Haiti: Nearly a Million People Took to the Streets.They Want the Western-imposed government out of

LeVraiPapi

Redemption is Coming
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
16,995
Reputation
3,999
Daps
53,174
But you tried claiming there was ZERO Clinton influence which is what I was saying. You're not indirectly agreeing with me by saying "well its the elites fault for allowing them in." No I REPEATEDLY said the two work together for a common goal.


And the Clintons DO directly own land in Haiti.

High Hopes for Hillary Clinton, Then Disappointment in Haiti

And btw the NY Times is not an alt right source. More importantly you continue to forget that the Clintons had a hand in getting Martelly elected like my source states.

Like I said I told you that the two groups go hand in hand but you are now just indirectly. No its not about "Clintons this Clintons that" but you having personal bias for the Clintons or Dem party.

I have no bias for the Clintons and the Dems. One thing I can never forgive Obama is the fact that he never went to Haiti. I don't buy anything printed before the elections. The same people in that article was saying how great Trump would be for us.

These same people invited Trump into Little Haiti and be used as photo opps. I can never forgive them that part. They knew and they said "Well, they are both the same". Only later, it was rumored those fools got paid
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
Still waiting on the proof. Unlike you i can backed everything i say about Haiti


Former US President Clinton appointed UN special envoy for Haiti


appointment of Bill Clinton as the United Nations Special Envoy for Haiti, building on the former United States President’s extensive engagement with the Caribbean nation.

“I am confident that President Clinton will bring energy, dynamism and focus to the task of mobilizing international support for Haiti’s economic recovery and reconstruction,” said Mr. Ban.

According to a news release, the appointment builds on Mr. Clinton’s extensive engagement with Haiti, while serving in the White House, and most recently, through his Call to Action on Haiti at the Clinton Global Initiative in September 2008.

Former US President Clinton appointed UN special envoy for Haiti
 

LeVraiPapi

Redemption is Coming
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
16,995
Reputation
3,999
Daps
53,174
Wtf you talking about stop changing the subject and post proof

"Stop pushing propaganda. Clinton push was with Haitel and Comcel with Aristide basically letting them rip the country off with that stupid phone service. "

Like I say, that was their major push and it was fukked up they were charging us 1 dollar per mn when DR was paying 15 cents for the same damn service. As for the natural resources, like I say it's them and those rich people that need to be questioned over this.

My POV is always this : White people and foreign powers don't have the best interests of our country at heart and we should not expect it. We should expect them to be evil and money driven, with 0 regard on how this afffects us. We should hold our own people accountable and stop them from selling pieces of the country to the highest bidder. External forces will always exist. We need to control the people within our own country.

That's my way of resolving the crisis we have. Best believe, Moise Jean Charles will be 10x worse since he's a pure illiterate and all he knows is violence
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
Like I say, that was their major push and it was fukked up they were charging us 1 dollar per mn when DR was paying 15 cents for the same damn service. As for the natural resources, like I say it's them and those rich people that need to be questioned over this.

My POV is always this : White people and foreign powers don't have the best interests of our country at heart and we should not expect it. We should expect them to be evil and money driven, with 0 regard on how this afffects us. We should hold our own people accountable and stop them from selling pieces of the country to the highest bidder. External forces will always exist. We need to control the people within our own country.

That's my way of resolving the crisis we have. Best believe, Moise Jean Charles will be 10x worse since he's a pure illiterate and all he knows is violence
Show proof stop talking in circles.

I already show you proof that bill Clinton was the envoy of U.N in Haiti


Already show Hilary involvement putting sweet Mickey as the president of Haiti
 

LeVraiPapi

Redemption is Coming
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
16,995
Reputation
3,999
Daps
53,174
Dude my step father was apart of the Haitian elite who worked under Papa Doc and Baby Doc. And so I am very aware of what the elite are capable of...

What YOUR not grasping is that this shyt is NOT mutually exclusive. I dont give af about right wing or left wing "propaganda"(you see fixated on that), but fact is those Elite Haitians AND the Clintons BOTH have a hand in exploiting Haiti. If not then why are the Clintons hoarding land enriched in minerals such as gold in Haiti?

