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I haven't been following this closely, so why did Greece go through with the referendum vote only to capitulate to Euro demands after?

Educate a brother.
Because their PM is a retard...

:russ: @ calling for a referendum and then putting together a proposal identical to the deal you begged your people to vote NO on...

How is he going to sell this to his people? Blame it all on Varufakis?

fukking Greeks...:smh:
 

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Because their PM is a retard...

:russ: @ calling for a referendum and then putting together a proposal identical to the deal you begged your people to vote NO on...

How is he going to sell this to his people? Blame it all on Varufakis?

fukking Greeks...:smh:
Varufakis leaves just to appease the troika and this is the best they could get out of it? :snoop:
 

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Well looks like Finland is not having it

http://yle.fi/uutiset/source__finland_will_refuse_greeces_bailout_proposals/8148505

Source – Finland will refuse Greece’s bailout proposals
Finnish officials yet to confirm or deny claim that Greek proposed reforms failed to convince Finland to agree to an extension of Greece’s bailout, at talks between Eurozone finance ministers in Brussels.

Finance State Secretary Olli Pekka Heinonen (L) shortly after the hearing of Finland's Grand Committee on Saturday. Image: Jarmo Stenmark / Lehtikuva
Finnish officials have not yet responded to a claim that they are likely to reject Greece’s reform proposals during bailout talks in Brussels.

Finland’s Alexander Stubb was among Eurogroup finance ministers convening on Saturday along with IMF officials to negotiate an extension of bailout assistance, in return for a package of austerity promises from the Greek authrotiies.

A source told Yle that the Finnish position on whether to accept the proposals is currently negative.

During the meeting concerns were also expressed by some of Greece’s other creditors, including the head of the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, over Greece’s ability to deliver on the proposed reforms.

And on Saturday evening the newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine reported that Germany's finance ministry is also likely to refuse a deal, instead suggesting that Greece should temporarily drop out of the eurozone.
 

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Greece debt crisis: EU summit cancelled as talks continue
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As it happened: Greek debt decision
A summit of all European Union members planned for Sunday has been cancelled as "very difficult" talks over a third bailout deal for Greece continue.

Eurozone finance ministers adjourned the talks last night and they have now resumed.

European Council president Donald Tusk said a meeting of Eurogroup leaders would go ahead at 14:00GMT and "last until we conclude talks on Greece".

Without a deal, it is feared Greece could crash out of the euro.

The BBC's Jonny Dymond in Brussels says that rarely have EU meetings been cancelled at such short notice and with such a terse announcement.

Marathon talks on Saturday had ended without agreement and Eurogroup leader Jeroen Dijsselbloem described negotiations as "very difficult".

"We have had an in-depth discussion of the Greek proposals, the issue of credibility and trust was discussed and also of course financial issues involved," Mr Dijsselbloem told reporters. "It is still very difficult but work is in progress."

Talks resumed at 09:00 GMT.

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Analysis: Chris Morris, BBC News, Brussels

Frustrated and fatigued, finance ministers have gathered for a second day to try and resolve the clear divisions within the eurozone over Greece.

France and others are pushing for a deal with Greece, while a group of sceptical countries led by Germany harbour grave reservations.

But there are still influential players pushing for an announcement today that negotiations on a third bailout with Greece can begin.

That should be enough to allow the European Central Bank to intervene once again, and prevent Greek banks going out of business.

The fact that a meeting of all 28 EU leaders has been cancelled suggests that the focus is still on finding a deal within the eurozone, rather than looking at the consequences of a Greek exit.

Robert Peston: Could euro survive a temporary Greek exit?

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The ministers have reportedly discussed in detail the option of easing Greece's debt burden as long as Athens enacts legislation immediately to reform taxation, pensions and administration. There will be no write-down of debt.

But the talks remain complex and European Commission Vice President Valdis Dombrovskis said it was "utterly unlikely" a mandate would be achieved in Sunday's meeting to start formal negotiations on the third bailout.

Slovakian Finance Minister Peter Kazimir was similarly downbeat, saying: "It's not possible to reach a deal today. We can agree on certain recommendations for the heads of state. That's all. The breach of trust... it's so big, it's not possible to achieve the deal."

Finnish Finance Minister Alexander Stubb said he was "still hopeful" of a deal but that on a scale of one to 10, Greece and its eurozone partners were "somewhere between three and four" on achieving a deal.

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Media caption"Open expressions of distrust mean a deal is still a long way off" reports BBC correspondent Jonny Dymond
Reports on Saturday suggested that German ministers were drawing up a plan that would allow Greece to exit the eurozone temporarily if this weekend's talks fail - something Athens says it is not aware of.

Dimitrios Papadimoulis, vice-president of the European Parliament and a member of Greece's ruling Syriza party, reacted angrily to the eurozone's approach in the talks so far.

"What is at play here is an attempt to humiliate Greece and Greeks, or to overthrow the [Alexis] Tsipras government," he said.

