Hillary to Black Lives Matter "Get an agenda"

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I'm sorry but most of these young #BLM members or whatever don't seem to have a good grasp of the history of going against the devils. It seems like they were just on social networking, got mad about police brutality (which they should be) and just started chanting and retweeting. They haven't researched deeper on black plight or even laid out a blueprint to fight the issues that they have. You can't try to be the face of the struggle when you're getting funded by whites and can't even articulate your demands/issues to the person who is likely to become the next president. From this video to the video of those two chicks screaming on Sanders, these are definitely not the people we want representing us. If you can't even lay out of a short list of what your organization wants or demands, and can't do nothing but curse/yell, how would you deal with conintel pro? :heh:
 

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HiLLary should have set-up an Agenda for her classified Emails, first:usure::ufdup::mjpls:
 

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Do friends know what they want?

They want crooked cops to be held accountable for bad shootings.

That means, in the demonic realm, someone needs to get paid Because demons don't do good because it's the right thing to do. Every good done by filth was an incentive.

Black lives matter is a slogan not a movement. Slogans don't make demons say o wow you have a point to there my bad I'll stop being demonic. :snoop:

It's so demonic, friends. :sitdown:
 

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No, politics work great for groups that are politically xenophobic and economically organized. Blacks don't fit into either category, so they continually get f#cked.

Politics work for groups that have a set agenda that is crafted for their group and their group alone. Blacks fail on this one because black public figures don't even like saying the word "black." They like talking in ambiguous terms like minorities, people of color, poor people, etc. That language serves no one, but it damn sure doesn't serve black people.

Also, blacks want to participate but not compensate. Politics is based on capital and quid pro quo. That means politicians are bought like any other commodity. You have an agenda, you find a politician to push that agenda and then you pay said politician via "political donations." It's really that simple. You buy politicians like you buy food, clothes and cars.

Blacks want to vote because it's free, but politics DO NOT work without payola. Unless blacks come up with a national agenda and fund it, politics are of no use to the black population.

Peace
 

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I'm sorry but most of these young #BLM members or whatever don't seem to have a good grasp of the history of going against the devils. It seems like they were just on social networking, got mad about police brutality (which they should be) and just started chanting and retweeting. They haven't researched deeper on black plight or even laid out a blueprint to fight the issues that they have. You can't try to be the face of the struggle when you're getting funded by whites and can't even articulate your demands/issues to the person who is likely to become the next president. From this video to the video of those two chicks screaming on Sanders, these are definitely not the people we want representing us. If you can't even lay out of a short list of what your organization wants or demands, and can't do nothing but curse/yell, how would you deal with conintel pro? :heh:

What makes you think they're not cointelpro :mjpls:
 

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No, politics work great for groups that are politically xenophobic and economically organized. Blacks don't fit into either category, so they continually get f#cked.

Politics work for groups that have a set agenda that is crafted for their group and their group alone. Blacks fail on this one because black public figures don't even like saying the word "black." They like talking in ambiguous terms like minorities, people of color, poor people, etc. That language serves no one, but it damn sure doesn't serve black people.

Also, blacks want to participate but not compensate. Politics is based on capital and quid pro quo. That means politicians are bought like any other commodity. You have an agenda, you find a politician to push that agenda and then you pay said politician via "political donations." It's really that simple. You buy politicians like you buy food, clothes and cars.

Blacks want to vote because it's free, but politics DO NOT work without payola. Unless blacks come up with a national agenda and fund it, politics are of no use to the black population.

Peace

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No, politics work great for groups that are politically xenophobic and economically organized. Blacks don't fit into either category, so they continually get f#cked.

Politics work for groups that have a set agenda that is crafted for their group and their group alone. Blacks fail on this one because black public figures don't even like saying the word "black." They like talking in ambiguous terms like minorities, people of color, poor people, etc. That language serves no one, but it damn sure doesn't serve black people.

Also, blacks want to participate but not compensate. Politics is based on capital and quid pro quo. That means politicians are bought like any other commodity. You have an agenda, you find a politician to push that agenda and then you pay said politician via "political donations." It's really that simple. You buy politicians like you buy food, clothes and cars.

Blacks want to vote because it's free, but politics DO NOT work without payola. Unless blacks come up with a national agenda and fund it, politics are of no use to the black population.

Peace

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no, but elected officials are SUPPOSED to work for the people...they literally work for the people...and presidential candidates go from town to town saying "what are your issues" "i will address those issues by X" in order to earn a vote

hillary doesn't even feel the need to pretend to do that...its shameful


I think Hillary is/was keeping it real with them...

Elected officials are supposed to work for the people and that's true but "the people" is a broad catergory, because literally EVERYONE wants something but everyone is not going to get everything they want. What these politicians need us to do is be the clearest voice, not the loudest. For every BLM voice, there is a white opposing voice that wants something different and the harsh reality is there are more white people than blacks. We can't outloud them, we need to outwork them. If we put together the foundation of whatever policy we want, it makes it that much easier for them to implement them.

Because seriously, you can't expect a white person to think out, plan and fight for an issue like a black person would because its not their issue. They will never have the heart and drive to push it like we can. That's why regarding our issues, we have to do the lion's share of the work for it. And I wouldn't' want it any other way. I don't want a white person structuring a savior plan for us, our resolution needs to come directly from our own hands and minds.
 

