Harvard Study Confirms Fluoride Reduces Children's IQ

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That isn't the problem. We KNOW fluoride is poisonous in high doses just like aspirin, water and oxygen. If you take the time to read the studies that article is based on, you'll see that they've been studying HIGH doses of fluoride, about 8 to 10 times higher than what we've been drinking for over 70 years. In order for us to be affected like those studies, you'd have to drink about 8 gallons of fluoridated municipal water a day for 20+ years.......

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children who live in areas with highly fluoridated water have "significantly lower" IQ scores than those who live in low fluoride areas

The results suggest that fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development at exposures much below those that can cause toxicity in adults ...

rats exposed to 1 ppm (50 Smol/L) of water-fluoride for one year showed morphological alterations in the brain and increased levels of aluminum in brain tissue compared with controls ...


the study is saying that chilrren are much more susceptible to fluoride poisoning, at levels currently in our drinking water. if you acknowledge that fluoride is indeed poison, then why do you defend it? and why would you let your children drink it?
 

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Ill Clinton said:
the study is saying that chilrren are much more susceptible to fluoride poisoning, at levels currently in our drinking water.

No, it isn't......

children who live in areas with highly fluoridated water have "significantly lower" IQ scores than those who live in low fluoride areas

The fluoride levels in America are controlled so that they are low. The issue some people have is that we have multiple sources of fluoride over and above the water fluoridation, but nowhere near the amounts in the study which was performed in China.

Read this and stop being scared to brush your kids' teeth.....

Fluoride conspiracists at it again

Also, you might wanna read this....

FDA Orders Dr. Joseph Mercola to Stop Illegal Claims

Joseph Mercola, D.O., who practices in Schaumburg, Illinois, also operates one of the Internet's largest and most trafficked health information sites. Mercola states that his site has over 300,000 pages and is visited by "millions of people each day" and that his electronic newsletter has close 1,500,000 subscribers. The site vigorously promotes and sells dietary supplements, many of —which bear his name.

In 2004, Medical Economics reported that his practice employed 50 people and that he employed 15 people to run his newsletter, including three editors. Much of his support comes from chiropractors who promote his newsletter from their Web sites. Two of his books hit the #2 sales rank on Amazon Books shortly after his newsletter plugged them for the first time. In 2006, according to an article in Chicago Magazine, Mercola stopped practicing medicine to focus on his Web site.

Many of Mercola's articles make unsubstantiated claims and clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations. For example, he opposes immunization and fluoridation, and mammography; claims that amalgam fillings are toxic; and makes many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements. Mercola's reach has been greatly boosted by repeated promotion on the "Dr. Oz Show."

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That isn't the problem. We KNOW fluoride is poisonous in high doses just like aspirin, water and oxygen.




high doses?

funkdoc, listen, how much fluoride do you think accumulates in the system over time? we are exposed to sodium fluoride every time we wash our hands, every time we take a shower, every time we drink water from the faucet, every time we cook our food, etc.

cmon this is common sense. if you put toxins into the body at a faster rate than it can get rid of them the toxins build up and you get disease. and you're telling me multiple daily exposures to sodium fluoride by ingestion is good thing for society?

i know our government is concerned about the dental health of its citizens, but i dont think we know enough about the long term affects of water fluoridation to put sodium fluoride into our public water supply. can we at least agree on that?

better safe than sorry.
 
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No, it isn't......



The fluoride levels in America are controlled so that they are low. The issue some people have is that we have multiple sources of fluoride over and above the water fluoridation, but nowhere near the amounts in the study which was performed in China.

Read this and stop being scared to brush your kids' teeth.....

Fluoride conspiracists at it again

Also, you might wanna read this....

FDA Orders Dr. Joseph Mercola to Stop Illegal Claims



:comeon:


Wow funk you start to sound like a tool. Do you really believe FDA on everything? :beli:
 

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No, it isn't......



The fluoride levels in America are controlled so that they are low. The issue some people have is that we have multiple sources of fluoride over and above the water fluoridation, but nowhere near the amounts in the study which was performed in China.

Read this and stop being scared to brush your kids' teeth.....

Fluoride conspiracists at it again

Also, you might wanna read this....

