Hip Hop Really Deserves to Die At This Point

Awesome Wells

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This ain't what we signed up for back in the day.

One week, we got dudes apologizing for making diss records and pulling them off of platforms because it wasn't in their heart to do it. Few days later, fools are talking about how dudes don’t even write most of their songs and how "it doesn't matter" because "that's not how records are made today". Literally doubling down on how "lyricism doesn't mean anything today".

Then we got fake manufactured beef that got these bums using AI for diss tracks now, and R&B singers releasing diss tracks. If you look at most of the threads on here, damn near all of them are about drama and some beauty salon gossip sh*t about rappers "beefing", and how so-and-so on whatever podcast thinks this and that about it. And in between all of those millions of threads, you'll catch the occasional "rappers on trial" thread, with all the couch attorneys we have on here predicting how much time dudes will serve or not serve.

The difference between now and the old SOHH days, is that nobody actually talks about the music anymore. Look at how trash the culture has become. This sh*t is like Basketball Wives. The losers, casuals and posers are running the damn asylum now. The standard is so low, that nobody even seems to notice that wackness is the new normal. All the rules and criteria that Hip Hop was built on has been tossed in the bushes so that the corny and less-knowledgable can function in this sh*t. And the problem with the OG's and the older fans, is that everyone is too scared to call it out because they don’t want to be called "old" or "haters".

The situation with Mos Def is a perfect example. Dude told the truth, but then he got scared that he was looking bitter, so he tried to scale it back. Every OG who sits back and is scared to call out this bullsh*t, that's been allowed to change this culture, is a sucka and has failed Hip Hop. Legends with mad classic albums are scared to call certain sh*t wack because they're scared of how their honest opinion is going to make them look. They're ALL mad quiet now. Back in the day, if you thought some sh*t was wack, you just said it. You got old ass dudes on here who are scared to call out sh*t because they don’t want to get flamed for being older, as if that's a bad thing. The damn culture is shambles. And if you don’t think there's people who are from outside the community, who manufactured this shift and are making mad money off this decline in the culture, then you're an idiot.

Long story short, Hip Hop seriously needs to be destroyed and rebuilt. Because all of the forced drama, antics and mediocrity that's become "normal" and gets a pass all day everyday, is not even close to what real Hip Hop looks like. And the more people stay silent and play along with it, just to fit in and hide their real opinions, the more we have to deal with the gentrified version of what was created for the people 50 years ago.

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Hip Hop been a zombiefied corpse for a while, rotting, decaying, its nose just fell off with this AI shyt.

Bro, I don’t even recognize it anymore.

You can't tell me there isn't some mastermind Bond-villain looking like MF sitting back watching and laughing at how his plan worked on Hip Hop. This sh*t is wild.
 

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Been like this for the longest though.

I'm not saying it hasn't got worse or that a change isn't needed. But I joined SOHH in 2001...The Spot was just wall to wall Nas/Jay threads. Then it was Dipset stan wars, then G-Unit fukkery.

Now the music discussion has got even worse but the reality is it's a reflection of the quality of the music. There ain't actually that much worth discussing. The music quality at all levels has hit a wall. So people have got more invested in drama and stupidity.

The rise of the hip hop podcast has definitely been detrimental to the culture..Same is happening in the NBA. I don't want to read these stupid fukkin takes being aggregated from podcasts done solely to generate clicks. There's no value to it and it has dumbed down the discussion.
 

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Nah, all you fossils need to die. Old heads ruined this planet and left us to fix shyt and fend for ourselves, then we stuck you in retirement homes and now you bitter and waving your fists at the passing cars through the screen door. Sit down on that bench and feed the birds old man :pachaha:
 

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Been like this for the longest though.

I'm not saying it hasn't got worse or that a change isn't needed. But I joined SOHH in 2001...The Spot was just wall to wall Nas/Jay threads. Then it was Dipset stan wars, then G-Unit fukkery.

Now the music discussion has got even worse but the reality is it's a reflection of the quality of the music. There ain't actually that much worth discussing. The music quality at all levels has hit a wall. So people have got more invested in drama and stupidity.

The rise of the hip hop podcast has definitely been detrimental to the culture..Same is happening in the NBA. I don't want to read these stupid fukkin takes being aggregated from podcasts done solely to generate clicks. There's no value to it and it has dumbed down the discussion.

I joined SOHH in 2000, as a teenager.

Ended up being the youngest mod on there. But back then, SOHH was kinda like a reflection of the culture. Like on here. So you could comb through mad threads and get put on to new MC's and albums, debate opinions on music and on the actual culture. Today, I'm damn near shocked if I see a thread that's actually about music, and not some drama or "beef".

Today, being ignorant and clueless is like a badge of honor for these idiots. I can't come on here and learn sh*t, lol. Back on SOHH, dudes would put you on to sh*t you may not have heard before. So we spent a lot of time throwing music back and forth. Debating what's dope and building our little music libraries. We don’t get anything out of this now. It's literally like watching one long ass episode of Love and Hip Hop. Not only do these "fans" not know sh*t about music, but they don’t want to know. And would rather boost nonsense than actually build on music.

Sh*t is crazy.
 

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Nah, all you fossils need to die. Old heads ruined this planet and left us to fix shyt and fend for ourselves, then we stuck you in retirement homes and now you bitter and waving your fists at the passing cars through the screen door. Sit down on that bench and feed the birds old man :pachaha:

Eat a d*ck.

You're older than most of us on here, pretending to be 20 years younger to validate your sorry ass life. You ain't fooling nobody, Tito.
 

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Only NY can save Hip hop now.

That would be dope to see, but all the NY legends jumped ship.

The mad successful ones moved to Cali. And the other mildly successful ones moved to ATL, NC or Florida. So they get mad at the music the new generation is making here, but ain't nobody left for them to learn from. So they're trying to take sounds from other regions because the OG's are all gone. In the 90's, everyone was still here, so there was a lot of torch passing. The new artists don’t have anyone to learn from anymore.
 

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Eat a d*ck.

You're older than most of us on here, pretending to be 20 years younger to validate your sorry ass life. You ain't fooling nobody, Tito.

Like I said, feed the birds old man. You gonna disintegrate soon enough whether you like it or not, but you chosing to be salty until it happens. That's on you.
 

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Like I said, feed the birds old man. You gonna disintegrate soon enough whether you like it or not, but you chosing to be salty until it happens. That's on you.

You're still waking up as a bum in the morning.

Hopping in this thread to air out your little grievances ain't gonna change that. I feel sorry for you.
 

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You're still waking up as a bum in the morning.

Hopping in this thread to air out your little grievances ain't gonna change that. I feel sorry for you.

Everything you saying is made up in that CTE mind of yours. You literally made this thread whining like an old bytch. I guess you gonna die how you lived :umad:


Now go argue alone with the birds on ignore :heh:
 
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