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A SHORT FOLLOW-UP TO THE PREVIOUS POST ON BLACK LIVES MATTER.


I wish that I could find the words to describe how I feel right now. Maybe I will figure them out by the time you finish reading the following passage from Stephen Crockett’s story at The Root describing the meeting between Hillary Clinton and Black Lives Matter activists from Boston:

“Things took a turn when Clinton asked the activists to explain policy changes they wanted to see enacted.

‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, “If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.”‘ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.’

‘Respectfully,’ Clinton answered, ‘if that is your position, then I will only talk to white people about how we are going to deal with these very real problems.’

‘That’s not what I mean,’ Jones said. He added, ‘But what you just said was a form of victim-blaming. You were saying what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do to change white hearts is to …’

Clinton told them that she isn’t interested in changing hearts, but rather policy.

‘You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through that you might change some hearts,’ she said.

‘But if that’s all that happens,’ she continued, ‘we’ll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation because we will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.'”

I want you, the reader, to step back and think about the scenario that has unfolded in the preceding passage. These activists get a private hearing with a candidate who is, at the moment, the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination. Not only that, but this potential Democratic candidate leads polling aggregates against every potential Republican candidate for the general election as well, meaning that it is plausible that you are having a meeting with the next President of the United States. They get a very simple question, yet it is a question that most people working for social change would kill to get from such a high-profile political candidate:

“Well, the next question is, ‘So what do you want me to do about it?'”

The answer is so stupefying, yet so telling, that it bears repeating.

“‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, ‘If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.’ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.'”

The answer is impressive only in its ability to say absolutely nothing at all. No policy. Not even a nudge in a general direction towards something where a policy might be crafted.Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house faster than that statement could see any type of policy.

And not only that, but do you know what led into that garbled mess that you see above?

“THE PIECE THAT’S MOST IMPORTANT….”

….is, apparently, telling Hillary Clinton that there is nothing that they, Black Lives Matter, can do about any of this. No advocacy. No policy agenda. No concrete plan. Nothing. Asking them to have a plan or a policy agenda? That is….victim-blaming. I am not kidding; that is what happens on the video.



I have alternated this entire day between befuddlement, bewilderment, and other nouns used to describe an unyielding state of confusion.

Just off the top of my head, there are at least three things that they could have asked for: a guaranteed right to protest without fear of ending your demonstration with a criminal background, legislation that bars police officers from earning pay while an investigation into a police shooting is ongoing, and a national limit to the amount of money that cities can make off moving violations and parking violations. Would those be my top three issues for the Black working class were I to receive the same audience? Absolutely not. But my goodness, it would be something more concrete than a response full of Intro to Sociology-style ephemera.

And for a series of protests that handwaves about “accountability”, it would have been beneficial to make concrete demands with which you could actually hold this person, you know, accountable. But what they allowed Hillary Clinton to do was completely evade any discussion of things that might actually get done if she becomes president in favor of allowing her to school them about the most fundamental premise behind policymaking institutions, which is to make policy.

Because if policy change is not the goal of this group of activists, then I am honestly wondering what the hell we are all doing here.


A Short Follow-Up To The Previous Post on Black Lives Matter.

GODDAMN :damn::damn::damn::damn:
this fukking dumbass said "victim blaiming"...holeeee shyt.
 

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No, politics work great for groups that are politically xenophobic and economically organized. Blacks don't fit into either category, so they continually get f#cked.

Politics work for groups that have a set agenda that is crafted for their group and their group alone. Blacks fail on this one because black public figures don't even like saying the word "black." They like talking in ambiguous terms like minorities, people of color, poor people, etc. That language serves no one, but it damn sure doesn't serve black people.

Also, blacks want to participate but not compensate. Politics is based on capital and quid pro quo. That means politicians are bought like any other commodity. You have an agenda, you find a politician to push that agenda and then you pay said politician via "political donations." It's really that simple. You buy politicians like you buy food, clothes and cars.

Blacks want to vote because it's free, but politics DO NOT work without payola. Unless blacks come up with a national agenda and fund it, politics are of no use to the black population.

Peace
Damn preach....you have been dropping truth bombs.
 

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No, politics work great for groups that are politically xenophobic and economically organized. Blacks don't fit into either category, so they continually get f#cked.

Politics work for groups that have a set agenda that is crafted for their group and their group alone. Blacks fail on this one because black public figures don't even like saying the word "black." They like talking in ambiguous terms like minorities, people of color, poor people, etc. That language serves no one, but it damn sure doesn't serve black people.

Also, blacks want to participate but not compensate. Politics is based on capital and quid pro quo. That means politicians are bought like any other commodity. You have an agenda, you find a politician to push that agenda and then you pay said politician via "political donations." It's really that simple. You buy politicians like you buy food, clothes and cars.

Blacks want to vote because it's free, but politics DO NOT work without payola. Unless blacks come up with a national agenda and fund it, politics are of no use to the black population.

Peace
This.
 

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Does anybody find it strange that the women that actually started black lives matter are basically silent at this point. blacklivesmatter.com is still active but I never see the actual founders speak publicly ever. :jbhmm:
 
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