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[Dog Based Gremlin]

Punk and Cena having a great match at SS to decide a unified champion, only for fukking Nash to come and powerbomb him so ADR can claim the title and Punk getting marred in Kliq fukkery with Nash texting himself. Punk doing the damn thing with the belt and being the hottest act was axed so Trips and Nash can show who's in charge in front of the camera and behind the scenes and shoot on Punk for no reason other than the fact that he shoots on people. They're fukking 50 years old, no reason to shoot on the hottest act at the time then regaining the title and this reign not having any heat disproves your whole point breh.

And Dbry losing his title in 18 seconds because Trips is still about that Warrior WM match then getting bogged down in a comedy tag team that's spinning it's wheels is They're over but that title don't mean shyt and who knows if he'll be a major player after it's done

And when the fukk are the Shield going to have some fukking matches? Their run ins were cool the first two weeks but fukk it's been three damn months.


Only one of the Indy standouts they're doing right by is Cesaro at the moment but we'll see where he is after he drops the title.

Company's in the same place it's been in the past 5 years with less ratings and a couple of good matches every week but it's all good because HHH is here to save us, gimme a fukking break

that nikka Bob hit on so many points

 

[The Electric Lady]

Goddamn bob you made me depressed

 

[DANJ!]

Punk and Cena having a great match at SS to decide a unified champion, only for fukking Nash to come and powerbomb him so ADR can claim the title and Punk getting marred in Kliq fukkery with Nash texting himself. Punk doing the damn thing with the belt and being the hottest act was axed so Trips and Nash can show who's in charge in front of the camera and behind the scenes and shoot on Punk for no reason other than the fact that he shoots on people. They're fukking 50 years old, no reason to shoot on the hottest act at the time then regaining the title and this reign not having any heat disproves your whole point breh.

It was a dumb idea to do all of that, esp. since it seems they could've left Punk out of the HHH/Nash shyt altogether if they just wanted to do a feud. I'll agree on that. And STILL, a year later, Punk has gone over damn near everyone in the company that matters AND some who don't, held the title longer than anyone since Hogan, and gotten every bit of exposure/spotlight that his dedicated fans swore he never would. He was out of that HHH/Nash shyt within a month, and been rollin' ever since... sooooo...

And Dbry losing his title in 18 seconds because Trips is still about that Warrior WM match then getting bogged down in a comedy tag team that's spinning it's wheels is They're over but that title don't mean shyt and who knows if he'll be a major player after it's done

Oh yeah... that's definitely why Bryan lost the title like that. A match HHH lost at WrestleMania 12 that most people don't even remember.

And far as him being 'bogged down in a comedy tag team'... bruh... in 2012, Bryan was one of the most popular wrestlers in the whole company, partly due to the tag team. WAY more over than he was in 2011, and CONSISTENTLY being featured in main storylines. I find it hard to feel bad for him, and I doubt he's feelin' any resentment about it either.

And when the fukk are the Shield going to have some fukking matches? Their run ins were cool the first two weeks but fukk it's been three damn months.

Only one of the Indy standouts they're doing right by is Cesaro at the moment but we'll see where he is after he drops the title.

Company's in the same place it's been in the past 5 years with less ratings and a couple of good matches every week but it's all good because HHH is here to save us, gimme a fukking break

I dunno what to tell you bruh... maybe I'm just too old of a wrestling fan or somethin'. Because with these people such as Bryan, Cesaro, Ambrose, etc. (and Punk until recently)... their fans seem to have a sense of entitlement that they themselves probably don't even have. And it's gotten so bad that they can't even get a push or a title without people still complaining or having conspiracy theories about what might happen to them six months down the line. It's just weird to me. Maybe it's cause I remember when just being a good wrestler didn't mean someone could just show up and get the world handed to them soon as they debuted. Muhfukkas like Bret Hart, Michaels, Austin, Foley, etc. had to work for theirs and go thru years of being built up, winning, losing, maybe even get saddled with a weak storyline or two... but when they got there, they were over as fukk because they deserved it. Now, a muhfukka debuts on TV and six months later the internet is cause they're not main eventing, or cause they lost a match to Cena, or cause they don't have enough clean wins. That's why I can't get this whole "HHH is the evil plague that will destroy these mens' careers" mentality when not one of 'em seem to be suffering at all.

