tight there was nobody in NBA history who envoked more fear than Jeffrey Jordan...He won games and he closed series. He had help along the way as all greats do. It's also puzzling to see people play dense and act as if Ray's shot and Kerr/Paxson shots are one in the same. Everybody knew who the ball was going to throughout the 4th and it didn't matter. Bird made his bones doing it, so did Reggie, Kobe got it in, Pierce was great at it...even Iso Joe. The issue is we watched Bron have these conflicts over the years that made you wonder was he built like that...I can go on more but I'll just say that Lebron James is the greatest small forward to ever play the game of basketball. 2nd best high school prospect ever as well

I guess Iverson never existed?

 

[Edub]

Rread the article and you will have his statement.

“Travon (sic) Martin was wronged THATS my opinion and thats what I believe the FACTS showed. The system did not work #myopinion #tweetURthoughts.”

What you are missing though is that Kobe has no special obligation or connection to Trayvon Martin, it was just another national white attrocity in a string of them, so he was asked about it. On the other hand, Tamir Rice was murdered in Clevland, Ohio. LeBron is one of the defacto community leaders there. He has a responsibility that comes with that.

So for example, if a black child were to be murdered in Oklaholma right now and Russell Westbrook seemed disinterested, thats horrendously different than a reporter asking Rajon Rondo about the Oklaholma murder cause they have a few seconds after a game. Its a different level of direct obligation.

Stop that fake anger bullshyt......Bron isn't obligated to tamir rice, what happened was fukked all the way up but Bron said he needed the facts, at least I think thats what he said(I could be wrong).....but people actin like his lack of speakin heavy on the tamir rice situation is the reason for the out right dismissal of him as a player is ridiculous.

Jordan hasn't spoken out bout shyt, yet he's crowned every other day on this forum....and I all I ever hear is "we know Jordan personality and off the court ain't shyt, but he won 6".....but wit Bron all this other shyt comes into play. Kobe snitched on shaq and stuck the knife in his back gettin him outta LA, but wit him it's all about his performance, the 81.......but wit Bron all the other shyt get weighed in and he one of the few mega stars who actually spoke out about brutality on the main stage. Hypocrites.

 

[notPsychosiz]

Stop that fake anger bullshyt......Bron isn't obligated to tamir rice, what happened was fukked all the way up but Bron said he needed the facts, at least I think thats what he said(I could be wrong).....but people actin like his lack of speakin heavy on the tamir rice situation is the reason for the out right dismissal of him as a player is ridiculous.

Jordan hasn't spoken out bout shyt, yet he's crowned every other day on this forum....and I all I ever hear is "we know Jordan personality and off the court ain't shyt, but he won 6".....but wit Bron all this other shyt comes into play. Kobe snitched on shaq and stuck the knife in his back gettin him outta LA, but wit him it's all about his performance, the 81.......but wit Bron all the other shyt get weighed in and he one of the few mega stars who actually spoke out about brutality on the main stage. Hypocrites.

Stopped reading at Bron isn't obligated to Tamir Rice.
Not gonna back and forth with you Ares. Don't make me call Zo.

 

[AceMan]

I dislike Bron's ugly game and his fans.

He ain't a Top 5 player of all time.

Arguably, he ain't Top 10 either.

F#ck Bron Bron.

 

[Verbal Kint]

Not going back n forth. If you don't want to use context then that's stupid but it's whatever

No need for back and forth because you're wrong. Ray Allen didn't 'bail' LeBron out any more than Derrick Fisher, Robert Horry, Paxson, Kerr or anyone else that made a big shot in a big moment did. You're trying to claim that 'well that was different' because Jordan passed to Kerr and Paxson but in this context it doesn't matter. They all still had to hit the shots. You're the one making the 'bailed out' claim, not me. Prove it if you can

 

[HabitualChiller]

Here's my part and maybe you'll agree...I have come to respect Bron more so as time went on. Anyone with eyes could see that he is a once a generation player. The ironic thing is Bron's greatest fear may possibly be a loss. No single player in the history of The NBA can say he carried such a ragtag supporting cast like the 07 Cavs to The Finals like Bron did...none of them. Over time it bothered me that people said he was better than Kobe but I did understand. Bron is a better rebounder, passer and peak Bron was probably a better defender. I also understood that outside of Boozer, Big Z and Mo's All Star year Bron may have gotten more out of teammates (I'll leave that for others to debate) The problem with the MJ stuff is that Bron has him in rebounding and assisting but there seems to be a blatant omission of what made MJ what he became. It wasn't about him being the perfect player or anything silly like that. It was the fact that when shyt was tight there was nobody in NBA history who envoked more fear than Jeffrey Jordan...He won games and he closed series. He had help along the way as all greats do. It's also puzzling to see people play dense and act as if Ray's shot and Kerr/Paxson shots are one in the same. Everybody knew who the ball was going to throughout the 4th and it didn't matter. Bird made his bones doing it, so did Reggie, Kobe got it in, Pierce was great at it...even Iso Joe. The issue is we watched Bron have these conflicts over the years that made you wonder was he built like that...I can go on more but I'll just say that Lebron James is the greatest small forward to ever play the game of basketball. 2nd best high school prospect ever as well

Bron's the player you'd want if you were down in the 4th quarter and needed to get within a point or 2 of tying, but he isn't the guy you'd want to take the final shot. IIRC, he was calling for the ball after he bricked the 3 that would've won the game so he's not scared to miss. He just is such a "right basketball play" guy that he prefers to pass to an open role player instead of taking a contested shot. I always saw this as him being willing to share the glory and playing into the "team before all mindset".

 

[Edub]

Stopped reading at Bron isn't obligated to Tamir Rice.
Not gonna back and forth with you Ares. Don't make me call Zo.

He isn't.....tamirs parents are obligated to him, his older siblings, family elders and teachers are obligated to him....if something happens to my child in ohio my child's mother and I are not lookin to Lebron or Jim brown like they owe us something or a word or two on our behalf. I don't expect response but this whole anger at Lebron for what POLICE did to Tamir is outta pocket.

 

[notPsychosiz]

He isn't.....tamirs parents are obligated to him, his older siblings, family elders and teachers are obligated to him....if something happens to my child in ohio my child's mother and I are not lookin to Lebron or Jim brown like they owe us something or a word or two on our behalf. I don't expect response but this whole anger at Lebron for what POLICE did to Tamir is outta pocket.

 

[MrWestGrand]

Criticism isn't hate

Lebron is one of the most pampered NBA player of all time and now we can't criticize bruh

Critiquing him for what he does on the court is fair game, because he's a entertainer. Some people get personal and throw out insults that go beyond regular basketball related issues.

Bron had to come of age in a league full of grown ass men, and navigate himself among a whole lot of trappings that snare quite a few athletes. It's not easy as it looks what he's accomplished and held together.