Devilinurear
Veteran
People died and that is your reaction. Something is wrong with you get help.
Gunman in New Zealand opens fire inside mosque, video inside *NSFL*
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DaKidFromNoWhere
Superstar
I myself will never see the video.
Just reading about it makes me uneasy.
Just reading about it makes me uneasy.
Tell that to the Black people in Cali that can't get a job --and being pushed out their neighborhoods and killed.
I don't give a fukk. I know this site is full of immigrants -- but I stand by that. I don't give a fukk who cares
Those black people are being pushed out by white gentrifiers. Most black people started leaving in the 80s and 90s due to gang violence. The same white people who got rid of Affirmative Active in California in the 90s with Proposition 209.
Most of the black people that have been killed by Mexicans have been gang related.
You out here spewing right winged talking points.
You nikkas keep exposing yourselves.
Fade Runner 2049
Veteran
I said R.I.P. And then asked a question. Is what you've posted done anything to bring them back to life? Nah.
Respect.
And I'm still on a journey of clarity regarding what I believe, whether I believe there is a purpose or if this is all randomness and I'd NEVER group all atheists in one ignorant pot.
Though, I do HATE, with a passion, people who take every opportunity to vehemently troll and be condescending to other people who believe there may be some purpose to this whole existence. It truly boggles my mind how much of the justification for bashing people who believe in a god is that "religion is a cancer that has caused so much pain & horror."
People fail to even consider, for a moment, that the world is made up of 1) vicious greedy individuals, 2) dangerously gullible individuals seeking community and 3) people in the middle who are trying to figure out how to navigate this world.
Whether it be religion, race, territory, shared national identity, gender, or ANYTHING else a greedy opportunist can use to convince the gullible people to do vile shyt for the greedy opportunists gain.
If religion didn't exist, those wars would have still happened, but the most fukked up people would have found a different angle to convince people that "we are the group...those people over there are the OTHERS. Let's kill them and take their shyt."
My bad for ranting, I really just wanted to reply respect.
Nov 2018
Duck for cover: gun laws up for debate
Both Labour and National are drawing battle lines over another problem, and stirring a very angry hornets' nest: firearms laws.
The Arms Act dates back to 1983 and hasn't had a significant refresh for 26 years.
Police Minister Stuart Nash has requested a review of the legislation. Police will deliver their advice to him next week.
National, sensing an opportunity, has organized a roadshow aimed at gun owners.
The debate about gun control policy in New Zealand has never reached the level of the "culture wars" raging for the soul of America.
Recommendations on firearms control by Justice Thorp in 1997 were never passed into law. An Arms Amendment Bill, introduced in 2005, languished until it was dismissed in 2012.
And every year since 2010, government proposals for changes to legislation have been drawn up, and then quietly dropped.
So, now Nash – who sat on the select committee and was vocal about the need for greater control – has grasped the nettle.
Police are increasingly nervous about a number of trends. One in five frontline officers are now confronted with a firearm every year. Two terrifying incidents in Kawerau and Morrinsville in 2016 saw seven police officers shot at.
There has been a increase in the presentation of guns at commercial robberies and in drug-related activity.
Anecdotally, officers now rarely investigate a gang-related crime if a gun is not present. Organized crime and gangs now use semi-automatics as their weapon of choice, according to reports from the frontline.
Police are also seeing an increase in the possession of semi-automatic firearms. Officially, of the 1.5 million firearms owned in New Zealand, just 15,000 are military-style semi-automatic rifles, or MSSAs.
They must be registered. To hold an MSSA, you need an E-category endorsement of a standard firearm licence, which requires references and substantial checks. These military-style firearms and pistols are already subject to good traceability and accountability measures. There are strict rules around storage.
But it's not that simple. Firearms held under a basic A-category licence can now easily be converted to MSSAs, using unregulated parts.
In July 2017, Quinn Patterson killed Natanya and Wendy Campbell at his home near Whangarei. He had illegally acquired an A-category semi-automatic through using a friend's firearms licence, and then transformed it into an MSSA by adding a high-capacity magazine.
