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Scott Rosenberg, who penned the Miramax pictures “Things To Do In Denver When You’re Dead” and “Beautiful Girls” wrote about his time with Weinstein during the producer and mogul’s ’90s heyday in a since removed (at least from public view) Facebook post. And he says that lots of people in the industry were were aware of Weinstein’s odious reputation, but especially those in his orbit, chose to do nothing, because he provided the lifestyle they all dreamed about.

Here’s Rosenberg’s post:

So, uh, yeah.
We need to talk about Harvey.

I was there, for a big part of it.
From, what, 1994 to the early 2000s?
Something like that.
Certainly The Golden Age.
The “PULP FICTION”, “SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE”, “CLERKS”, “SWINGERS”, “SCREAM”, “GOOD WILL HUNTING”, “ENGLISH PATIENT”, “LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL” years…

Harvey and Bob made my first two movies.
Then they signed me to an overall deal.
Then they bought that horror script of mine about the Ten Plagues.
For a lot of money.
Also bought that werewolf-biker script.
That no one else liked but was my personal favorite.
They were going to publish my novel.
They anointed me.
Made it so other studios thought I was the real deal.
They gave me my career.

I was barely 30.
I was sure I had struck gold.
They loved me, these two brothers, who had reinvented cinema.
And who were fun and tough and didn’t give an East Coast fukk about all the slick pricks out in L.A.

And those glory days in Tribeca?
The old cramped offices?
That wonderful gang of executives and assistants?
All the filmmakers who were doing repeat business?
The brothers wanted to create a “family of film”.
And they did just that…
We looked forward to having meetings there.
Meetings that would turn into plans that would turn into raucous nights out on the town.
Simply put: OG Miramax was a blast.

So, yeah, I was there.
And let me tell you one thing.
Let’s be perfectly clear about one thing:

Everybody-fukking-knew.

Not that he was raping.
No, that we never heard.
But we were aware of a certain pattern of overly-aggressive behavior that was rather dreadful.
We knew about the man’s hunger; his fervor; his appetite.
There was nothing secret about this voracious rapacity; like a gluttonous ogre out of the Brothers Grimm.
All couched in vague promises of potential movie roles.
(and, it should be noted: there were many who actually succumbed to his bulky charms. Willingly. Which surely must have only impelled him to cast his fetid net even wider).

But like I said: everybody-fukking-knew.

And to me, if Harvey’s behavior is the most reprehensible thing one can imagine, a not-so-distant second is the current flood of sanctimonious denial and condemnation that now crashes upon these shores of rectitude in gloppy tides of bullshyt righteousness.

Because everybody-fukking-knew.

And do you know how I am sure this is true?
Because I was there.
And I saw you.
And I talked about it with you.
You, the big producers; you, the big directors; you, the big agents; you, the big financiers.
And you, the big rival studio chiefs; you, the big actors; you, the big actresses; you, the big models.
You, the big journalists; you, the big screenwriters; you, the big rock stars; you, the big restaurateurs; you, the big politicians.

I saw you.
All of you.
God help me, I was there with you.

Again, maybe we didn’t know the degree.
The magnitude of the awfulness.
Not the rapes.
Not the shoving against the wall.
Not the potted-plant fukking.
But we knew something.
We knew something was bubbling under.
Something odious.
Something rotten.

But…
And this is as pathetic as it is true:
What would you have had us do?
Who were we to tell?
The authorities?
What authorities?
The press?
Harvey owned the press.
The Internet?
There was no Internet or reasonable facsimile thereof.
Should we have called the police?
And said what?
Should we have reached out to some fantasy Attorney General Of Movieland?
That didn’t exist.

Not to mention, most of the victims chose not to speak out.
Aside from sharing the grimy details with a close girlfriend or confidante.
And if they discussed it with their representatives?
Agents and managers, who themselves feared The Wrath Of The Big Man?
The agents and managers would tell them to keep it to themselves.
Because who knew the repercussions?
That old saw “You’ll Never Work In This Town Again” came crawling back to putrid life like a re-animated cadaver in a late-night zombie flick.
But, yes, everyone knew someone who had been on the receiving end of lewd advances by him.
Or knew someone who knew someone.