Yes, the elites abuse their power but also in collaboration with the Clintons. Are we gonna act like the Clintons DID NOT prompt up Martelly?

They don't own those lands directly. They pay people to buy for them. Also, it's not their fault our country fails to stop them. The rich people were willingly to do business with them and exploit whatever they can.

It is messed up all around but stop with the Clintons this and Clintons that. They are one of many problems, but not the cause of those problems.

People keep saying Clinton this and Clinton that. You foools have 0 insight on how the system works. If we get rid of the bourgoisie, we can get rid of those external influences. Until then, we will keep pointing fingers while getting exploited from all angles.
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
Haiti Hires Clinton Linked PR Firm To Widen Washington Reach

Back in 2016, President Trump made a campaign stop in Miami's Little Haiti neighborhood. As the papers were at the time full of the Clinton foundation’s Haiti scandal, calling out his political opponent at that place was an easy win.







Mr Trump stated that Ms Clinton was “responsible for doing things a lot of the Haitian people are not happy with.”







"Taxpayer dollars intended for Haiti and the earthquake victims went to a lot of the Clinton cronies."







These statements got him a lot of applause and even though the Clinton family has since always denied all accusations of improper actions related to their work in Haiti, the conspiracy theories have remained.







Fast forward to 2018, and the cash-strapped government of Haiti, believing that it needs to widen its influence in Washington, concludes to hire a top-dollar international PR firm with ties to a former member of Hillary Clinton’s staff.









NEW: The government of Haiti, so cash-strapped that its teachers are going unpaid, has retained a high-powered, top-dollar international PR firm with ties to a former member of Hillary Clinton’s staff to boost the country’s image in Washington. Haiti hires Clinton-linked PR firm to soften image in Washington

— Franco Ordoñez (@FrancoOrdonez) March 12, 2018












The opposition to Haiti’s government was less than thrilled as you can imagine.







Ms Sabine Guerrier, who handles international relations for opposition presidential candidate Mr Jean-Charles Moïse, stated bluntly: “PR for what?”







“Instead, of spending money on public relations in the U.S., why not spend the money so teachers can get paid. Why are you not spending the money on roads, schools, infrastructure?”







“There are so many problems with Haiti right now. This is your priority? It just doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t add up.”
Source:



miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article204613769.html
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
What Happens When a Celebrity Becomes President
In electing a pop star, whose five-year term ended Sunday, Haitians may have been ahead of the curve.

JONATHAN M. KATZFEB 9, 2016
oRbuSuETEorImls9OLfNVeAErCbiOR3_6mawc0DXk8cQkAjfkELwK5D80sOP2WAumyOrokFkIy0mIGvSK-zOn7VM2_PPx4uxBVUYEvk0AgW7NAo8BZWZbm_no8izW1R_L1TiMWZs16T6QFwc7tXqosfYuNbj=s0-d-e1-ft
A protester holds a sign during a demonstration in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. ANDRES MARTINEZ CASARES / REUTERS


With his country descending into its worst political crisis since a 2004 coup d’etat, and thousands of people demanding his resignation in the streets, Haiti’s embattled outgoing president, Michel Martelly, went back to basics last week: He released a new song.


Before Martelly became head of state five years ago, he was a pop star known as “Sweet Micky.” Micky was famous for saying or doing anything to get a rise out of a crowd. He would provoke them, insult them, or seduce them with his velvet baritone and bad-boy charm. A lot of it was your typical rock or rap rebel shtick—bragging about sex, drugs, and generally being an outlaw. But Micky’s genius move was combining that with the unleashed, upside-down spirit of kanaval, the Haitian Mardi Gras. Sometimes that meant Martelly performed in a halter-top and miniskirt. Sometimes he’d just go naked.



