Hip-hop demise fact #54325.

[Big Mel]

Im confused by this, those are 3 very different communities for one and for two, what did they say?

They aren't all that different. To split hairs over beat driven, gay friendly, druggie dance music is futile.


Bicker about what makes one DJ/producerbdriven dance genre different from another if you'd like though.

 

[Cole Cash]

They aren't all that different. To split hairs over beat driven, gay friendly, drug music is futile.


Bicker about what makes one DJ/product driven dance genre different from another if you'd like though.

i come from the jungle community so i disagree with whatever sentiment youre pushing here.

i asked you what they are "saying" or "used to say". I asked this because i wondered why youd say it in the first place.

and yes, the trance, house, techno and jungle scenes are very very different, its very divided to say the least.

 

[Hussein Fonzarelli]

I agree with you 100%. I was just thinking to myself today that most producers ain't really getting the credit they deserve in the media. Imagine oj da juice mane rapping with no beat, that shyt would not fly for one second.

That's exactly what I'm saying.


Gucci Mane would be wack, broke and ice-cream-cone-tattooless if there wasn't for Zay and all them fukks who gave him those beats.

You can one star this thread, undap me, whatever yall want. fukking truth remains - in this day n fukkin age, it's 100% straight style over substance.

And in hip-hop terms, style over substance = "beats over rhymes"

And that's why more and more of these rappers (which I consider a highly derogatory term now, slur even...if someone called me a rapper I would stab him in the neck) Dr. Seuss with it, nobody cares, because - beats banging.

2012 - style (or swag, for all you washed up fukkboys) over substance - beats over rhymes.

RIP hip-hop and my condolences to all those "believers" who'll still go online shyt about "how there's good hip-hop to be found"...fukk outta here I aint trying to "look" for good hip-hop.

 

[Big Mel]

i come from the jungle community so i disagree with whatever sentiment youre pushing here.

i asked you what they are "saying" or "used to say". I asked this because i wondered why youd say it in the first place.

and yes, the trance, house, techno and jungle scenes are very very different, its very divided to say the least.

They used to lose themselves in the beat. I'd sell drugs to these kids. Bunch of fukkng dancing fiends. Take a drug...listen to a wordless, droning, pulsating rhythm. Whether a wailing, angelic voice or gay black singer is peppering the shytty music is of little consequence to me.


Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[wutang512]

And in hip-hop terms, style over substance = "beats over rhymes"

And that's why more and more of these rappers (which I consider a highly derogatory term now, slur even...if someone called me a rapper I would stab him in the neck) Dr. Seuss with it, nobody cares, because - beats banging.

2012 - style (or swag, for all you washed up fukkboys) over substance - beats over rhymes.

.

Its been like that for about 5yrs plus man.

I see it like this though... you give these lyrical dudes the same beats that Gucci, waka, jeezy, Juicy J, and whatever else sub par rapper receives and I bet you people would consider that Lyrical rapper(Canibus for example) the greatest rapper alive or top 10 of all time.

 

[Born2BKing]

production today is wacker than its ever been. that is not even debatable. so what the fukk are u talking about?

 

[Bean]

 

[Hussein Fonzarelli]

What? You fukker mean to tell me that this shyt



would receive the same amount of dikk-ridage if there wasn't for this particular beat?


[Killa] the fukk outta heaaaaa [/Killa]

 

[swerve]

What? You fukker mean to tell me that this shyt

HYFR (Hell Ya fukking Right) (Explicit) - YouTube

would receive the same amount of dikk-ridage if there wasn't for this particular beat?


[Killa] the fukk outta heaaaaa [/Killa]

leavy HYFR alone

 

[HoLLaBaCK]

I agree with the OP's Hip-Hop is currently being carried production. That not to say beats from the past weren't banging. I just think that the lyrics took your attention away from the production, the beats was the backdrop for the MC now its the main attraction.

I said in another thread with all the **** going on in this country the fact that we dont have a rapper or a group addressing **** of substance is crazy to me.

 

[director_of_bands]

I agree with the OP's Hip-Hop is currently being carried production. That not to say beats from the past weren't banging. I just think that the lyrics took your attention away from the production, the beats was the backdrop for the MC now its the main attraction.

I said in another thread with all the **** going on in this country the fact that we dont have a rapper or a group addressing **** of substance is crazy to me.

if you understood the agenda behind current hip hop then this fact wouldn't seem so crazy...there's no point in looking for mainstream hiphop with substance because the "powers that be" (aka Drake's relatives) would never allow this to happen...remember when they deemed Little Brother and others to be too intelligent for the mainstream audience? - im just sayin

 

[Pool_Shark]

Beats have definitely evolved in a good direction. You guys are saying 2Chainz or Ross would be wack without those beats. The beats would be wack without the 2Chainz or Ross spitting on them.

They go hand in hand and you can never seperate the MC from the beat. Canibus or Common can't hop on a Luger beat and make you feel the same.

 

[Hussein Fonzarelli]

I said in another thread with all the **** going on in this country the fact that we dont have a rapper or a group addressing **** of substance is crazy to me.

5 star 1000 daps


This is actually stupifying. They got all these backpacking idiots talkmbout "oh hip-hop is not just music, its culture, its movement".....


B!TCH



Shut the fukk up.......movement about what? Poppin bottles and simpin strippers?


Hip-hop is a fukkin joke.

 

[jalamanta]

Beats have definitely evolved in a good direction. You guys are saying 2Chainz or Ross would be wack without those beats. The beats would be wack without the 2Chainz or Ross spitting on them.

They go hand in hand and you can never seperate the MC from the beat. Canibus or Common can't hop on a Luger beat and make you feel the same.

Jay-Z can hop on any beat and destroy it

 

[AMcV'88]

the beat will always be the most important thing.
you need that good backdrop... what you chose to put over it and how you do it is what can fukk it up.