A few actress friends of mine told me stories: of a ghastly hotel meeting; of a repugnant bathrobe-shucking; of a loathsome massage request.
And although they were rattled, they sort of laughed at his arrogance; how he had the temerity to think that simply the sight of his naked, doughy, carbuncled flesh was going to get them in the mood.
So I just believed it to be a grotesque display of power; a dude misreading the room and making a lame-if-vile pass.

It was much easier to believe that.
It was much easier for ALL of us to believe that.

Because…

And here’s where the slither meets the slime:
Harvey was showing us the best of times.
He was making our movies.
Throwing the biggest parties.
Taking us to The Golden Globes!
Introducing us to the most amazing people (Meetings with Vice President Gore! Clubbing with Quentin and Uma! Drinks with Salman Rushdie and Ralph Fiennes! Dinners with Mick Jagger and Warren-freaking-Beatty!).

The most epic Oscar weekends.
That seemed to last for weeks!
Sundance! Cannes! Toronto!
Telluride! Berlin! Venice!
Private jets! Stretch limousines! Springsteen shows!
Hell, Harvey once took me to St. Barth’s for Christmas.
For 12 days!
I was a broke-ass kid from Boston who had never even HEARD of St. Barth’s before he booked my travel.
He once got me tickets to the seven hottest Broadway shows in one week. So I could take a new girlfriend on a dazzling tour of theater.
He got me seats on the 40-yard-line to the Super Bowl, when the Patriots were playing the Packers in New Orleans.
Even got me a hotel room, which was impossible to get that weekend.
He gave and gave and gave and gave.
He had a monarch’s volcanic generosity when it came to those within his circle.
And a Mafia don’s fervent need for abject loyalty from his capos and soldiers.

But never mind us!
What about what he was doing for the culture?
Making stunningly splendid films at a time when everyone else was cranking-out simpering “INDEPENDENCE DAY” rip-offs.

It was glorious.
All of it.

So what if he was coming on a little strong to some young models who had moved mountains to get into one of his parties?
So what if he was exposing himself, in five-star hotel rooms, like a cartoon flasher out of “MAD MAGAZINE” (just swap robe for raincoat!)
Who were we to call foul?
Golden Geese don’t come along too often in one’s life.

Which goes back to my original point:
Everybody-fukking-knew.
But everybody was just having too good a time.
And doing remarkable work; making remarkable movies.

As the old joke goes:
We needed the eggs.

Okay, maybe we didn’t NEED them.
But we really, really, really, really LIKED them eggs.
So we were willing to overlook what the Golden Goose was up to, in the murky shadows behind the barn…

And for that, I am eternally sorry.
To all of the women that had to suffer this…
I am eternally sorry.
I’ve worked with Mira and Rosanna and Lysette.
I’ve known Rose and Ashley and Claire for years…
Their courage only hangs a lantern on my shame.
And I am eternally sorry to all those who suffered in silence all this time.
And have chosen to remain silent today.

I mostly lost touch with the brothers by the early 2000s.
For no specific reason.
Just that there were other jobs, other studios.
But a few months ago, Harvey called me, out of the blue.
To talk about the bygone days.
To talk about how great it would be to get some of the gang back together.
Make a movie.
He must have known then the noose was tightening.
There was a wistfulness to him that I had never heard before.
A melancholy.
It most assuredly had a walking-to-the-gallows feel.
When we hung up I wondered: “what was that all about?”
In a few short weeks I would know.
It was the condemned man simply wanting to comb some of the ruins of his old stomping grounds.
One last time.

So, yeah, I am sorry.
Sorry and ashamed.
Because, in the end, I was complicit.
I didn’t say shyt.
I didn’t do shyt.
Harvey was nothing but wonderful to me.
So I reaped the rewards and I kept my mouth shut.
And for that, once again, I am sorry.

But you should be sorry, too.
With all these victims speaking up…
To tell their tales.
Shouldn’t those who witnessed it from the sidelines do the same?
Instead of retreating to the cowardly, canopied confines of faux-outrage?
Doesn’t being a bystander bring with it the responsibility of telling the truth, however personally disgraceful it may be?

