Elim Garak
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He would have done well in wcw lol but he might have joined the nwo much earlier lol.
HBK almost jumped to WCW
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Might be in the minority here but I think if HBK did leave in 1997, Triple H's push would have come sooner.
NYChase718
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During this week's episode of the 83 Weeks Podcast, Eric Bischoff talked about Halloween Havoc 1993. On the show, he also talked about Shawn Michaels becoming available that year for WCW to bring in from WWE. Bischoff mentioned how much interest the company had in Michaels and why they never ended up bringing him in.
"None," Bischoff said regarding interest in bringing Shawn Michaels to WCW. "Shawn had a reputation as being difficult to work with and a little bit like Chris Jericho: a prima donna. When you reach a certain level of success, there's a tendency to become prima donna-esc and I think that was Shawn Michaels reputation. I don't remember anybody even suggesting for a minute to bring Shawn in."
"I like Shawn Michaels. We get along just fine and I have a ton of respect for him. I think Shawn would say during this period of time he was distracted by bad habits and probably wasn't at the top of his game mentally or emotionally. WCW in 1993 didn't have a lot of cash laying around. WCW was broken in 1993, we were coming off of a lot of transitions and I hadn't gotten my feet underneath me yet. There was nobody that was willing to throw a lot of money at anybody at that point."
Bischoff continued on to mention a comment made by Bret Hart where he said that year all of the guys in WCW are "all obviously drug users." He said he wasn't surprised by the comment and that Hart is always negative.
"Typical of Bret Hart then and now," Bischoff said. "If Bret doesn't have somebody to bury, criticize or blame, he can't really have much of a conversation. It didn't resonate with me. I think partially because I don't know, WWE, Vince McMahon, federal court, indicted, drug distribution?
"I think Bret was probably trying to clear the smoke in his own room and creating it in somebody else's. That's just Bret. I don't mean to say anything bad about anybody, but Bret tends to be a whiny bi***. It is what it is."
Bischoff also talked about seeing Bret recently and what their conversation was like. He said Hart can't let anything go and hasn't changed since 1993.
"Last time I saw Bret I said I'm going to take the high road, and he continues to just rehash all his negative nonsense and burying people," Bischoff said. "It doesn't make me angry, that's just Bret. Whether he's burying Ric Flair, Mick Foley, Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff, Bill Goldberg, he's just a negative miserable guy. That's how he goes through his daily life. He was doing it in 1993 and he's still doing it today."
"None," Bischoff said regarding interest in bringing Shawn Michaels to WCW. "Shawn had a reputation as being difficult to work with and a little bit like Chris Jericho: a prima donna. When you reach a certain level of success, there's a tendency to become prima donna-esc and I think that was Shawn Michaels reputation. I don't remember anybody even suggesting for a minute to bring Shawn in."
"I like Shawn Michaels. We get along just fine and I have a ton of respect for him. I think Shawn would say during this period of time he was distracted by bad habits and probably wasn't at the top of his game mentally or emotionally. WCW in 1993 didn't have a lot of cash laying around. WCW was broken in 1993, we were coming off of a lot of transitions and I hadn't gotten my feet underneath me yet. There was nobody that was willing to throw a lot of money at anybody at that point."
Bischoff continued on to mention a comment made by Bret Hart where he said that year all of the guys in WCW are "all obviously drug users." He said he wasn't surprised by the comment and that Hart is always negative.
"Typical of Bret Hart then and now," Bischoff said. "If Bret doesn't have somebody to bury, criticize or blame, he can't really have much of a conversation. It didn't resonate with me. I think partially because I don't know, WWE, Vince McMahon, federal court, indicted, drug distribution?
"I think Bret was probably trying to clear the smoke in his own room and creating it in somebody else's. That's just Bret. I don't mean to say anything bad about anybody, but Bret tends to be a whiny bi***. It is what it is."
Bischoff also talked about seeing Bret recently and what their conversation was like. He said Hart can't let anything go and hasn't changed since 1993.
"Last time I saw Bret I said I'm going to take the high road, and he continues to just rehash all his negative nonsense and burying people," Bischoff said. "It doesn't make me angry, that's just Bret. Whether he's burying Ric Flair, Mick Foley, Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff, Bill Goldberg, he's just a negative miserable guy. That's how he goes through his daily life. He was doing it in 1993 and he's still doing it today."
Tommy Lee Jones
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I heard Brett in some interview say he smoked weed back then.
Naaa it was the road schedule, travel, and pay. Dudes had to work or they wouldn’t get paid so they would hide/mask injuries and get hooked on painkillers/alcohol
This makes sense. Vince has a borderline infatuation with Hoss/Body builder-esque talents. Shout out to Mason Ryan while I’m at it.
Playaz Eyez
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Picturing HBK feuding with Alex Wright 
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After the fight between Bret and HBK, Shawn stormed out and no-showed appearances and events and went as far as disconnecting his home phone so nobody from the WWF could talk to him. Shawn then did a wrestling magazine photo shoot with Michaels intentionally wearing a WCW Outsiders t-shirt. The hope was that Vince McMahon would be so outraged by it that he would fire him but McMahon held firm. Without being able to contact HBK, the WWF sent legal papers to Michaels home threatening him with legal action. He was in breach of his contract and would no longer be paid the money owed to him.
Shawn was screwed. Either he could return to work for the WWF or sit home for the next four years and not be paid a dime. Michaels had his father Richard Hickenbottom try to negotiate with Vince about an early contract release but to no avail. Finally, with no other options available to him, Shawn Michaels returned to the WWF begrudgingly.
It was close. I think the egos backstage at WCW would've caused the lockeroom to explode.
EDIT - This thread is old.
Wish Goldberg would of punted him instead
His dads name is dikk Hickenbottom?
After the fight between Bret and HBK, Shawn stormed out and no-showed appearances and events and went as far as disconnecting his home phone so nobody from the WWF could talk to him. Shawn then did a wrestling magazine photo shoot with Michaels intentionally wearing a WCW Outsiders t-shirt. The hope was that Vince McMahon would be so outraged by it that he would fire him but McMahon held firm. Without being able to contact HBK, the WWF sent legal papers to Michaels home threatening him with legal action. He was in breach of his contract and would no longer be paid the money owed to him.
Shawn was screwed. Either he could return to work for the WWF or sit home for the next four years and not be paid a dime. Michaels had his father Richard Hickenbottom try to negotiate with Vince about an early contract release but to no avail. Finally, with no other options available to him, Shawn Michaels returned to the WWF begrudgingly.
It was close. I think the egos backstage at WCW would've caused the lockeroom to explode.
EDIT - This thread is old.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
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no bullchit lil nikka, we both know how it would have gone down
theres no what-ifs with bret hart.
they pushed him hard in WCW but he failed to make an impact.
as for HBK, of course he would be in the NWO tagging behind his buddies. same way the WWE put him in the NWO the first chance they got, and back in '97, created their own corny NWO knockoff called Degeneration X and made HBK the leader. but of course you aint gonna say nothing about all that chit.
lil dudes on here stay brainwashed by rhetoric.
i think so too.
the WWF was always big on HHH. he was coming off that king of the ring victory too.