If the transformation of audacious showmanship and fame into political power reminds you of a certain real-estate mogul turned celebrity candidate in the United States, well, it should. Martelly presaged Donald Trump in a lot of ways. Before his election, Martelly’s supporters liked to say that, because he was already so rich and famous, their candidate couldn’t be bribed or bought. Every time he’d insult other candidates or critics, or just say what other politicians wouldn’t, disaffected, angry voters—especially young, unemployed men furious about their endless poverty and the failed response to the 2010 earthquake—just loved him more. In one recording, purportedly made days before the 2011 presidential runoff, Martelly informed a crowd that members of the rival left-wing Lavalas party of ousted former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide were “ugly” and “smell like shyt.” “Go fukk your mother, Lavalas. ... Go fukk your mother, Jean-Bertrand Aristide,” he said, over cheers and peals of laughter. (The phrase is even dirtier and meaner in Haitian Creole.) Then he challenged them to come to his house and kill him.





The competition dismissed Martelly’s candidacy as a joke, at first. The press did too, but that didn’t stop us from covering him—he made great copy.

Martelly eventually became a more sober candidate with the help of political advisors who had previously worked on campaigns with Mexico’s former president Felipe Calderon and John McCain in the United States. That polish, and his full-throated support of foreign investment, won him the key backing of the Obama administration, which continued right up until the end of his presidency.

But after five years of stalled and canceled elections, rising insecurity and poverty, political violence, and accusations of corruption, Sweet Micky’s novelty has long since worn off. In his last weeks in power, before protesters forced him to step down at the end of his term on Sunday, any vestiges of presidential restraint had worn off too.

Martelly’s new song, released just in time for kanaval, is called “Give Her the Banana.” It goes downhill from there. The uptempo track depicts the outgoing president as a doctor called on to insert various things into Liliane Pierre-Paul, one of Haiti’s most respected and longest-serving journalists and a critic of his regime.


“Bring her a serum! Bring her a shot! Come with a pill for Little Lili!” the president’s back-up singers intone while sirens wail in the background. This is a warm-up for the main event. “Give her a Sweet Micky! Oh!” someone cries, and while the band chants the journalist’s nickname over and over, the president—the actual, sitting president—croons:

Take it out and put it in her behind!
Give her a banana!
Give her a banana with no skin!
Give her a banana with the skin on!


Haitian Creole is a fabulously colorful language, with lots of short, rhyming words that can be easily shaped into double or triple entendres. The meanings here aren’t hard to figure out. The banana is the symbol of Martelly’s handpicked successor, Jovenel Moïse, a little-known businessman whose sole, marginal claim to fame is overseeing a $27 million, partially government-funded banana export project in Haiti’s northern corridor. In speeches and on posters, he had to refer to himself as “the Banana Man” to avoid confusion with a better-known candidate whose first name is Moïse. (In the song, Martelly refers to the bananas he’s about to “put in” the journalist as “yon bel rejim,” which could mean, among other things, “a beautiful bunch” or “a beautiful government.”)




Criticism of Martelly and his candidate surged after the first round of presidential elections in October. Despite his near-total lack of name recognition, a nose-diving local currency, and widespread dissatisfaction with Martelly’s party and government, the Banana Man managed to garner 33 percent of the first-round vote, putting him comfortably in first place heading into a scheduled runoff—which the opposition promptly pledged to boycott. Opposition groups threatened to attack any would-be voters.



There was a good case for fraud: An independent commission set up to review the election found a whopping 92 percent of polling-place tally sheets contained “grave irregularities,” such as missing signatures or incorrect voter-identification numbers. Only about a quarter of the electorate voted. At least 900,000 of the 1.5 million votes counted came from people holding accreditations to be poll observers, which allowed them to vote outside their home precincts. Haitian observers reported accreditations being sold to the highest bidder in the days before the first round.