 

[StatUS]

It was a dumb idea to do all of that, esp. since it seems they could've left Punk out of the HHH/Nash shyt altogether if they just wanted to do a feud. I'll agree on that. And STILL, a year later, Punk has gone over damn near everyone in the company that matters AND some who don't, held the title longer than anyone since Hogan, and gotten every bit of exposure/spotlight that his dedicated fans swore he never would. He was out of that HHH/Nash shyt within a month, and been rollin' ever since... sooooo...

That whole Kliq vs Punk feud stalled his momentum. You got Nash out there who has never cared about anything but himself to try to bury Punk on the mic for no reason but to satisfy that "reality era" that the IWC coined. Like bringing in Kev was something we wanted to see

Then HHH decides to top it off and beats Punk in a one off match to prove who's really the man in the company.

It was one of the worst booked periods in wrestling history just because it could have sparked something...anything, but once again the Kliq isn't about anything if it ain't about them.

I mean I couldn't even imagine them just burying Austin like when he started to spark something.

It made no sense at all and anything Punk's done since then the E has made sure that people don't see him on the same level as HHH/Cena/Taker. Or when they do put him on that level he's a heel and there's no draw in that.

 

[DANJ!]

Bruh... the reason Punk was never able to be THAT top guy is because he couldn't get out from under Cena. THAT's the shyt that prevented him from being the top face when he surely could've been. Every PPV, this dude had to play the back to whatever Cena's match was. Mania was understandable cause Cena/Rock was a big marquee match. Even Cena/Lesnar cause it was Brock's return. But Cena/Kane in an ambulance match, Cena & Big Show, even Cena & fukkin' John Laurinaitis... that pushed Punk back way more than some one month shyt between him, HHH, and Nash. Nash was useless and that whole deal was a waste... but Punk was out of that in a month. That's nothing compared to 7 months of playing second to Cena vs. whoever. After all that, turning heel was prob. the best thing he could've done to be seen as a real main eventer. That Vince & co. John Cena obsession is a much bigger issue than a Kliq that doesn't even actively wrestle anymore, cause it seems like the only way to main event is to go against him.

 

[StatUS]

I said all that. But it can't be glossed over that the hottest act they've had in years was put into a match with a part-timer, squashed, and got zero payback for it.

There's no defending that at all. That was the start of Punk's "downfall."

 

[DANJ!]

I said all that. But it can't be glossed over that the hottest act they've had in years was put into a match with a part-timer, squashed, and got zero payback for it.

There's no defending that at all. That was the start of Punk's "downfall."

I'm glad you put downfall in quotations cause like I said... wrasslin' fans in 2013 got some very broad descriptions of certain things. Punk ain't exactly livin' the Jack Swagger life right now so I wouldn't feel too bad for him.

But you might as well have put squashed in quotations too, cause I don't call losing a competitive 20-min. match getting squashed. I'm not even defending the HHH shyt, to be honest. That storyline ended up getting real ridiculous and long winded, especially with the walk-out and all that bullshyt. That being said, Punk coulda bounced back from losing a match, because everybody, even the hot new star, loses a match sometimes. Rock was on fire in '99 and he got his ass whooped by fukkin' Hardcore and Crash Holly, and he still managed to lose no ground. Steve Austin never got any wins back on Bret Hart and it didn't hurt him a bit. It's the writing and booking that kept Punk at #2 face while Cena got repeatedly put ahead of him that pushed him back. Nothing more, nothing less. You can't be the #1 guy when they got their "face of the company" wrestling every PPV main event no matter if the match is against Laurinaitis, Curt Hawkins, Hunico, or whoever the fukk else they put him with.

