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The stoop with dat dope fanny padding
Gil Scott-Heroin said:
How do you come to this conclusion? Can I look at the stats and determine if he gets phantom fouls called? Can I look at the stats and determine he dominants the ball too much (without moving the ball)?

I've watched 85+% of Rockets games this season and I've watched around the same amount of games, when he was in OKC.



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This proves my point (and no he doesn't have heat checks from mid-range, because he never gets hot from there). He doesn't have a mid-range game, it's a last resort for him. There's basically no difference to his game now than there was when he was a Sun Devil. That doesn't mean I'm saying he should've significantly improved his game since then (or I was expecting an improvement), it's that I'm saying his game is inaccurately viewed - right now. Folk have got him on a pedestal, when his game doesn't reflect that.

You can't sit there and tell me he has a mid-range game when he's currently shooting 32.2% from outside the rim to the 3pt line. To put that number into perspective: Rubio is shooting 30.9% from outside the rim to the 3pt line. There's a 1.3% difference in their shooting%s, and I bet you wouldn't even entertain the idea that Rubio has a mid-range jumper - am I right?

Harden has actually been fluctuating between the high 20s and low 30s all season.



No, but that's not the point here. He's overdependent on only TWO areas of the game: driving and drawing contact and shooting top of the arc threes. Nothing else. He basically has no awareness on where to be off the ball. The most improved player in the league? You've got to be kidding me? He's no where near the most improved player in the game. What does he do differently or better this season compared to last season? Absolutely nothing. Points and assists are up because he gets more touches and plays more minutes. His man-to-man defense has gotten worse (if that were possible) and everything else has relatively stayed the same. His shooting percentage has gone down and his turnovers have risen (again a reflection on his usage rate).

In saying all that - he probably will get the most improved player of the year award (because it fits the league's narrative they're trying to push).



To my knowledge he hasn't been warned or fined.

Again, that would ruin the league's attempt at pushing him as a star. Where are all the fines for Chris Paul's flops (he's been warned once)? I can tell you right now, there isn't one other player in the league I've seen this season, that has left defenders in more disbelief after a foul has been called. Not Kobe, not Wade and not Durant. The over-accentuation of cocking back the head and drastic body movement on any form of contact (as minuscule as it may be) is what his game's predicated on. He doesn't get those calls, he's basically ineffective. It's almost like the sole purpose of him driving is to get a call and not to get a basket.

I've seen teams this season afraid to go near him after he gets a roll on of calls and he has a free passage to the rim. I don't doubt he doesn't get fouled legitimately, but when I see players' initial responses and from what my eyes tell me, he does get A LOT of calls go his way.



It's a basic game. Shooting threes and relying on contact when driving is a basic game. What other qualities of a SG does he possess? No mid-range game, no cutting to the basket, no post game, no off-ball movement, no curling (which I know he's only partly responsible for). His game is basic and once again, I don't expect it to be developed - he's only 23. But the way folk view his game and where he's ranked as a player, like he's up there with Wade and Kobe + being a top 10 player. shyt ain't a true reflection of where he's at.

He's a very good top of the arc three point shooter and is GREAT at driving (not great at finishing) - that's all.





The ones in bold, I can't say Harden is better than due to being injured or not a direct-reflection of their games because they're playing injured (or recently coming back from injury). There are players on that list that are on the higher side of arguably being better than him (there are more players that are arguably better than him too - on the lower side, who I've left off).

I never once said or alluded to the notion that he isn't nice. My only gripe is where he's been ranked as a player. If folk didn't come out and say Thunder should've traded Westbrook and that he's better or he's up there with Kobe and Wade or that he's MVP material or he's elite after a few games or he's a top 10 player or anything of that nature, I wouldn't have posted half the shyt I did.
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This idiot was really saying deron was better than harden

No wonder he doesn't show his face on this board much anymore
 
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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
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:pachaha: I'm surprised by this. @Malta and Gil 2 of the most respected basketball heads in the coliseum.
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They got a better deal than the Magic (for Dwight) which is what I said in this thread, plus Lamb is the biggest SG disappointment of the last 5 years, he has all the tools to be an all-star but is a rockhead.
 
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Or Harden you know becomes a Perennial all star and MVP candidate :dead:
Gil Scott-Heroin said:
i can just see it now - if the thunder don't make the finals, folk gonna be in here saying thunder fukked up.

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This thread is why you don't take people on the internet serious. At all. For anything.

Even the "smartest" guys here DKSAB in the grand scheme of things . We all know as much as you can without actually dedicating our lives to it, which isn't much.
 
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