And there were lots of reasons to doubt that voters were flocking to Martelly’s candidate. Far from outrunning the stink of high-level corruption due to his wealth, Martelly has been dogged by allegations that he is surrounded by drug dealers, kidnappers, and murderers. Some of those colleagues trace their political roots to the ruthless Duvalier father-son dictatorships, which plundered and terrorized the country for 29 years beginning in the late 1950s. Martelly is also beset by rumors that his new $9-million beachfront mansionwas built with stolen money. Human-rights activists have been threatened and killed. Martelly has emphatically denied all those allegations. But as his new kanaval song makes clear, during his tenure critics of the president, his family, or his inner circle could expect rebuke, or worse. In December, gunmen fired bullets through the windows of Radio Kiskeya—the station co-founded by Pierre-Paul.

As allegations of fraud mounted, and Martelly kept insisting he was going to bulldoze ahead with the runoff elections no matter what, thousands of protesters poured into the streets, some of them trading gunfire with the police. With the situation threatening to spiral out of control, many of Haiti’s powerful elite families turned their backs on the president. Martelly’s remaining support in Washington—as well as Ottawa, Brussels, Brasilia, and UN headquarters in New York—evaporated.


“Keeping Haiti off the front page is always a concern for U.S. policymakers, and even more so with U.S. presidential elections approaching,” said Robert Maguire, director of the Latin American and Hemispheric Studies Program at George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs. (This is doubly true for the expected Democratic frontrunner; Martelly in large part owes his presidency to Hillary Clinton, who, as secretary of state, flew personally to Port-au-Prince after 2010’s first-round results showed him eliminated from the race, to demand he be put back in.)

The Haitian constitution marked Sunday, February 7—the 30th anniversary of dictator Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier’s 1986 flight into exile aboard a U.S. Air Force cargo plane—as the day Martelly had to step down. For weeks he pledged to stay on and fight. But the protests got worse. Paramilitaries thought to be loyal to the government appeared in the capital and fanned out into the countryside, reportedly burning a police station and robbing a bank. On Friday, an opposition protester killed one of the paramilitary soldiers by crushing his head with a concrete slab on the plaza outside the president’s offices.




With just hours left in Martelly’s term, on Saturday, the president and newly elected members of parliament reached an agreement to create a transitional government that will decide how to proceed with elections, earning praise from both the U.S. government and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. The runoff election remains indefinitely postponed.

On Sunday, in a dour, sparsely attended ceremony—a far cry from his boisterous 2011 inauguration—Martelly took a final bow. “I played my musical score, and that allowed me to leave with the feeling of a job well done. But I can not remove from my mouth the taste of a mission that is not over yet and much remains to be done.” He then folded up his presidential sash and handed it to the head of the Haitian parliament. “I declare, from this moment on, there is a presidential vacuum,” he concluded.

Parliament is expected to name a temporary president this week, who in turn is supposed to hold an election for a new president within 120 days. But with no one in charge, a lot of Haitians I know are worried that someone will try to take power through other means before then. Guy Philippe, a powerful, nominally pro-Martelly government militia leader, who led the 2004 coup, warned that he is “ready for war” if elections do not proceed. (Philippe is seeking a senate seat, perhaps thinking it will buy him immunity from his pending arrest warrantfrom the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency.) Within minutes of Martelly’s resignation, anti-government protesters poured back into the streets of Port-au-Prince, tearing down and burning kanaval stands on the capital’s central plaza. The festivities, which were supposed to start on Sunday, were postponed as well.


Five years ago, Martelly’s election seemed like a fluke, an only-in-Haiti sort of farce propelled by what had been an especially absurd and awful year. But the power of celebrity has steadily been turning itself into real power all over the world, from Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales (comedian) and Filipino congressman Manny Pacquiao (boxer), to Angelina Jolie Pitt (actress turned UN High Commissioner for Refugees special envoy), Al Franken (Saturday Night Live writer turned U.S. senator), and former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (you know).

