Has any movie character ever caught a bigger L than Anakin on Mustafar?

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I'll always argue that Arlington Road is the biggest L ever taken by a main protagonist.


Main character "Michael" is a widower and single father who comes to realize that his new next-door neighbor is a domestic terrorist. As he works to expose his neighbor and stop his plot, his neighbor manages to:

* kill Michael's girlfriend and frame it as an accident
* mock Michael and tell him he killed his girlfriend
* beat the shyt out of Michael and threaten to kill his son
* tricks Michael into driving bombs into FBI headquarters, blowing up both Michael and the headquarters, killing hundreds
* after Michael's death everyone thinks he was the suicide bomber who killed those people
* his son is now an orphan, believes his father was a terrorist, and is still friends with the actual terrorist neighbors


Whole movie you're expecting Michael to get the upper hand and expose those evil people but then :damn::damn::damn:

Glad I never saw this movie because I would have been heated for days after watching.
 

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Force Ghost Anakin was watching Kylo Ren like, "This is my grandson? I'm actually related by blood to this idiot. :aicmon: :snoop:"

:russ:


Not that he had much room to talk.
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Also glad nobody mentioned my man Finn out there tryna space PAWG. :mjlol:
 

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Going back to Episode 1, you could tell that that they were setting him up to take massive amounts of Ls, even if you'd never seen 4, 5, or 6.

From the moment Yoda was like "Nah, I can't fukk with this kid on that level. He gone be doing too much.". You knew shyt was going to go left.

The saddest part about Vader was for as strong as he was, he never thought for himself. That always bothered me. Whether it was Obi, Yoda, Padme, or Palpatine, bruh never had the mental makeup to just say, "fukk this shyt. I'm stronger than all of y'all. I'll do what the fukk I want to do". I wonder why Lucas wrote him like that?
 

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Going back to Episode 1, you could tell that that they were setting him up to take massive amounts of Ls, even if you'd never seen 4, 5, or 6.

From the moment Yoda was like "Nah, I can't fukk with this kid on that level. He gone be doing too much.". You knew shyt was going to go left.

The saddest part about Vader was for as strong as he was, he never thought for himself. That always bothered me. Whether it was Obi, Yoda, Padme, or Palpatine, bruh never had the mental makeup to just say, "fukk this shyt. I'm stronger than all of y'all. I'll do what the fukk I want to do". I wonder why Lucas wrote him like that?

He used to be a slave and didn't have a proper mentor coming up. If Qui-Gon didn't get bodied, he probably could have helped Anakin shed that loser mentality.
 

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He used to be a slave and didn't have a proper mentor coming up. If Qui-Gon didn't get bodied, he probably could have helped Anakin shed that loser mentality.

But even as a slave he knew he was more than that so I'm not sure how much of that applies to his constant need for mentorship.

I do agree with your point about Qui Gon dying. Obi was still under Qui Gon's tutelage at the time and only fulfilled the role to teach Vader because Those were Qui Gon's final words.

But honestly I don't think Obi was ready for that responsibility.
 

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Ned Stark caught the biggest of L's.

The biggest example of when they go low we go high costing you your life.

That was a really fukked up way for a really likable character to go out.

But it proved that the Lannisters would go too the ends of the Earth to protect their secrets.
 

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But even as a slave he knew he was more than that so I'm not sure how much of that applies to his constant need for mentorship.

I do agree with your point about Qui Gon dying. Obi was still under Qui Gon's tutelage at the time and only fulfilled the role to teach Vader because Those were Qui Gon's final words.

But honestly I don't think Obi was ready for that responsibility.

He might have known his potential and thought he was set up for greatness but all that shyt can cave to the pressures in life. That boy needed guidance from the jump he was a fatherless 9 year old former slave taken far away from his only fam and everything he knew to be mishandled by some cold ass monks with an evil politician in the cut. :wow: I'm not copping pleas for him but the formula of what fukked him up was there.

I understand why Qui-Gon chose Obi though. It looks like a bad idea but Obi was the only familiar face for Anakin and the only who would have patience with him. I don't know what the results would have been if it was another Jedi.
 
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He might have known his potential and thought he was set up for greatness but all that shyt can cave to the pressures in life. That boy needed guidance from the jump he was a fatherless 9 year old former slave taken far away from his only fam and everything he knew to be mishandled by some cold ass monks with an evil politician in the cut. :wow: I'm not copping pleas for him but the formula of what fukked him up was there.

I understand why Qui-Gon chose Obi though. It looks like a bad idea but Obi was the only familiar face for Anakin and the only who would have patience with him. I don't know what the results would have been if it was another Jedi.

I'm not saying he didn't need guidance. Hell I even agree with you especially as a youngin.

My problem with it is he knew the Jedi were full of shyt and at some point should have felt that all palpatine was doing was using him. Palpatine even told him that he knew the dark side of the force. Telling him that, on top of the Jedi not trusting him should have had him open up to forging his own path.
 
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