Haile Selassie/Menelik II : "We are caucasian"

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eris/habeshas onj that c00n shyt

bet you can't say that about somalis doe :umad:

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Goddamn people need to stop incorrectly using the word c00n. :mindblown:

Yall were the main ones in the slave trading business since Ethiopian Christians were barred from enslaving people of other faiths aside from the Jews and pagans. :ufdup:

Are you sure you want to go there breh? :usure:
 

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Goddamn people need to stop incorrectly using the word c00n. :mindblown:

Yall were the main ones in the slave trading business since Ethiopian Christians were barred from enslaving people of other faiths aside from the Jews and pagans. :ufdup:

Are you sure you want to go there breh? :usure:
lets take it there Tesfay..

I reloaded

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lets take it there Tesfay..

I reloaded

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lol, I got cards to pull my wariya. Hell, yall even enslaved Habeshas yall nikkaz was quick to lick Arab nuts. nikkaz let yall have Islam an yall tried to throw nikkaz in chains for yall dirty ass masters. :umad:

Yall no different than Sudanese people to me, some extra confused Ethiopians in denial. :lolbron:
 

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lol, I got cards to pull my wariya. Hell, yall even enslaved Habeshas yall nikkaz was quick to lick Arab nuts. nikkaz let yall have Islam an yall tried to throw nikkaz in chains for yall dirty ass masters. :umad:

Yall no different than Sudanese people to me, some extra confused Ethiopians in denial. :lolbron:
all love breh

we all in this shyt together..just fukkin wit u
 

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"'I am not a Negro at all; I am a Caucasian' the Emperor Menelik told the West Indian pan-Africanist Benito Sylvian who had come to Addis Ababa to solicit the Emperor's leadership in a society for the 'Amelioration of the Negro race.' Haile Sellassie confirmed that view in a declaration to Chief H. O. Davis, a well known Nigerian nationalist, stating that the Ethiopians did not regard themselves as Africans, but as 'a mixed Hamito-Semitic people (2006, John H. Spencer, p. 306)"

I was casually googling some of the stupid claims @Leasy was making in another thread and I came across this :what: How authentic is this quote? or is this just some bullshyt?

http://blackherbals.com/Wonderful_Ethiopians.pdf

Start at page 225.
 

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No offense, but any book attempting to make a link between Ethiopia and India is :usure: at best. That passage you're talking about doesn't talk about Ethiopians being caucasian. I know there are lots of myths out there but for me the connection hasn't been convincingly argued. Historians of antiquity used the name "Ethiopian" to refer to all dark skinned people in general, so two Ethiopias were discussed in his time one being the real Ethiopia and the other being "West Ethiopia" or in other words, India.

I'm not totally denying the possibility of a connection, at the very least its been proven that India and Ethiopia have a relationship going back thousands of years but this was mostly through sea traders. I just need it to be proven in the same way Egypt's blackness was.
 

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Menelik was also the same guy that sold Eritrea to the Italians so he could weaken Emperor Yohannes IV's rule as well as strengthen his own army to secure his own rule. Menelik was a great leader but he made some big errors too. Mainly not pushing the Italians out of Eritrea when he had a chance, selling off all the coastal lands Ethiopia had to the Europeans, not switching from a slave based agricultural economy to an industrial one when he had a chance. Still tho, I'd take Eritrean propaganda sites with a grain of salt. They absolutely HATE both Menelik and Haile but it doesn't help that semitic Eritreans are Tigrays while Menelik and Haile were semitic Amharas which is their long time tribal rival.

As far as that quote goes I'd need a link for it, not to say it would surprise me tho cuz Ethiopia was a slave society when Menelik was in power and Haile abolished slavery in the 1920s in order to gain entry into the League of Nations. Race in Ethiopia isn't like race in the Americas, you had the semitic tribes (Amhara/Tigray) which were more mixed and lighter than their southern counterparts the Cushytes and Nilotic peoples which are dark and have all the features you'd expect of Africans and so the lighter peoples were near the coast so they had the means to more modern technology than the tribes of the south. With that technology also came racial ideas, Ethiopians were referred to by cacs of that time as the most advanced form of Negro and at best semi-barbarous due to some "caucasian blood" and perhaps it was this that brought about those feelings.

Menelik and Haile both made the mistake of thinking these Europeans respected Ethiopia's history or sovereignty or didn't look at them all as black. Thankfully they were sharp enough to keep the country from being colonized, but the slave industry that'd gone on for centuries set the country back majorly in terms of economics and the racist ideas that European trade partners gave us fukked the racial ideals of the country.

Really this is too tricky a subject, its not as simple as black and white.

how is your knowledge about Africa so damn vast ...what books are you reading that I need to get familiar with? :mindblown:
 

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how is your knowledge about Africa so damn vast ...what books are you reading that I need to get familiar with? :mindblown:

lol, I been teaching myself about Ethiopia since the 2nd grade I always been interested in history since I was a kid. I still got the first library book I ever checked out on Ethiopia, that shyt is 20 years overdue I checked that book out in '94. :laugh:
 
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"'I am not a Negro at all; I am a Caucasian' the Emperor Menelik told the West Indian pan-Africanist Benito Sylvian who had come to Addis Ababa to solicit the Emperor's leadership in a society for the 'Amelioration of the Negro race.' Haile Sellassie confirmed that view in a declaration to Chief H. O. Davis, a well known Nigerian nationalist, stating that the Ethiopians did not regard themselves as Africans, but as 'a mixed Hamito-Semitic people (2006, John H. Spencer, p. 306)"

I was casually googling some of the stupid claims @Leasy was making in another thread and I came across this :what: How authentic is this quote? or is this just some bullshyt?
:banderas:

lol, one of my bm's is Jamaican..

I tried asking about this one day, and almost died that day.
 

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lol, I been teaching myself about Ethiopia since the 2nd grade I always been interested in history since I was a kiid. I still got the first library book I ever checked out on Ethiopia, that shyt is 20 years overdue I checked that book out in '94. :laugh:

So can you be my private tutor in regards to 'teaching" me about those West and East African "species" for my future "business" I have discussed with you....and how to interact with them.... :whistle:
 

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So can you be my private tutor in regards to 'teaching" me about those West and East African "species" for my future "business" I have discussed with you....and how to interact with them.... :whistle:

I'll be honest with you, I'd ask somebody literally born and raised there or at least raised long enough there to know the small intricacies if I were you. Its a big difference between myself who was born here and the ones born over there. If I were you, I'd find some cheap condos and buy em up. Furnish them, and then rent them to oil money having Arabs that come there for sex tourism. If you get to know people in those areas good enough you can coordinate with them and cake off. I thought about doing it myself, but it felt like a lot to invest plus its a prolonged process but if done right you'll have it. :ehh:
 

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Can people stop saying east africa when referring to the horn of africa.
There are many others countries there besides ethiopia, eriteria and somali.
 

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Can people stop saying east africa when referring to the horn of africa.
There are many others countries there besides ethiopia, eriteria and somali.

I'm kinda tired of the whole "Ethiopians act white" subject, shyt is annoying as hell. Plus you're right its way more to East Africa aside from the Horn. The Horn just the best known area cuz of its location relative to important shipping routes.
 
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