As far as Im concerend FDR is more just smthg to point to, to say leftist policies work but as far as him as a guy, besides your quote on haiti, i mean he locked up japanese citizens in interment camps. his economic policies didnt extend to minorities. basically he conceded a little to the socialist movements at the time in order to keep the country from revolting and overthrowing capitalism, remember he himself is wealthy and he even said his greatest accomplishment was SAVING capitalism.
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As far as Im concerend FDR is more just smthg to point to, to say leftist policies work but as far as him as a guy, besides your quote on haiti, i mean he locked up japanese citizens in interment camps. his economic policies didnt extend to minorities. basically he conceded a little to the socialist movements at the time in order to keep the country from revolting and overthrowing capitalism, remember he himself is wealthy and he even said his greatest accomplishment was SAVING capitalism.
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FDR did a lot of things wrong like the New Deal did nothing to address segregation or other forms of employment discrimination. The programs from his GI Bill were locally administered, meaning white officials were free to interpret it how they wanted (read as not allowing Black servicemen use the benefits). He didn’t invite Jessie Owens to the Whitehouse after winning four gold medals because he was black (if it had been for being an OSU alumnus, I would be defending FDR
). He failed to fully desegregate the military even though he agreed to. Hell, I'd say it's clear that he was at best indifferent towards racial segregation. Overall, he did not fight against it and most of his laws were mum on the issue, which allowed for the status quo to prevail. He also nominated a Klansman to SCOTUS so there’s also that.That being said, he does deserve credit for FEPC (which did attempt to combat discrimination, although it was limited in scope) and you should look into the Black Cabinet (although I'm inclined to credit Eleanor for this. Hell, she's the GOAT first lady ever when you look at the things she was pushing). His policies are what can be largely credited for African-Americans shifting away from the declining Party of Lincoln to one that housed the Dixiecrats who often our main political antagonists.
Anyway, I completely agree that a full accounting of FDR's, and other historical figures, actions should be alluded to when they are talked about. To what extent would depend on the nature of the conversation, otherwise, there would be a lot of non-sequiturs.
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I think you could actually attribute most, if not all, of his social progress on race to his wife Eleanor. She, and the Black Cabinet, actually wanted him to make lynching a federal crime, where all FDR did was say it was wrong and obviously murder. If I'm not mistaken she also was a proponent of desegregating the military, something her husband failed to do. It went that way on a lot of economic and social policies, she pushed for something meaningful and he'd water it down. She was a more interesting figure in my opinion and also the reason I don't give FDR and other contemporaries passes for their hostility and indifference on racial issues.
Those 538 charts for presidential nominees gotta be the most ridiculous made up shyts I've ever seen.
ignoring Napoleon might just be the best decision I've ever made....
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Russiagate really has broken so many brains. #Resistance folks love calling any and everyone they encounter that disagrees with them a bot especially when they get pushback on social media.
Bernie was trending due to the article stating that he'll be announcing soon and they swear to god it's all bots cuz their brains have permanently been pan-fried and blended into a smooth puree.
Bernie was trending due to the article stating that he'll be announcing soon and they swear to god it's all bots cuz their brains have permanently been pan-fried and blended into a smooth puree.
This Russian bot nonsense has really poisoned the brains of so many. It's like the idea of it got em looking like these conspiracy theory nuts. Hook, line and sinker with this shyt.
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i've seen ppl say "just learn to code" so many times on this site lol. fools