Trump, a brash reality TV star, is now making a credible run for the presidency of the United States. It seems sometimes like he’s reading from Martelly’s playbook: cussing and slinging insults, playing the fearless anti-politician who will destroy the system in order to save it. Last week, in true Haitian style, the middling mogul turned reality star even called for an election he lost to be canceled and redone. No one knows where Haitian or American politics are headed now. But it may turn out that Haiti was, as it has been so many times in its history, just a little bit ahead of the curve.
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
yeah....the US dont have power in Haiti but send marines to help the current right wing haitian government they put power in july


Landing of a squad of US Marines in Haiti


The detachment comes from the Maritime Security Guards Strengthening Unit in Quantico, Virginia, the Business Insider magazine and the Yahoo portal reported.

Port-au-Prince, Friday, July 13, 2018 ((rezonodwes.com)) - A detachment the size of a squad of additional maritime security guards arrived at the US Embassy in Haiti while the Caribbean nation Impoverished is torn by riots because of high fuel prices, confirmed a US official.
CNN first reported Tuesday that the Marines were en route to Port-au-Prince to reinforce security guards and State Department personnel already at the US embassy.

The detachment comes from the Maritime Security Guards Strengthening Unit in Quantico, Virginia, which can be called by any ambassador when a foreign diplomatic post is threatened, a US official told Task & Purpose .

Street demonstrations and violence erupted in Haiti on July 6 after the government's decision to raise gas prices by 38 percent and kerosene by 51 percent to balance its budget, according to media reports. Despite the announcement by Haitian Prime Minister Jack Guy Lafontant of the suspension of price increases the following day, the unrest continued apace.

Several people have been killed in the riots and armed groups have set up roadblocks in some parts of the country.
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
They don't own those lands directly. They pay people to buy for them. Also, it's not their fault our country fails to stop them. The rich people were willingly to do business with them and exploit whatever they can.

It is messed up all around but stop with the Clintons this and Clintons that. They are one of many problems, but not the cause of those problems.

People keep saying Clinton this and Clinton that. You foools have 0 insight on how the system works. If we get rid of the bourgoisie, we can get rid of those external influences. Until then, we will keep pointing fingers while getting exploited from all angles.
You don't know the politics in Haiti and the people behind the scene


Im still waiting for proof from you
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
More history on the Clinton and Bush history in Haiti

Haiti’s Clinton Problem

BY
NATHAN J. ROBINSON

During his term, Bill Clinton used violent and underhanded tactics to promote US interests in Haiti.






President Jean-Bertrand Aristide’s election in 1990 had been seen as an encouraging harbinger of a new relatively more peaceful and democratic era in Haitian politics. Aristide was a liberation theologian and orphanage proprietor who had spent years preaching about the wellbeing of the poor, sick, and hungry.

After the country had survived multiple decades ruled by the Duvaliers père and fils (a pair of murderous grifters who financed their upscale dictator-chic lifestyles by trafficking in the body parts of dead Haitians), the frugal curate Aristide was a welcome relief.

The peace did not last. Aristide was overthrown in a military coup d’etat the next year, and the country collapsed into disarray. The new military government swiftly introduced the usual program of arrests, tortures, and mysterious disappearances, with all opposition subject to terror and suppression. Faced with violence and economic collapse, hundreds of refugees began to flee the country in tiny boats, bound for US shores.

United States law allows political refugees to apply for asylum if they have a “well-founded fear” of political persecution, which plainly the Haitians did. But the George H. W. Bush administration refused to let the Haitians go through the asylum process. Instead, it followed a formal policy of simply dispatching the Coast Guard to scoop the fleeing Haitians from the water, then immediately sending them back to Haiti.

The Bush policy was condemned by human rights groups; after all, the entire purpose of political asylum is to ensure that people are not being returned to countries where their lives are in danger, yet the US government was openly sending thousands of Haitians back to a country where their lives were in danger. It was also seen as discriminatory, even racist; refugees from Cuba were routinely granted asylum, but Haitians were not. (Of nearly twenty-five thousand Haitians interdicted by the United States from 1981–1991, only eleven were allowed into the country to be given asylum hearings.) The brazen inhumanity of the administration’s actions shocked many, and throughout his 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton had pledged unequivocally that he would end the policy immediately upon taking office, criticizing the practice as “cruel” and “immoral.” Clinton said that by contrast to Bush:

If I were president, I would — in the absence of clear and compelling evidence that they weren’t political refugees — give them temporary asylum until we restored the elected Government of Haiti.