Police are pushing for tighter regulation of these parts, and have used Patterson's crime as an example.
They'd also like a compulsory register – an idea that has met with great opposition from the firearms community. Some argue such a measure is ineffective as criminals aren't minded to register their illegally held weapons.
Since 1992, politicians have backed nervously away. Frustrated at a lack of progress, police have flexed their muscles by making administrative changes.
For example, this year they refused import applications for AR15 semi-automatic rifles and parts, infuriating retailers who have threatened court action.
It's only served to drive a wedge between police and legal gun-owners, who believe the cops are being heavy-handed and acting arbitrarily.
Police spokesman Chris Bishop is using 30 "gun forums" to develop fresh policy ahead of the 2020 election. He's noticed that many legal gun-holders are keen on tougher punishments for those who use firearms in crime, particularly gang members.
But policy development isn't the only motive. There are around 250,000 gun owners in New Zealand – a sizeable constituency mainly of men aged 40-70.
They are active, and politically motivated, as the backlash over the recent South Island tahr cull demonstrated.
Duck for cover: gun laws up for debate
Both Labour and National are drawing battle lines over another problem, and stirring a very angry hornets' nest: firearms laws.
The Arms Act dates back to 1983 and hasn't had a significant refresh for 26 years.
Police Minister Stuart Nash has requested a review of the legislation. Police will deliver their advice to him next week.
National, sensing an opportunity, has organized a roadshow aimed at gun owners.
The debate about gun control policy in New Zealand has never reached the level of the "culture wars" raging for the soul of America.
Recommendations on firearms control by Justice Thorp in 1997 were never passed into law. An Arms Amendment Bill, introduced in 2005, languished until it was dismissed in 2012.
And every year since 2010, government proposals for changes to legislation have been drawn up, and then quietly dropped.
So, now Nash – who sat on the select committee and was vocal about the need for greater control – has grasped the nettle.
Police are increasingly nervous about a number of trends. One in five frontline officers are now confronted with a firearm every year. Two terrifying incidents in Kawerau and Morrinsville in 2016 saw seven police officers shot at.
There has been a increase in the presentation of guns at commercial robberies and in drug-related activity.
Anecdotally, officers now rarely investigate a gang-related crime if a gun is not present. Organized crime and gangs now use semi-automatics as their weapon of choice, according to reports from the frontline.
Police are also seeing an increase in the possession of semi-automatic firearms. Officially, of the 1.5 million firearms owned in New Zealand, just 15,000 are military-style semi-automatic rifles, or MSSAs.
They must be registered. To hold an MSSA, you need an E-category endorsement of a standard firearm licence, which requires references and substantial checks. These military-style firearms and pistols are already subject to good traceability and accountability measures. There are strict rules around storage.
But it's not that simple. Firearms held under a basic A-category licence can now easily be converted to MSSAs, using unregulated parts.
In July 2017, Quinn Patterson killed Natanya and Wendy Campbell at his home near Whangarei. He had illegally acquired an A-category semi-automatic through using a friend's firearms licence, and then transformed it into an MSSA by adding a high-capacity magazine.
Police are pushing for tighter regulation of these parts, and have used Patterson's crime as an example.
They'd also like a compulsory register – an idea that has met with great opposition from the firearms community. Some argue such a measure is ineffective as criminals aren't minded to register their illegally held weapons.
Since 1992, politicians have backed nervously away. Frustrated at a lack of progress, police have flexed their muscles by making administrative changes.
For example, this year they refused import applications for AR15 semi-automatic rifles and parts, infuriating retailers who have threatened court action.
It's only served to drive a wedge between police and legal gun-owners, who believe the cops are being heavy-handed and acting arbitrarily.
Police spokesman Chris Bishop is using 30 "gun forums" to develop fresh policy ahead of the 2020 election. He's noticed that many legal gun-holders are keen on tougher punishments for those who use firearms in crime, particularly gang members.