FDA Orders Dr. Joseph Mercola to Stop Illegal Claims



:comeon:



Mercola wrote the article, Harvard did the study. i actually went and read the 34 page study since you obviously didnt. here's some quotes


Fluoride readily crosses the placenta (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 2003). Fluoride exposure to the developing brain, which is much more susceptible to injury caused by toxicants than is the mature brain, may possibly lead to permanent damage

The exposed groups had access to drinking water with fluoride concentrations up to 11.5 mg/L (Wang SX et al. 2007); thus, in many cases concentrations were above the levels recommended (0.7–1.2 mg/L; DHHS) or allowed in public drinking water (4.0 mg/L; U.S. EPA) in the United States

recent cross-sectional study based on individual-level measure of exposures suggested that low levels of water fluoride (range, 0.24–2.84 mg/L) had significant negative associations with children’s intelligence :takedat:

The results suggest that fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development at exposures much below those that can cause toxicity in adults

In conclusion, our results support the possibility of adverse effects of fluoride exposures on children’s neurodevelopment.
 
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Mercola wrote the article, Harvard did the study. i actually went and read the 34 page study since you obviously didnt. here's some quotes


Fluoride readily crosses the placenta (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 2003). Fluoride exposure to the developing brain, which is much more susceptible to injury caused by toxicants than is the mature brain, may possibly lead to permanent damage

The exposed groups had access to drinking water with fluoride concentrations up to 11.5 mg/L (Wang SX et al. 2007); thus, in many cases concentrations were above the levels recommended (0.7–1.2 mg/L; DHHS) or allowed in public drinking water (4.0 mg/L; U.S. EPA) in the United States

recent cross-sectional study based on individual-level measure of exposures suggested that low levels of water fluoride (range, 0.24–2.84 mg/L) had significant negative associations with children’s intelligence :takedat:

The results suggest that fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development at exposures much below those that can cause toxicity in adults

In conclusion, our results support the possibility of adverse effects of fluoride exposures on children’s neurodevelopment.

Alot of kats don't want to read Ill they scared they find the truth they can't handle. Instead they believe everything the FDA spits out. They same men who worked at the Big Pharma companies now head the FDA. Of course they will disagree with anything messing in their sales.
 

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Today the fluorides that goes in our drinking water is almost exclusively raw industrial pollution from the Florida Phosphate Industry. It’s a waste that’s scrubbed from the smokestacks and trucked in tankers and dumped into reservoirs. That is a raw industrial poison.

I honestly don't care if it causes brain damage or not, I don't want to drink industrial waste and I am shocked people defend drinking this shyt.
 

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Here we go again.....:snoop:

Please, show evidence of ONE person in the US that has had their IQ lowered by properly fluoridated drinking water. Not China where the industrial standards deviate wildly and were not accounted for in the study that has y'all shook.

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Im not on the conspiracy theory tip, and I believe in the studies that shows fluoride in water helps with preventing dental issues, but nowhere near the level that is brought up by the government.

I'll take the Scandinavians' and Dutch opinions on this matter:

Finland
The Finnish government supports fluoridation, although only one community of 70 000 people was fluoridated, Kuopio.[23] Kuopio stopped fluoridation in 1992.[39]

Netherlands
Water was fluoridated in large parts of the Netherlands from 1960 to 1973, when the High Council of The Netherlands declared fluoridation of drinking water unauthorized.[56] Dutch authorities had no legal basis adding chemicals to drinking water if they will not improve the safety as such.[4] Drinking water has not been fluoridated in any part of the Netherlands since 1973.