The promise was an unusually forceful one for Clinton; it was markedly free of his usual qualifications and hedges. There was no real argument that the refugees were political. They were fleeing a military dictatorship. The granting of political asylum would also be within the president’s powers; there was no obvious legal impediment to his carrying out the promise.

But shortly after being elected, before he had even taken office, Clinton reversed himself. In what the New York Times called a “bluntly worded” radio address, Clinton announced that:

The practice of returning those who flee Haiti by boat will continue, for the time being, after I become president . . . Those who leave Haiti by boat for the United States will be intercepted and returned to Haiti by the US Coast Guard.

Asked about the switch, Clinton said his “campaign rhetoric had been sorely misunderstood.” Clinton maintained that “people who didn’t qualify as refugees still shouldn’t be here,” and the Haitians were fleeing for “economic” rather than “political” reasons, and thus didn’t qualify as refugees.

This was news to the Haitians, who had thought they were fleeing political violence. It also angered human rights advocates, who had believed Clinton’s word that he would end the Bush policy. The head of the National Coalition for Haitian Refugees emphasized that “[t]he policy violates the most basic tenet of refugee protection. People at least deserve to be heard to demonstrate a fear of persecution before they are returned.”

The reversal also alienated black Democrats, who had relied on Clinton to show more respect for the rights of poor black refugees than Bush had. Kweisi Mfume, then head of the Congressional Black Caucus, later recounted his anger at Clinton over the blatant abandonment of his promise:

Black people all across this country gravitated to Clinton’s message because he was moving beyond Bush’s inhumane policy, which turned a blind eye to conditions in Haiti — men being tortured and maimed, women being raped, and the bodies of children found washed up on the shore. Yet in Clinton’s first week in office, he announced he would continue to maintain the Bush policy of repatriation, mumbling some kind of poor excuse for his decision.

Mfume said that in his opinion, “Clinton could not have done such a thing without taking the black vote and the Caucus for granted.”
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,063
Reputation
6,991
Daps
80,025
Reppin
BaBylon
The reasons for Clinton’s change of mind were never made public, but the New York Times suggested one explanation, reporting that “[m]embers of Mr. Clinton’s foreign-policy team have expressed concern that celebrations surrounding Mr. Clinton’s inauguration, which will be widely televised, will be marred by news footage of Haitian boat people drowning . . .” Naturally, who would wish to see such celebrations marred?

The forced repatriation policy was not the only way in which the United States violated the Haitians’ rights, however. As disagreements over the refugees’ status had gone through the courts, the Bush administration had begun a policy of storing refugees awaiting transfer at the Guantanamo naval base in Cuba. Because Guantanamo was not US soil, detaining people was thought to avoid the triggering of legal procedural protections that may have been granted to those who were actually being held in the country.

Bill Clinton continued the Bush policy of keeping refugees at Guantanamo indefinitely. But Clinton introduced a new policy as well: testing the Haitians for HIV, and segregating those who tested positive. In doing so, he created “the world’s first HIV detention camp.”

Conditions in the HIV camp were horrific. The facility was a “leaky barracks with poor sanitation, surrounded by razor wire and guard towers,” and numerous detainees were housed in tents. Many of the refugees were gravely ill with AIDS, and the crowded facility was characterized by fear, squalor, and uncertainty.

After being held for more than a year, some of the refugees began a hunger strike. (The military retaliated by putting the leader of the hunger strike in solitary confinement.) Communications home had to be smuggled out. As one refugee wrote in a letter to her family, “I have lost in the struggle for life . . . There is nothing left for me. Take care of my children, so they have strength to continue my struggle . . . I have lost hope. I am alone in my distress.” Another recalled:

We had been asking them to remove the barbed wire; the children were playing near it, they were falling and injuring themselves. The food they were serving us, including canned chicken, had maggots in it. And yet they insisted that we eat it. Because you’ve got no choice. And it was for these reasons that we started holding demonstrations. In response, they began to beat us. On July 18, they surrounded us, arrested some of us, and put us in prison, in Camp Number 7 . .&nbsp. Camp 7 was a little space on a hill. They put up a tent, but when it rained, you got wet. The sun came up, we were baking in it. We slept on the rocks; there were no beds. And each little space was separated by barbed wire. We couldn’t even turn around without being injured by the barbed wire.