But policy development isn't the only motive. There are around 250,000 gun owners in New Zealand – a sizeable constituency mainly of men aged 40-70.
They are active, and politically motivated, as the backlash over the recent South Island tahr cull demonstrated.
Can anyone say they are surprised?
When these events happen, they need to start putting the spotlight on their family and friends. People are happy to die as martyrs, I doubt they would be happy with the knowledge that a bullseye is painted on the back of everyone they love. By bullseye I mean media attention, mild harassment, intense scrutiny, and lost job opportunities
The politicians and social commentators also need to be held accountable for putting a battery in their back. Free speech is a great thing but it needs to be equal. What I mean by that is that anyone who is not white will come under intense scrutiny the moment their talk convinces people that they are being persecuted and that it is us vs them. They come under scrutiny because they realise it is the sort of talk that will inspire others to act. From Donald Trump to Lauren Southern, white people are doing this openly, it is accepted, and when blood spills there is not a demand for them to answer for the people they embolden.
When these events happen, they need to start putting the spotlight on their family and friends. People are happy to die as martyrs, I doubt they would be happy with the knowledge that a bullseye is painted on the back of everyone they love. By bullseye I mean media attention, mild harassment, intense scrutiny, and lost job opportunities
The politicians and social commentators also need to be held accountable for putting a battery in their back. Free speech is a great thing but it needs to be equal. What I mean by that is that anyone who is not white will come under intense scrutiny the moment their talk convinces people that they are being persecuted and that it is us vs them. They come under scrutiny because they realise it is the sort of talk that will inspire others to act. From Donald Trump to Lauren Southern, white people are doing this openly, it is accepted, and when blood spills there is not a demand for them to answer for the people they embolden.
xoxodede
Superstar
Those black people are being pushed out by white gentrifiers. Most black people started leaving in the 80s and 90s due to gang violence. The same white people who got rid of Affirmative Active in California in the 90s with Proposition 209.
Most of the black people that have been killed by Mexicans have been gang related.
You out here spewing right winged talking points.
You nikkas keep exposing yourselves.
I lost a family member a few years ago in Cali. And the dude that killed him was a 26-year old illegal. It's not a game there.
That's not right wing. That's going there and seeing what happening -- and attending a funeral of a loved one.
Devilinurear
Veteran
Your so angry you neg me for going against you. Like I said seek help. Since you negged me their is nothing more to discuss you are ignored from now on.
Hold up...
You've responded to almost everyone else with some hostile shyt. Even the breh just now when he didn't say anything but "his post was out of line" and you come at the nikka like that?
Yet, I entertained your question with at least some objectivity and you've yet to give your thoughts?
Come on, breh...either come correct or realize you failed at trolling and this is literally the Coli walk of shame by you continuing to act dumb in this thread.
We trying to help you at this point.
You've just made this thread about you...
Devilinurear
Veteran
Thank you I apprentice it.
I've been there and I'm moving there. What you stated ain't the norm. I don't even care for Mexicans.
You nikkas is agents here to cause confusion, hence the border wall comment in this thread anywhere when that had nothing to do with the topic.
Knowing that the wall isn't being built and the only reason for the proposal is for Trump to get his friends paid. That if it was, it would solve nothing, and that would be another 25 billion dollars down the drain.
This thread is a cesspool.
xoxodede
Superstar
That's fine and I respect that. I am telling you -- that I have too -- and I have lost a love one to someone who was a illegal. The border comment came out cause I responded to a post about open borders -- and why I wasn't for it.
I don't care if one thinks I'm an "agent" -- I have been here long enough and posted long enough for one to know that isn't true. Also, I am respectful unless i'm disrespected.
Fade Runner 2049
Veteran
nikka you wasn't objective about shyt prior to the edit calling me a fukboy and shyt
I'm not known as a troll on thecoli, try again.
The question I asked triggered you and that's ok.
levitate
I love you, you know.
Thanks
You are so hard to figure out.