You know who are.
You know that you knew.
And do you know how I know that you knew?

Because I was there with you.

And because everybody-fukking-knew.

In related news, Lauren Holly recently stopped by Canadian talk show “The Social,” and revealed that during the making of “Beautiful Girls,” she was also sexually harassed by Weinstein. Called to his hotel suite for a meeting, the actress saw things quickly go from normal to abnormal, as he changed into a bathrobe, continued their conversation as he used the toilet, and then took a shower. He then stepped out of the shower, and approached Holly naked.

“The adrenaline rush I felt, I wanted to flee, I was scared. He told me that I looked stressed and he thought maybe I could use a massage, maybe I could give him a massage. I began just sort of babbling like I was a child, I think it was just the fear,” she said. Holly then “pushed him and ran.”

Weinstein has yet to respond to these latest allegations, but more than 30 women to date have come forth alleging sexual harassment and assault. [Deadline/Variety]

Source:
‘Beautiful Girls’ Screenwriter Scott Rosenberg On Harvey Weinstein: "Everybody-F**king-Knew"
 

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You all really have to slow down with the Cosby comparisons here. I know everyone likes to look at things with a racial lens but here are the facts; Cosby has been in the news for his alleged exploits off and on for nearly two decades. It's only this last time it really gained any traction and that's because a woman pressed charges and there was no statute of limitations in that particular state. Even white people were trying to hold on to Cosby until there were so many women coming forth they had to back away. Hell, even as recently as a few weeks ago Jerry Seinfeld had to basically be browbeaten and coerced by Stephen Colbert to make a weak condemnation of Cosby.

Yeah, Cosby lost some prestige and a couple of deals this go around but Wienstein pretty much lost everything and this was after one major story. Cosby has survived three or four of these bombshell stories plus the fallout where more people come forward.
 

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You all really have to slow down with the Cosby comparisons here. I know everyone likes to look at things with a racial lens but here are the facts; Cosby has been in the news for his alleged exploits off and on for nearly two decades. It's only this last time it really gained any traction and that's because a woman pressed charges and there was no statute of limitations in that particular state. Even white people were trying to hold on to Cosby until there were so many women coming forth they had to back away. Hell, even as recently as a few weeks ago Jerry Seinfeld had to basically be browbeaten and coerced by Stephen Colbert to make a weak condemnation of Cosby.

Yeah, Cosby lost some prestige and a couple of deals this go around but Wienstein pretty much lost everything and this was after one major story. Cosby has survived three or four of these bombshell stories plus the fallout where more people come forward.
and the biggest thing people are missing here is powerful men do shyt and get away with it.

Thats what Cosby and Weinstein had going for them.
 

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It is because of our adoration of the wealthy and celebrity. We are taught to worship them. Stuff like this is why there is no class consciousness
I agree.

I don't understand how people can look at the Cosby case and think he getting it harder than Weinstein or don't see how this makes it not a race issue. If anything, Weinstein's world has fallen apart in a week. Cosby was basically allowed to do his thing for a decade after the allegation first came out.

Both of them are monsters and you cheapen racism when you try and hoist Cosby up as a racial martyr.
 

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I agree.

I don't understand how people can look at the Cosby case and think he getting it harder than Weinstein or don't see how this makes it not a race issue. If anything, Weinstein's world has fallen apart in a week. Cosby was basically allowed to do his thing for a decade after the allegation first came out.

Both of them are monsters and you cheapen racism when you try and hoist Cosby up as a racial martyr.
I hear you but I just think race is tricky because black people are tired of being the face of shyt.
 

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The morality on Hollywood, and most places is the money and the fame, and the glamour are worth the price of....essentially almost anything. I understand it, but that's not me. And, this dude sounds angrier at himself than he has any right to be with anyone else. You could have stopped this, or died trying. That wasn't an option for me, or the millions of people of watched his movies.
 

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That’s how it always is with rich weirdos. They have no idea how to talk to women and figure the money will do it for them. You heard how Trump approaches em. No game at all.

It ain't about 'game' it's about power to these dudes, they can easily get sex either by paying for it or meeting women that will willingly give it to them but that seems mundane to them.
 
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