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The measures submitted in the latest Greek document include:

  • tax rise on shipping companies
  • unifying VAT rates at standard 23%, including restaurants and catering
  • phasing out solidarity grant for pensioners by 2019
  • €300m ($332m; £216m) defence spending cuts by 2016
  • privatisation of ports and sell-off of remaining shares in telecoms giant OTE
  • scrapping 30% tax break for wealthiest islands
Why did Greece hold a referendum?

Did Greeks really fail to pay 89.5% of taxes?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33497301
:wtf:
 

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so did they accept a deal? S&P futures are up like 30 so something must have happened
Might be the reason :
1h ago14:08

Tsipras: We owe it to the people of Europe to compromise
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Photograph: EbS
Alexis Tsipras has just arrived for tonight’s eurozone summit, and told reporters that an agreement could be within reach.

I am here ready for compromise, the Greek PM says.

We owe that to the people of Europe who want Europe united, and not divided.

We can reach an agreement tonight if all parties want it.





You can watch all the arrivals here.

Updated at 2.10pm BST

http://www.theguardian.com/business...d-no-deal-live#block-55a265fde4b05111b7559bc0
 

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As it happened: Greek debt decision
A summit of all European Union members planned for Sunday has been cancelled as "very difficult" talks over a third bailout deal for Greece continue.

Eurozone finance ministers adjourned the talks last night and they have now resumed.

European Council president Donald Tusk said a meeting of Eurogroup leaders would go ahead at 14:00GMT and "last until we conclude talks on Greece".

Without a deal, it is feared Greece could crash out of the euro.

The BBC's Jonny Dymond in Brussels says that rarely have EU meetings been cancelled at such short notice and with such a terse announcement.

Marathon talks on Saturday had ended without agreement and Eurogroup leader Jeroen Dijsselbloem described negotiations as "very difficult".

"We have had an in-depth discussion of the Greek proposals, the issue of credibility and trust was discussed and also of course financial issues involved," Mr Dijsselbloem told reporters. "It is still very difficult but work is in progress."

Talks resumed at 09:00 GMT.

_76020974_line976.jpg

Analysis: Chris Morris, BBC News, Brussels

Frustrated and fatigued, finance ministers have gathered for a second day to try and resolve the clear divisions within the eurozone over Greece.

France and others are pushing for a deal with Greece, while a group of sceptical countries led by Germany harbour grave reservations.

But there are still influential players pushing for an announcement today that negotiations on a third bailout with Greece can begin.

That should be enough to allow the European Central Bank to intervene once again, and prevent Greek banks going out of business.

The fact that a meeting of all 28 EU leaders has been cancelled suggests that the focus is still on finding a deal within the eurozone, rather than looking at the consequences of a Greek exit.

Robert Peston: Could euro survive a temporary Greek exit?

_76020974_line976.jpg

The ministers have reportedly discussed in detail the option of easing Greece's debt burden as long as Athens enacts legislation immediately to reform taxation, pensions and administration. There will be no write-down of debt.

But the talks remain complex and European Commission Vice President Valdis Dombrovskis said it was "utterly unlikely" a mandate would be achieved in Sunday's meeting to start formal negotiations on the third bailout.

Slovakian Finance Minister Peter Kazimir was similarly downbeat, saying: "It's not possible to reach a deal today. We can agree on certain recommendations for the heads of state. That's all. The breach of trust... it's so big, it's not possible to achieve the deal."

Finnish Finance Minister Alexander Stubb said he was "still hopeful" of a deal but that on a scale of one to 10, Greece and its eurozone partners were "somewhere between three and four" on achieving a deal.

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Media caption"Open expressions of distrust mean a deal is still a long way off" reports BBC correspondent Jonny Dymond
Reports on Saturday suggested that German ministers were drawing up a plan that would allow Greece to exit the eurozone temporarily if this weekend's talks fail - something Athens says it is not aware of.

Dimitrios Papadimoulis, vice-president of the European Parliament and a member of Greece's ruling Syriza party, reacted angrily to the eurozone's approach in the talks so far.

"What is at play here is an attempt to humiliate Greece and Greeks, or to overthrow the [Alexis] Tsipras government," he said.

_76020974_line976.jpg

The measures submitted in the latest Greek document include:

  • tax rise on shipping companies
  • unifying VAT rates at standard 23%, including restaurants and catering
  • phasing out solidarity grant for pensioners by 2019
  • €300m ($332m; £216m) defence spending cuts by 2016
  • privatisation of ports and sell-off of remaining shares in telecoms giant OTE
  • scrapping 30% tax break for wealthiest islands
Why did Greece hold a referendum?

Did Greeks really fail to pay 89.5% of taxes?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33497301
:wtf:


Half those demands aren't even hard and hit rich people....haha. Oh my god, we may have to collect tax
 

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The new Eurogroup terms are much worse than what the Greeks voted against last week :heh:

They basically asking for Greece to hand them over 50 B in Greek assets as collateral :mjlol:

"Give us the keys to your house and if you play nice we'll rent it to you at a nice price"
 
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