GOT S6ep5 spoiler thread. YES SPOILERS.

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Yes, and this is nothing like that. There were 3 different timelines in Dragonball Z.

The current one
Future Trunk's
Cell's

Nothing was effected until Cell & Trunks went back and changed it
facts, i was hoping no one would try to use to DBZ time travel as an example


you should watch Primer tho :ehh:
 

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No shyt assclown. If he just now went into the past then hodor shouldn't have been effected by him the previous 30+ years of his life.
nah the second bran goes into the past he changed how the next 30+ years of Hodor's life went

and THAT is the timeline that we see

Its a show or a movie?
movie

that shyt'll have you :mindblown::dwillhuh: but it's still interesting to see
 

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nah the second bran goes into the past he changed how the next 30+ years of Hodor's life went

and THAT is the timeline that we see
I get that, but that would mean that Bran had already been in the past otherwise current day Hodor wouldn't have been effected already. But i have no idea where this is going or what it does :yeshrug:
 

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No shyt assclown. If he just now went into the past then hodor shouldn't have been effected by him the previous 30+ years of his life.

I'll give you an example. In Looper, the kid was supposed to grow up to become the Rainmaker in the future. That's why Bruce Willis' character went back in time to kill him as a child. No matter what he did the kid became the Rainmaker. Bruce was going to always try to kill the kid, and end up, by accident killing the mom, which causes the kid to grow hateful and force him towards that future. No matter what he did, that was the outcome.

Your question is....how did the kid become the Rainmaker the first time? Before Bruce went back. The only thing that was holding him back from becoming a monster was his mother getting killed, so in the first timeline, she could have died any number of ways. It didn't have to be Bruce that killed her. He was just the one doing it in his timeline. So he killed himself to stop himself from hurting the mom. The other timelines/universes are irrelevant because each timeline/universes is separate.

So let's say Hodor was completely normal in the first timeline. A regular dude. Bran still falls off the castle. He finds some other way to get to Bloodraven. He jumps through time, screws up Hodor's head by accident and creates a new timeline. Now the Bran in that timeline will grow up with Hodor, creating the loop.
 

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This is a mindfukk. I now have a much better understanding of why GRRM hasn't finished his books. I think this time loop he introduced might not make too much sense or be too complicated, and he doesn't want to half ass it and be criticized till his grave. Dan and Dave are trying to simplify this story as much as possible and it's still confusing as fukk :russ:
 
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I get that, but that would mean that Bran had already been in the past otherwise current day Hodor wouldn't have been effected already. But i have no idea where this is going or what it does :yeshrug:
it was Future Bran breh, it's a loop, he's living out the timeline that he created in the future
 

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After watching this episode I have been thinking: could it be that Bran is/created Coldhands? :lupe:


I think YOU ARE RIGHT. I think BRAN SENT BENJEN (COLDHANDS) on that ranging mission. He knew he would need Uncle Benjen in the future after he loses HORDOR. You sir, are very smart.

Just to be clear. I don't think Bran is COLDHANDS. But, I think he created Coldhands (who is Uncle Benjen). I think Bran is controlling Coldhands.

Holy shyt. In the books Coldhands says to Bran "I'm your monster Brandon Stark" :ohhh::lupe:
 

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I'll give you an example. In Looper, the kid was supposed to grow up to become the Rainmaker in the future. That's why Bruce Willis' character went back in time to kill him as a child. No matter what he did the kid became the Rainmaker. Bruce was going to always try to kill the kid, and end up, by accident killing the mom, which causes the kid to grow hateful and force him towards that future. No matter what he did, that was the outcome.

Your question is....how did the kid become the Rainmaker the first time? Before Bruce went back. The only thing that was holding him back from becoming a monster was his mother getting killed, so in the first timeline, she could have died any number of ways. It didn't have to be Bruce that killed her. He was just the one doing it in his timeline. So he killed himself to stop himself from hurting the mom. The other timelines/universes are irrelevant because each timeline/universes is separate.

So let's say Hodor was completely normal in the first timeline. A regular dude. Bran still falls off the castle. He finds some other way to get to Bloodraven. He jumps through time, screws up Hodor's head by accident. Now the Bran in that timeline will grow up with Hodor, creating the loop.
That's destiny/prophecy ish not time travel.

shyt sound piff tho :ehh:
 

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same here i thought the dire wolfs were going to be something special the way they introduced them into the story but at this point they seem like useless mutts except for ghost but i guess he was special from the rest from the start.
the Direwolves are special in the books but the show doesn't give a fukk about any of em except Ghost

it's been hard watching all them die :mjcry:
 

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This is a mindfukk. I know have a much better understanding of why GRRM hasn't finished his boks. I think this time loop he introduced might not make too much sense or be too complicated, and he doesn't want to half ass it and be criticized till his grave. Dan and Dave are trying to simply this story as much as possible and it's still confusing as fukk :russ:

Yeah! This definitely changes the landscape of GOT a significant bit! The real question is once Bran fully matures with his powers, just how much craziness will happen. I can't wait for it!:wow:
 
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