Highlights of NY gun control bill ( wait what ) ...

[daze23]

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Even if they did sell a registered firearm. What's to stop them from saying it was stolen?

well if they do that more than once, it should raise a red flag. if every time you buy a gun, it conveniently gets stolen, then obviously you are not being responsible with the weapon

just because there's ways around something, doesn't mean you shouldn't take steps to prevent it, or at least make it more difficult. the analogy I usually use is that you lock your car door, even though someone could just break your window

edit: it comes down to the question of if you want to do something, or nothing, to keep track of the guns out there. "nothing" means a free-market where anyone can buy and trade guns. I don't think many people want that

 

[Ian1362]

"The guns package was negotiated privately by the governor and legislative leaders over the last several weeks," The New York Times reports, "but was only completed late Monday," so "rank-and-file Senators had only a few minutes to read the legislation before voting on it."

GJ state, fukk you Cuomo

Such "unusual haste" (as the Times describes it) deviates from the normal rule, laid out in Article II, Section 14 of the New York Constitution, that at least three days must elapse between the introduction of a bill and a vote on it. The constitition allows an exception when the governor publicly explains "the facts which in his or her opinion necessitate an immediate vote." Here is Cuomo's explanation:



Some weapons are so dangerous, and some ammunition devices so lethal, that New York State must act without delay to prohibit their continued sale and possession in the state in order to protect its children, first responders and citizens as soon as possible. This bill, if enacted, would do so by immediately banning the ownership, purchase and sale of assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and eliminate them from commerce in New York State.

In other words, there was no time to consider whether magazines holding more than seven rounds or guns with certain arbitarily selected cosmetic features pose an intolerable threat to public safety, because these items pose an intolerable threat to public safety. Also, it's for the children!

 

[Type Username Here]

The funniest thing is that people can still keep their 30 round magazines, but now they can only load 7 rounds into it

Like some crazy nut like Lanza is going to give an absolute fukk to that mockery of a law.

 

[TruStyle]

Legislation rushed into law by the govt as the ppl are a asleep and get a chance to see it.


No one else is scared by that.



Guess not since ppl are cheering for this.

Well were safe now. This law should keep insane maniacs and outlaws in line. Rest easy friends

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I doubt even 1% of guns in criminals hands come from guns given to them or sold by an upstanding citizen lmao

Where Chicago's Guns Come From - Neighborhoods - The Atlantic Cities

The research shows that some 29 percent of the guns recovered on Chicago's streets between 2008 and the end of March were bought in the Cook County suburbs. Lake County, Ind., was the second largest source, accounting for 6 percent of the weapons, and other counties surrounding Chicago — including Lake County, Ill., and Will, DuPage and Kane counties — were also among the top 10 sources.

Two gun stores in suburban Lyons and Riverdale accounted for more than 10 percent of the guns recovered.

The 312 | Where Do Chicago's Guns Come From?

The gangs and other criminals also get weapons through barter, or "trade-ins." The gangs trade narcotics for the guns of drug-addicted burglars, who will sell a $500 pistol for less than $100.

"We get half our guns through trade-ins with dope fiends," said a gang member on the South Side. "If you wanted a gun right now, we could put in an order and you'd have it. It's like going through the drive-through window. 'Give me some fries, a Coke and a 9-millimeter.' "

Terry spoke to one gang leader who got his first gun from a drug addict, had just bought 27 guns an addict stole from a retired police officer's house, and regularly went to gun shows to buy and then resell at a substantial profit on the black market—a combination of the many ways guns are exchanged in the city.

Chicago gangs don

But the truth is most guns recovered in crimes here were originally bought in Illinois.

More specifically, in Cook County.

And the No. 1 supplier of those weapons is just a short drive from Chicago, Chuck’s Gun Store in south suburban Riverdale.

From 2008 to March 2012, the police successfully traced the ownership of 1,375 guns recovered in crimes in Chicago within a year of their purchase.

Of those guns, 268 were bought at Chuck’s — nearly one in five.

BIG BOOT, FACT DROP, 1, 2, 3 BROTHER!

 

[88m3]

Did they pick the number seven out of a hat?


Worthless teethless law

 

[TruStyle]

Where Chicago's Guns Come From - Neighborhoods - The Atlantic Cities



The 312 | Where Do Chicago's Guns Come From?



Chicago gangs don



BIG BOOT, FACT DROP, 1, 2, 3 BROTHER!

You still using this hogan alias charmander?

 

[newarkhiphop]

You still using this hogan alias charmander?

 

[Mowgli]

In cali you have to get fingerprinted to buy ammo. Go to montana you can buy boxes of bullets like candy. shyts crazy.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

What a bunch of bullshyt

 

[Gang$tarr]

Where Chicago's Guns Come From - Neighborhoods - The Atlantic Cities



The 312 | Where Do Chicago's Guns Come From?



Chicago gangs don



BIG BOOT, FACT DROP, 1, 2, 3 BROTHER!

You just proved my point brother

The crackheads break and enter and steal shyt in the suburbs

So there should be a law about locking your guns up. A registry doesn't change shyt.

well if they do that more than once, it should raise a red flag. if every time you buy a gun, it conveniently gets stolen, then obviously you are not being responsible with the weapon

just because there's ways around something, doesn't mean you shouldn't take steps to prevent it, or at least make it more difficult. the analogy I usually use is that you lock your car door, even though someone could just break your window

edit: it comes down to the question of if you want to do something, or nothing, to keep track of the guns out there. "nothing" means a free-market where anyone can buy and trade guns. I don't think many people want that

A registry doesn't stop any of that it just puts a strain on your economy like the war on drugs

When shyt goes down they can track down who the gun was sold to anyway through the serial # and police work. There's no need to have every citizen register their gun.

 

[daze23]

A registry doesn't stop any of that it just puts a strain on your economy like the war on drugs

When shyt goes down they can track down who the gun was sold to anyway through the serial # and police work. There's no need to have every citizen register their gun.

they can track the serial number because it's registered

 

[Gang$tarr]

they can track the serial number because it's registered

Naw breh... Good old fashion police work

You can see where any gun was sold through the serial # on the gun. You check with the store who bought it. You check with that person if they have it or what they did with it and so on. Simple shyt.


Registry for the entire non-criminal population = pointless

 

[daze23]

Naw breh... Good old fashion police work

You can see where any gun was sold through the serial # on the gun. You check with the store who bought it. You check with that person if they have it or what they did with it and so on. Simple shyt.

Registry for the entire non-criminal population = pointless

how would the store know who they sold it to if it was never registered?

 

[Gang$tarr]

how would the store know who they sold it to if it was never registered?

Where can you buy a gun with zero paperwork and/or I.D.?