In the tiny, cramped cells, “there was no privacy. Snakes would come in; we were lying on the ground and lizards were climbing over us. One of us was bitten by a scorpion . .&nbsp. there were spiders. Bees were stinging the children, and there were flies everywhere: whenever you tried to eat something, flies would fly in your mouth.”

The military doctors began giving women birth control without the women’s knowledge or consent. Yet at the same time the Clinton administration refused to provide the AIDS-infected refugees with lifesaving medical care, which almost certainly hastened their deaths. The US military had recommended that the sickest refugees be airlifted to hospitals within the United States for treatment. But the administration, not wishing to let any of the Haitians onto US soil, refused. As a result, there were “a huge number of unnecessary early deaths.” When asked why they were refusing to provide medical treatment, a spokesman for Clinton’s Immigration and Naturalization Service said bluntly: “They’re going to die anyway, aren’t they?”

Eventually, after human rights lawyers filed suit, the federal courts stepped in to put a stop to Clinton’s actions. A federal judge called the treatment “outrageous, callous, and reprehensible” and criticized Clinton for imposing on refugees “the kind of indefinite detention usually reserved for spies and murderers . .&nbsp. The Haitians’ plight is a tragedy of immense proportion, and their continued detainment is totally unacceptable to this court.”

Thanks to judicial intervention, then, the HIV camp was finally closed. But for some, the court order did not come soon enough. A detainee named Joel

died just days after he was freed from the camp, at the age of twenty-six. For months, human rights attorneys had begged the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) to send Saintil and other gravely ill Haitians for treatment in the United States, but the agency had refused until a federal district court judge ordered the sickest released. Saintil was flown to his father’s house in Florida, but it was already too late. He became one of the camp’s first casualties.

Even for the survivors, the nearly two years spent in Clinton’s detention camp had lasting psychological effects:

Annette Baptiste still cries when she thinks about what the United States did to her ten years ago on its Naval Base in Guantanamo, Cuba. Sitting in her Brooklyn apartment, she recalls how the United States detained her and 276 fellow Haitians in the Alcatraz of refugee camps, imprisoning them for some eighteen months simply because they, or their loved ones, had HIV. “I relive Guantanamo every day,” she says in Creole. “It’s all in my head.” Guantanamo is also in Pierre Avril’s head, say the friends who looked after him in the United States. Avril was just fourteen when he arrived at Guantanamo, and the trauma of the experience — the fear, the uncertainty, the stigma — left permanent damage. Today he is once again in detention, this time in a psychiatric correctional facility in upstate New York.

Even after action by the courts stopped the Clinton policy, the administration was still reluctant to process refugee claims from Haitians. When President Aristide was finally returned to power, and Clinton’s government announced that the refugees would finally be freed from detention, the administration was sure to declare that “under no circumstances will any Haitian currently at Guantanamo be admitted to the United States.”

Freeing the detainees had not come easily, because Clinton fiercely defended his government’s right to indefinitely imprison Haitians. In doing so, he “helped pave the way for” the future justifications for indefinite detention at Guantanamo made by his successor, George W. Bush.

But the court decisions surrounding the Haitian refugee crisis would not come up during the debate over Bush’s detention practices. Clinton administration lawyers had fought to have the decisions questioning the legality of detention removed from the books, and the case would disappear.


Leverage
Clinton’s record on Haiti did not get better. While the administration publicly opposed the removal of President Aristide, it covertly supported the right-wing death squads that had supported the coup. The leader of the brutal Front for the Advancement and Progress of Haiti (FRAPH), Emmanuel Constant, had been on the CIA’s payroll for years. American officials admitted to both working with him and encouraging him to form FRAPH in the first place.

