hipsters in here calling each other hipsters for talking about hipsters.
Holy Sh*t...Pusha T goes in on nerdy fans who don't like Future "U dont go outside"
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Probably the only worthwhile thing that has come outta his mouth.
151_Pr00f
All Star
He has a point but social media made the hood an open book now so it's even easier for "outsiders" and "squares" to hop on the next so called legit nicca. Prime example look at a cheif keef concert and already see the shift in the demographics at the venues. Theres more beef posted on twitter than on the streets 
OG Talk
Archived
One major issue with the modern American negro is most 37 year olds are either still obsessed with "the club" or "the church"...They are still the two greatest institutions on our community...
N1ggas like Pusha are not unique...
He's right but he's kinda shytting where he eats.
He wants that Ma$e type success (when he was popping). He evidently wants to be in Weezy's lane but honestly he's barking up the wrong tree. If he just made music that his fans want to hear... hot beats hot rhymes, mostly rapped hooks.
Rappers could learn from Jermaine. He just puts out the music his fans want. Someone like Push has a much smaller cult following but instead of cultivating the cult he wants to get radio play next to Future.
I'm certain Killer Mike is eating better now he's stopped trying to write hits.
He wants that Ma$e type success (when he was popping). He evidently wants to be in Weezy's lane but honestly he's barking up the wrong tree. If he just made music that his fans want to hear... hot beats hot rhymes, mostly rapped hooks.
Rappers could learn from Jermaine. He just puts out the music his fans want. Someone like Push has a much smaller cult following but instead of cultivating the cult he wants to get radio play next to Future.
I'm certain Killer Mike is eating better now he's stopped trying to write hits.
he said he dont mess with computer based beats then the first thing he name dropped was a ASR
when did electronic keyboards start stuffing real musicians inside them?
Keyboards are instruments. I guess Pharrell uses the ASR. Think he's talking more about FL and co.
Trajan
Veteran
Robert Greene should include Pusha as an example in future editions of his 48 Laws of Power:
Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary
I think we all enjoyed his music more when he wasn't really seen. He wasn't out there like that...you had no idea what he was about. He would just drop crazy bossed up verses with all these clever and extravagant bars and we'd just be
enjoying the wave.
Then as time went on he destroyed the mystique of the image he had cultivated. The more we see of him, the more common he appears.
Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary
I think we all enjoyed his music more when he wasn't really seen. He wasn't out there like that...you had no idea what he was about. He would just drop crazy bossed up verses with all these clever and extravagant bars and we'd just be
enjoying the wave.Then as time went on he destroyed the mystique of the image he had cultivated. The more we see of him, the more common he appears.
For some reason I feel like despite his talent, he still has the mentality of an 18 year old. He's still trying to be the "cool kid" at like 35. Im hyped for the album, but hes basically trying to make himself hot. He'll put whoever on a track to get that release date regardless of who or what is playing "outside"
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
He's the prototypical tragic "mad rapper" ...he's wants a stature and standing in the game that he's just never gonna ever attain...he wants more than anything in the world to have a '06 Tip/'08 Wayne/ current day Drake type reign at the top...is prolly resigned to the prospects of lowered,though still not realistic, best case scenario expectations of a 2012 2Chainz late-career upper midcard run...and has yet to come to grips that he's most likely looking at a sub-big sean level flop whenever Def Jam actually releases his album...he's never gonna really matter in that way he wants, in a Rick Ross BMF-thru-Rich Forever type of way...and the only thing he'll ever have ultimately when it's all done is that niche cult fanbase and the hipster blog love...to see him be so dismissive of what will be ultimately the only thing he has to show for his life's work is kinda wild...most rappers at his age and stage in the game have already given up on dreams of the throne and fully embraced their lil pseduo-underground thing like they never had larger ambitions of greatness
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
On the real,....
The eclipse are marketed as the 'safe' emo rap gangsta drug dealer group.
Or, as the good kids in school who had drugs and the emo scene makes excuses for them, content wise.
So, they can fit in and have a drug dealer group accepted that makes them look cool.
Where they can point to the inferior jay jiggy biter style rhymes of the members.
As some alternative that has some made up mythical quality of cultural respect and higher skill.
Than someone with a different perception like say, Gucci mayne.
Like they have some class above any other gangsta rap group because of marketing companies and emo fans look the other way on sellout shyt from ye.
