Heaven is real, says neurosurgeon who claims to have visited tha afterlife

[rapbeats]

That's why atheists ask questions about god. Because religious people don't.

Religion teaches you NOT to think, just believe without asking questions.

#criticalthinking

wrong and kon, undap this dude.

some people's leadership FAIL to explain things to their congregation. some leadership dont know how to explain it to them to be honest.

sure you have some folks that dont want to even have a discussion. thats not all. i'm in here right now. been in SOHH riding. but at the same token there is a point where you have to stop the dialogue. because the truth is. God himself cant be proven or disproven. now lets assume for argument sake the God of the christian bible is legit. and therefore everything we know he created which is therefore apart of him.
that means everything science has ever measured they were actually measuring God himself. this is why the discussion can get to a point where both sides will not be able to go any further. because something like that cant be explained scientifically until its all said and done, and we're looking at the big guy face to face. then and only then will we be able to say. "SEE here he is." because if i pick up an ant and say here he is. you will call me crazy. if i tell you to look in the mirror and say there he is. you will call me crazy.

truth is the only tool that can be used to TEST God's existence is the bible. you have to use that to test his existence. shoot, he says test me himself in there. test to see if the prophecies have come true after they have come and gone. again if you see them come and go. you cant deny that you saw what you saw. if you do that. then his words can never be tested accurately.

 

[The Real]

if you consider it supernatural, maybe. theres nothing supernatural about what i believe in

you've all made up your minds already, and by being closeminded you are not able to appreciate what im speaking about, and i say that with no malice

Ok, but that's just semantics, isn't it? My point still stands- you just said you had an experience you couldn't explain, and then immediately attributed it to some kind of spiritual entity or whatever you believe in. I'm saying that doesn't make sense.

 

[rapbeats]

The whole concept behind heaven and hell is ridiculous.

Worship me or else burn in hell forever!!

Is god so insecure that he requires the admiration of his creation to feel validated?

lets see, Do you call it insecurities when you're parents request that you do what you were taught(do what you were told)?

part of worshipping God is to do what he has taught/told you in his book. your parents give you a law to abide by. they want you to abide by that law. when you do. you are showing reverence for them and their words. You trust them and their words. when you dont obey you are showing the opposite. that you dont NEED Them. and that their teachings are of no use to you.

the problem with that way of thinking is that. God was here before you got here. he made YOU. not the other way around. therefore he Would know whats best for you. not YOU. just like your parents would have a better idea of whats best for their young child then the child would.

Do your parents say "tell me you love me" or "I love you" and wait for you to say it back? Do your parents hug you and wait for you to hug them back?

well guess what. God is your father. he wants the same thing. where do you think you got that desire from as a human. to be loved. from him. for whatever reason he desires to be loved by things he has created. you call that insecurity i call it LIFE.

Raise your hand if you dont want to be loved by anyone/thing (dogs and cats count too). exactly. no one in their right mind would raise their hands to something that ridiculous. but since God wants to be loved, he's all of a sudden insecure. L o L on that one.

If you were about to die in a burning car and I saved you. you would probably say "Thank you thank you thank you rapbeats for saving me.. man you saved my life."

well God is sitting there like uhhh you know i just saved your soul by sacrificing my Son right?

Christ is like, you know i just helped saved your soul by dying on that cross for all of your sins.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

Ok, but that's just semantics, isn't it? My point still stands- you just said you had an experience you couldn't explain, and then immediately attributed it to some kind of spiritual entity or whatever you believe in. I'm saying that doesn't make sense.

im saying i felt\SEEN things at play i couldn't explain why. it didnt wake me up to heaven in the sky all my ancestors playing pool or a fire below us with half my other ancestors burning, it just made me open to things that most of you would write off as silly because youve made up yours minds that everything can be explained through scientific means or not at all (which isnt smart science to start with if you wanna go through history). dudes in here pumping up dmt as be all end all reason for visions and the sort. have any of you actually even touched dmt outside of a dream or did yall just read about it ?