US intelligence called him “a young pro-Western intellectual . . . no farther right than a Young Republican” even though his organization was, as sociologist William Robinson explains, a “well-organized instrument of repression, operating in a death-squad manner to continue the process of decimating popular sector organization” and “bent on preserving an authoritarian political system.” The organization “carried out much of the reign of terror that led to the killing of more than three thousand Haitian civilians in three years” and “shot into pro-democracy crowds celebrating Aristide’s planned return, killing eight people and wounding many others.”

Despite this string of atrocities, the United States continued to provide support to Constant and the FRAPH, some of which was more overt than covert. The Los Angeles Times reported on one of Constant’s speaking events:

Constant appeared on a public podium with a sound system, allegedly supplied by the US Embassy, flanked by a row of US soldiers to protect him from a seething crowd. He then read a speech, reportedly drafted by US Embassy officials, that cast him as a democrat ready to help heal the wounds of the nation.

When the United States restored President Aristide to power, Constant was sheltered on US soil, despite Haiti’s pleas that Constant be deported and tried for war crimes in his home country. At first, Constant was held in detention, and was ordered deported by a judge. But after Constant threatened to publicly expose the CIA’s links to his organization, “the Clinton administration released him into the United States rather than return him to Haiti, provided him with a work permit, and required that he abide by a gag order.”

The Clinton administration attempted to cover up its involvement with FRAPH after Aristide’s restoration. When FRAPH massacred pro-Aristide protesters, the United States raided and destroyed FRAPH headquarters. In the process, it seized FRAPH’s internal documents and brought them back to the United States. The administration refused to accede to Aristide’s request for the return of the documents, which Human Rights Watch said contained “intact evidence of death-squad crimes.”

The withholding of the documents was reportedly an effort to keep the CIA’s links with the FRAPH a secret; the New York Times cited the Clinton administration’s “implicit fear that some documents might mention American intelligence links to members of the discredited former Government that ousted Mr. Aristide in a military coup in 1991.” The US’s refusal was condemned by the United Nations’s independent human rights envoy to Haiti, who said he believed that “the US administration is trying to cover up some of its wrongdoing in that period.”

The US’s support of FRAPH made for an apparent irony. Allan Nairn, a journalist for the Nation who won a Polk Award for his reporting on Haiti and the CIA, said that “many of the officials whom Clinton was claiming to be fighting were actually his employees.” Nairn observed that if “Clinton had simply cut them off, completely ended their support, the Haitian public itself most likely could have brought down the coup regime without a US occupation.” Even as the United States professed itself flummoxed as to how to restore Haiti’s democratically elected government, it continued to encourage the very forces that were preventing the restoration of that government.

Some were puzzled by “a contradictory US policy that publicly supports Aristide as ‘the people’s choice’ while privately grooming those who ardently oppose him.” After all, Clinton went so far as to invade Haiti in order to restore Aristide to power, so wasn’t covert support for the right-wing opposition somewhere between pointless and disastrous?

It was not. As Emmanuel Constant himself explained, the United States asked him to “balance” Aristide’s leftist movement, a task he took to with violent enthusiasm. By supporting the FRAPH, the United States increased its bargaining power in negotiations with Aristide. Returning Aristide to power was conditional on his agreeing to an austerity and privatization program, and through ensuring that Haiti remained divided between competing factions, the Clinton administration was able to ensure that Aristide would be compliant while in office, and not attempt to implement the radical redistributionist economic policies that the IMF and United States feared.

So Aristide was returned to office, but agreed to an austerity program that prevented him from taking Haiti in a social-democratic direction. The plan worked, and the Clinton administration got what it wanted from Haiti.
 

Secure Da Bag

Veteran
Joined
Dec 20, 2017
Messages
39,878
Reputation
20,309
Daps
125,861
So is there a media blackout in Haiti right now? Has the Haitian gov't said or done anymore concerning this issue?
 
Top