 

[StatUS]

I'm glad you put downfall in quotations cause like I said... wrasslin' fans in 2013 got some very broad descriptions of certain things. Punk ain't exactly livin' the Jack Swagger life right now so I wouldn't feel too bad for him.

But you might as well have put squashed in quotations too, cause I don't call losing a competitive 20-min. match getting squashed. I'm not even defending the HHH shyt, to be honest. That storyline ended up getting real ridiculous and long winded, especially with the walk-out and all that bullshyt. That being said, Punk coulda bounced back from losing a match, because everybody, even the hot new star, loses a match sometimes. Rock was on fire in '99 and he got his ass whooped by fukkin' Hardcore and Crash Holly, and he still managed to lose no ground. Steve Austin never got any wins back on Bret Hart and it didn't hurt him a bit. It's the writing and booking that kept Punk at #2 face while Cena got repeatedly put ahead of him that pushed him back. Nothing more, nothing less. You can't be the #1 guy when they got their "face of the company" wrestling every PPV main event no matter if the match is against Laurinaitis, Curt Hawkins, Hunico, or whoever the fukk else they put him with.

He's still making millions of dollars like everyone else in the E but they shot themselves in the foot with that whole deal. It was a squash because there was no protection given to Punk in that match. No interference, no dusty finish, just a clean pedigree and nothing to speak for it after that.

Look at it from a casual point of view. You see this guy being built up as the next big thing ready to take on HHH. Then you tune in on Raw and see that he couldn't even beat a part timer. What's the point of getting behind something like that for something bigger? Even when Austin and Rock lost they were atleast protected or they were heels or something.

The worst part is you had people defending it at the time talking about "well they got more plans for this." Even Punk said this. But nothing happened and after that Punk went from a cool anti-hero to a fighting babyface. And we already know Cena couldn't really move the needle with that.

 

[Tryna Makit]

Never mind what you heard, wrestling is not dead.Change gone come, like Barack said.-Jadakiss

 

[Sierra Mist]

Say what you want about HHH but the man knows what the fukk he's doing. #Kliq

 

[The Push Man]

It was a squash because there was no protection given to Punk in that match. No interference, no dusty finish, just a clean pedigree and nothing to speak for it after that.

There was interference from Miz/Truth/Nash. He took Truth's finish, a jacknife and 3 pedigrees, kicking out of 2. I agree in general about 'Haitch going over but factor in the referee nonsense, Johnny Ace along with the three lads and that was a fukk finish up there with the best of 'em.

 

[DANJ!]

There was interference from Miz/Truth/Nash. He took Truth's finish, a jacknife and 3 pedigrees, kicking out of 2. I agree in general about 'Haitch going over but factor in the referee nonsense, Johnny Ace along with the three lads and that was a fukk finish up there with the best of 'em.

Exactly. Thank you, fella.

That shyt sure as hell wasn't no clean finish, and it def. wasn't a squash. People just didn't like who won the match... and honestly, even if it was the other way around and it was H who took Truth's move, a jacknife, and 3 GTS's, nikkas still woulda complained cause it wasn't CLEAN! Then it woulda been "yeah Punk won but look at how much H had to take just to lose the match." Tell me I'm wrong.

 

[StatUS]

There was interference from Miz/Truth/Nash. He took Truth's finish, a jacknife and 3 pedigrees, kicking out of 2. I agree in general about 'Haitch going over but factor in the referee nonsense, Johnny Ace along with the three lads and that was a fukk finish up there with the best of 'em.

You actually remembered that? I thought I could let that part skate by cause it was late

Cause that made him look even worse cause Trips took the same finishers, then knocked out Nash, then took care of Punk.

And Punk still got zero payback.

 

[The Push Man]

You actually remembered that?

fukk no, I checked the observer.

 

[StatUS]

I was trying to paint that whole night as a classic Trips squash. All my fun was ruined props for keeping shyt in check


Anyway, point is I don't trust dude. If he can't even do right when something hot is right in his face (Punk, Orton) then I can't see him doing much with these indy kids just because some dirt sheet says that's the plan.

Kliq in the head position has never done well. Can he do better? We'll see.