i really dont wish to share my experience with yall but ill tell you theres not a single way it could be explained. From it i tried to gather a higher understanding of what was happening around me and yes, it broke my atheist views forever and ever. Is it god?energy?spirits?idk... but its something. something ive seen people in this forum and flabby and sick.com discredit for years in the name of "logic"...

logic...lol

 

[88m3]

It's simple. The brain activity is too low to be detected by the technology we currently have. We already know for a fact that brain activity can be present at low enough levels to be undetectable by our current instruments. A person's EEG can be flat, but that doesn't mean there are no neurons firing, etc. In other words, you lost. Try again.

But for how long will neurons continue to fire after your blood no longer pumps?

 

[Mowgli]

you say that as if "believers" have some better understanding because they read out of a book of fairytales

They do. I guess you're too stupid to believe it.

 

[Mowgli]

But for how long will neurons continue to fire after your blood no longer pumps?

He dont know. "well neurons have been shown 2 have a half life of...." shut the fukk up fakkit.

 

[A-Train]

you don't go to heaven when you die so even biblically this is...silly or "unexplained" at best.

We don't get into heaven until after the final judgment...so ...yeah....

 

[The Real]

But for how long will neurons continue to fire after your blood no longer pumps?

Good question. As I understand it, the neurons themselves are alive for a few hours after the heart stops (if that's how the death occurs,) but it's unclear how long they continue to fire at that time because of how low the activity drops. It is possible to artificially stimulate them during that period, though, and through that have them fire as they would otherwise. Nowadays they have artificial environments similar to the human brain, and have succeeded at keeping transplanted neurons alive in them for up to a few weeks, but not more than that. Basically, you have the same problems as with all general cell death.

He dont know. "well n
eurons have been shown 2 have a half life of...." shut the fukk up fakkit.

Try and keep up.

This dude said "half life."

 

[88m3]

Good question. As I understand it, the neurons themselves are alive for a few hours after the heart stops (if that's how the death occurs,) but it's unclear how long they continue to fire at that time because of how low the activity drops. It is possible to artificially stimulate them during that period, though, and through that have them fire as they would otherwise. Nowadays they have artificial environments similar to the human brain, and have succeeded at keeping transplanted neurons alive in them for up to a few weeks, but not more than that. Basically, you have the same problems as with all general cell death.

So I can't dream indefinitely.

 

[Mowgli]

They dont know. What happens to the atoms that make up your body chemistry when you die? Them shyts done just become nothing. Scientists cant put themselves in the perspective of an atom.

 

[the cac mamba]

They do. I guess you're too stupid to believe it.

how can they have a better understanding when there are a thousand different books and interpretations? arent most of them understanding the wrong thing?

if i were to say that youre stupid because you dont follow the teachings of the god of the mayans who needed human sacrifice to make it rain for the crops, that would be an equally valid statement

 

[Bud Bundy]

They dont know. What happens to the atoms that make up your body chemistry when you die? Them shyts done just become nothing. Scientists cant put themselves in the perspective of an atom.

they break down and decay. It is energy that helps them live that keeps getting transferred.

 

[Huellz Santana]

look.. lets be honest, neither side knows if it exists. y? because we're all still living. whats the point in arguing?

i believe in heaven because I'm a Christian and the biggest component is FAITH. that's the whole point, you're not supposed to know for sure what's going to happen. if you did that would change your motives and actions.​

 

[ecks12]

look.. lets be honest, neither side knows if it exists. y? because we're all still living. whats the point in arguing?

i believe in heaven because I'm a Christian and the biggest component is FAITH. that's the whole point, you're not supposed to know for sure what's going to happen. if you did that would change your motives and actions.​

That's kinda where I'm at now. I'm more of an atheist than anything, but I believe that nobody really knows anything, and we will find out after we die.