Norway
In 2000, representatives of the Norwegian National Institute for Public Health reported that no cities in Norway were practicing water fluoridation. There had been intense discussion of the issue around 1980, but no ongoing political discussion in 2000.[57]

Sweden
In 1952, Norrköping in Sweden became one of the first cities in Europe to fluoridate its water supply.[59] It was declared illegal by the Swedish Supreme Administrative Court in 1961, re-legalized in 1962[60] and finally prohibited by the parliament in 1971,[61] after considerable debate. The parliament majority said that there were other and better ways of reducing tooth decay than water fluoridation. Four cities received permission to fluoridate tap water when it was legal.[59]:56-57 An official commission was formed, which published its final report in 1981. They recommended other ways of reducing tooth decay (improving food and oral hygiene habits) instead of fluoridating tap water. They also found that many people found fluoridation to impinge upon personal liberty/freedom of choice by forcing them to be medicated, and that the long-term effects of fluoridation were insufficiently acknowledged. They also lacked a proper study on the effects of fluoridation on formula-fed infants.[59]:29

So it isn't the devil as Leyet and thekingsmen say it is, but it isn't that beneficial as our government implies and it also forces people to be medicated against something that has no chance of being spread from person to person.
 

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LeyeT said:
high doses?

Yes, HIGH doses. I'll make this simple: Taking one aspirin a day is beneficial to health while taking a whole bottle a day is poisonous.

Same rules apply here. Cite a study that has shown that low doses of fluoride are deleterious to health.

Also.....

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/fact_sheets/cwf_qa.htm#22

22. What are the drinking water standards for maximum levels of fluoride? What do you mean by an MCL, an MCLG, and a secondary standard for fluoride? What is the difference?

The current enforceable drinking water standard for fluoride is 4.0 mg/L. This is the maximum amount that is allowed in water from public water systems, also called the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL). The MCL is set to be as close to the public health goal as EPA finds may be achieved with the use of the best available technology, taking cost into consideration. The public health goal, called a Maximum Contaminant Level Goal (MCLG), is not enforceable and is based solely on possible health risks and exposure over a lifetime. For fluoride, analytical methods or treatment technology do not pose any limitation so the MCL currently equals the MCLG of 4.0.

A secondary standard is a non-enforceable guideline to regulate contaminants that may cause cosmetic effects (such as skin or tooth discoloration) or aesthetic effects (such as taste, odor, or color of drinking water). EPA recommends secondary standards to water systems but does not require systems to comply. For fluoride, the secondary standard is 2.0 mg/L.

23. Has the safety of community water fluoridation been evaluated?

The safety and effectiveness of fluoride at levels used in community water fluoridation has been thoroughly documented by scientific and public health organizations using scientific reviews and expert panels. These expert panels consist of scientists from the United States and other countries with expertise in various health and scientific disciplines, including oral health, medicine, biophysics, chemistry, toxicological pathology, and epidemiology. Experts have weighed the findings and the quality of the available evidence and found that the weight of peer-reviewed scientific evidence does not support an association between water fluoridation and any adverse health effect or systemic disorders.

24. What can I do to limit my exposure to fluoride?

Talk with your dentist about the best use of fluoride to prevent tooth decay. In adults in the U.S., there is little concern about unwanted health effects even from the combined level of fluoride from all sources. The main sources of fluoride intake for a child are from swallowing toothpaste and from water. Fluoride toothpaste is effective for preventing tooth decay and does not contribute to fluorosis unless it is swallowed. Because children under 6 have poor control of their swallow reflex, they tend to swallow much of the toothpaste on their brush. Parents or caregivers should supervise their child’s tooth brushing, ensuring that that the child uses only a small pea-sized amount of paste, spits out the excess paste, and rinses well after brushing.

Water fluoridation is beneficial for reducing and controlling tooth decay and promoting oral health in children and adults. Recent estimates of reductions in tooth decay can be credited to community water fluoridation. You can check with your local water supplier to see how much fluoride is in your drinking water.

Consumers served by private wells may want to have their water tested by a state certified laboratory. You can find one by contacting your state water certification officer. Contact information for your state can be found at http://water.epa.gov/scitech/drinkingwater/labcert/
 

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I find it interesting that someone that posted in that old thread claims to not be the same person posting in this thread
 

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Ill Clinton said:
Mercola wrote the article, Harvard did the study. i actually went and read the 34 page study since you obviously didnt.

Sure I did, about 3 years ago when this cockamamie thing was posted on :hamster:. You should have read one of the most important parts of the meta-analysis: the date Aug. 10, 2008.......:laff: @ cats thinking this is 'new' and that fluoride is industrial waste. What's next, you gonna tell me the Nazi's used it for 'mind control'?.....:russ:

You people are scared over NOTHING.
 
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