Has Will Smith made any movies that could be a legit flop?

[MartyMcFly]

Maybe because of this
Budget $130 million
Box office $243.8 million[2]

Multiply that 130 by 2 homie

 

[FlyRy]

Same thing with me..then I watched it when I had some age on me and

I thought it sucked after seeing it opening day in theaters. Only good thing about it was the ass shot

Suicide Squad

:Jimmy: :hitch:

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[Poetical Poltergeist]

Maybe because of this
Budget $130 million
Box office $243.8 million[2]

exactly, shyt flopped.

 

[TKOK]

Seven Pounds? I thought it was a good movie, but it just sorta came and went.

 

[KalKal]

Hancock
Worldwide: $624,386,746


Man of Steel
Worldwide: $668,045,518

That's $750million if you adjust it for inflation at the same rate as the Domestic numbers.

Not to beat it into the ground , but Hancock was pretty much the opposite of a "Flop".

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I asked this question in the MTV movie Award thread. if Wild Wild West was that big of a flop & if there were others. It seems to be getting a lot of feedback. I'm going to open this up to everyone. So, let's talk about it.
Has he made any true box office bombs?

he's actually made a few


Worldwide (Unadjusted)
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % Year
1 Independence Day Fox $817.4 $306.2 37.5% $511.2 62.5% 1996
2 Hancock Sony $624.4 $227.9 36.5% $396.4 63.5% 2008
3 MIB 3 Sony $624.0 $179.0 28.7% $445.0 71.3% 2012
4 Men in Black Sony $589.4 $250.7 42.5% $338.7 57.5% 1997
5 I Am Legend WB $585.3 $256.4 43.8% $329.0 56.2% 2007
6 Men in Black II Sony $441.8 $190.4 43.1% $251.4 56.9% 2002
7 Hitch Sony $368.1 $179.5 48.8% $188.6 51.2% 2005
8 Shark Tale DW $367.3 $160.9 43.8% $206.4 56.2% 2004
9 I, Robot Fox $347.2 $144.8 41.7% $202.4 58.3% 2004
10 The Pursuit of Happyness Sony $307.1 $163.6 53.3% $143.5 46.7% 2006
11 Bad Boys II Sony $273.3 $138.6 50.7% $134.7 49.3% 2003
12 Enemy of the State BV $250.6 $111.5 44.5% $139.1 55.5% 1998
13 After Earth Sony $243.8 $60.5 24.8% $183.3 75.2% 2013
14 Wild Wild West WB $222.1 $113.8 51.2% $108.3 48.8% 1999
15 Seven Pounds Sony $168.2 $70.0 41.6% $98.2 58.4% 2008
16 Focus (2015) WB $159.1 $53.9 33.9% $105.2 66.1% 2015
17 Bad Boys Sony $141.4 $65.8 46.5% $75.6 53.5% 1995
18 Made in America WB $104.9 $44.9 42.8% $60.0 57.2% 1993
19 Ali Sony $87.7 $58.2 66.4% $29.5 33.6% 2001
20 Concussion (2015) Sony $47.3 $34.5 73% $12.8 27% 2015
21 The Legend of Bagger Vance DW $39.5 $30.9 78.4% $8.5 21.6% 2000

 

[Manuel Hot Pepper Lopez]

Because they see that it costs 130 million and made
$243,843,127 therefore, success but that wouldn't even be a success if you don't include marketing. they didn't even double their budget

Plus people don't seem to think movie theaters get any of that money. A film makes $120,000,000 while in theaters, the studio sees half of that

 

[MartyMcFly]

Plus people don't seem to think movie theaters get any of that money. A film makes $120,000,000 while in theaters, the studio sees half of that

Lol cats don't understand math or business man. Like a movie theater chain just stays in business thanks to the grace of God? There's a reason tickets increase

 

[nieman]

Because they see that it costs 130 million and made
$243,843,127 therefore, success but that wouldn't even be a success if you don't include marketing. they didn't even double their budget

But most companies include marketing costs as a part of their budgeting, when recording numbers. And for a lot of blockbusters, sponsorship/tie-ins will offset those costs in some form, anyway.

The accounting world is shakier than the Forbes fortune lists. They only report revenue, and ignore expenses/losses to show success. So, since that's the model they use, that's the model they should be judged with. So, really you can only go by critical flop/success

 

[MartyMcFly]

But most companies include marketing costs as a part of their budgeting, when recording numbers. And for a lot of blockbusters, sponsorship/tie-ins will offset those costs in some form, anyway.

The accounting world is shakier than the Forbes fortune lists. They only report revenue, and ignore expenses/losses to show success. So, since that's the model they use, that's the model they should be judged with. So, really you can only go by critical flop/success

Movies rarely, if ever, include marketing cost in their reported budget, that's the difference. Mostly when articles from variety or deadline or the hollywood reporter talk about marketing budget, they always use words like "rumored" or "supposedly" or "reported" because they don't have official word but someone on the inside is giving them the details. It's the reason that when its all said and done, WB is only slated to make a profit of about 230 million on batman v superman or why Sony needed to make a huge number to truly recoup from Spectre. They keep that shyt on the low. So when a movie is listing at costing 130 million that's just production. Marketing doesn't factor in to that number they give us on wiki or box office mojo

 

[Roman Brady]

Just saying... think about how many "Kid Savior" or "Kid saves world" movies have came out in the last 5 years... hell 10!!! How many have been shytted on?

Especially the ones where the kids really have no training but are able to overcome all impossible odds and never ever as much as get a scratch on them

Not going to refute your point as wrong but I don't remember the box office or critics being kind to enders game and that's just off the top of my head

 

[Roman Brady]

The one where he kissed that cac dude.

Are you talking about six degrees of desperation or hitch? Cuz even tho he was a chi chi man in the former he never actually kissed a dude. Hitch however is a different story

 

[Milk N Cookies]

So.... What does the coli have to say about Collateral Beauty? I dont think its doing too well. Can we ( the coli) add it to Will's list of under performing movies, therefore it being a flop?

 

[TransJenner]

Wasnt a damn thing wrong with After Earth. Cacs ripped it to shreds because of the obvious

It DID flop domestically but made up for it internationally

Focus did 150 mil on a 50 million dollar budget, definitely not a flop

Concussion only did 50 against a 35 Millie budget but that was an Oscar bait movie, if I'm not mistaken it's his first movie ever to not top out at at least a 50 Million dollar gross so you could qualify it as a flop if you were inclined.

He's got Suicide Squad, which at this point is almost a guaranteed blockbuster, and Collateral Beauty, another Oscar bait film, up next. After that he's confirmed to be doing Bad Boys 3 so big Willie still got something left in the tank

Do we just blame everything on CACS



Geez you guys can't be this dumb