As ye, was the first emo mainstream relevant major label artist with sales.
that made them feel validated via perception and relevency in the the sales spike era. When previously artist like slug and sole/anticon artist were given no mainstream or street cred based draw/relevency.
that all emo fans deep down had closet feelings of being unaccepted as only an emo supporter can.
Evident by their pass giving to jayz, which was reflective in the rankings of places like hiphopinfinity.
When everything jay is about is a complete departure of what an emo purist is supposed to be about.
So, when ye became tthat drawing aetist of the superstar variety.
While also, being connected to the most relevent mainstream gangsta rap label, rocafella.
ye became the acceptable figure for emo to champion.
Plus, someone was smart enough to use the same emo marketing based company for the clipse.
Which, created the same look the other way pass system.
That emo fans like to employ to fit their agenda, when they want to Have an edgy culture thief based guilty pleasure artist to listen to, to feel cool, too.
Anybody who is around and knows their mo,...
Already, knows the deal and how they give passes.
Which are not based on anything culturally binding whatsoever.
Which is why you have a new collective of rap Fans.
Who are just rap fans, who steer away from emo.
Then, listen to strictly gangsta rap horrorcore/trap records without all the cultural panderings just to fit in, and be connected to a culture they really just want to be entertained by.
Not fully engrossed cultural and lifestyle wise.
Which is fine,...
I have no issue with someone who keeps it real, as just a fan.
I do have an issue with someone trying to pose and front like they are sumfin they are really not.
When it is obvious to people who are real.
Art Barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
It would not matter what he was talembout,...
It is incredibly misinformed like his inability to know what fanbase he is marketed to.
this is what happens when you get toy biter rappers, trying to play purist like they are in the know.
When it is obvious from their music to their interviews[this nikka even said bdk was better than rakim, which is a just lie. Plus a Kane & juice crew gets put in their place real life situation disproves his bdk>rakim rant bullshyt, too].
Duke is just a toy rap Fan.
from a region where it is starving for relevency.
after the supafriends were no longer a draw, of any kind after danja mowf.
Who is really all kanye really is, past his rocafella deal.
plus danja mowf was a better rapper, and argueably a better producer, too.
It just so happened that timbo was not in the rocafella/defjam/island/universal position.
To Capitalize in the same manner off a purist producer/rapper.
In the same vein that defjam/island/universal did from rocafella's kanye at the time.
As the whole rap world was fukked up from the sales spike era.
Pusha t is no better than a jay biter making inferior technical submissions rhymewise over offbrand beats.
He just so happened to be endorsed by pharrell, and now ye.
It is not because he is some more talented jay biter.
Real talk, only difference between angelous and the clipse is angelous was better than both members.
Yet, angelous never had a major label heavyweight producer to cosign him like the clipse did pharrell.
as angelous made actual better rhymes and submissions as a jay biter with less resources.
when fully compared to clipse in a non-bias just strictly skill survey capacity.
Pusha needs to just stfu, and make better choices production wise. Learn the culture and the types of rap music fans and where they fit.
then, make more emo based rap fan choice gangsta rap music that crowd Contingent will rock with to draw.
His focus should not be on a future single,...
Since it will have no traction where he is marketed.
He needs to focus on making an emo brand of reflective grassroots based production gangsta rap.
Funny thing is,..
A guy like aceyalone and all the criminals of the fellowship, to project blower.
Never belly ache like this nikka,.....
Nor, do they try to acquire a draw they know is far and away out of their reach perception wise.
When, the fellowship was one of the first in trouble with the law, and it ruined rheir rap career based groups.
Yet, they never try to glorify that, as a talking point to their draw.
they realize the project blowed grassroots draw has longer longevity, and credibility culturally.
When they are really culturally aware and know they have an audience that wants to listen to more than just flavor of the month gangsta rap records from them.
Pusha needs to do the same thing, and grow into his marketed fanbase.
Which is the hardest to get a pass from and will always draw longer than being the mainstream variety of drawing commercial rapper.
This idea he has,...
That he can jump back into platinum mainstream relevant drawing as a gangsta rapper.
Is completely dead and he has no way skillwise to make that change.
As real talk, he is not that committed to emcee'n.
If he was, he would have up'd skill and done so a long time ago. As real talk, the clipse have never really ramped up past biting jay.
Art Barr
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bruh, the biggest rappers in the world are currently avg age of like 32
More like 34-35.
The only artists doing it big right now in their 20s are only Drake, Cole, and Kendrick, Everybody else is up in that 30+ range.