Got Loyalty Got Royalty Inside Our DNA. Official Miami Heat 2017-18 Season Thread #DoItForTheCulture

[Draje]

Focused on him because seems like a good portion of the fan base is going down the same path with him as they did Beasley. If he doesn't get enough minutes to their satisfaction they got their panties in a bunch.

Name me one player who gets more mentions and make hest fans wanna behead Spoelstra if he gets less than 24 mins of PT

This happens with our talented players, all the time. We did the same thing with Whiteside when Spo was keeping him on the bench and not playing him before he got maxed.

Hold up let's get to chopping this narrative you pushing. For me it's not stardom or bust, it's just we made an investment so give him the opportunity. Just imagine if McGruder was healthy, Winslow would be averaging 10-15 minutes right now. Guys like Okaro White should be in a suit, not playing 24 minutes. Winslow, Bam, Rich, their development should be prioritized equally

Honestly, if McGruder was playing then I think Winslow would actually play as PG more. I feel like he'd play great off Winslow.

TJ and Ellington can't guard SF in crunch times, they too small. McGruder can guard 1-3 and he's a much lower risk defender than J-Rich.

Winslow - Rich - McGruder - JJ - Olynyk.

Winslow - McGruder - JJ would destroy a lot of bench lineups.

 

[Draje]

True but at some point it becomes do we wanna win now or do we wanna develop a kid with great potential at the expenses of the teams immediate success?

I mean I'm assuming Spo knows what he's doing, here. I think he wants to win games. Recall Winslow was out during the teams run last year.

Well, let's ask the question:

Why would he not play Winslow whom we know he wanted in the draft?
Do all these other players he's playing over Winslow have pics of him molesting kids or fukking g sheep?
Has Winslow sent dikk pics to his girl?

I assume coaches make decisions based on what they see in games and in practice.

That's what you sold me on 2 years ago, tho. I believe your words were 'book it'.

Not always. Whiteside was ungodly talented but Spo had to set the ground rules while bringing him along slowly.

Winslow has to get acclimated to the play of the team. He's been gone for a year and if you've ever hooped, you know a lot of running plays is getting acclimated to each players rhythm. Winslow is getting by on NATURAL talent and IQ because he missed a year

 

[CouldBeWorse]

Never forget



I rest my case. I dont even know why you just focusing on Winslow dawg, I have no idea why he's the most polarizing player on this team to Heat fans given the type of contracts we have on this roster.

dummies need to pull up kawhi or jimmy butler's third season stats(winslow still basically a sophmore). Some heat fans would have said to trade them . I swear Justise has to put up 25 and 10 to get any type of respect. He's getting limited minutes, no plays ran for him and doesn't even get to handle but still making an impact.



Meanwhile J Rich is three years older than Justise and don't even look Chalmers good but doesn't get half the criticism Winslow gets and he already got paid

 

[CouldBeWorse]

McRoberts was a huge addition, breh. Homie averaged 4.3 assist per game... and he's a PF

@Intruder v3.0

BREH WHAT IS THIS

 

[Draje]

dummies need to pull up kawhi or jimmy butler's third season stats(winslow still basically a sophmore). Some heat fans would have said to trade them . I swear Justise has to put up 25 and 10 to get any type of respect. He's getting limited minutes, no plays ran for him and doesn't even get to handle but still making an impact.



Meanwhile J Rich is three years older than Justise and don't even look Chalmers good but doesn't get half the criticism Winslow gets and he already got paid

We all noticed it in his first year and Spo did too. Winslow is a winning player and makes impact plays when it matters. He did it in the playoffs and he's always gonna be worth more than his stats ala Draymond.

Justise is the kinda player that can become ELITE even in 5-6 years in the league because of what he does well now. High basketball IQ is so underrated when judging players.

Hell, high IQ basketball players can have star impacts in the right roles (Rodman, Draymond, Wallace, Iggy, etc) well into their later years.

If Winslow's absolute floor is a versatile lockdown defender thet can grab boards that can create plays for others but not be trusted to score, that can STILL be a valuable piece.

shyt, Winslow is also going to be an off-ball threat due to his greats cuts and ability to sneak out of his opponent's vision plus he's learning to attack mismatches better. He posts up smaller guards if they try to play off him or tries to attack bigger players as they back up to get penetration because he's actually pretty damn fast with the ball in his hand.

 

[Freddie.Cane]

We all noticed it in his first year and Spo did too. Winslow is a winning player and makes impact plays when it matters. He did it in the playoffs and he's always gonna be worth more than his stats ala Draymond.

Justise is the kinda player that can become ELITE even in 5-6 years in the league because of what he does well now. High basketball IQ is so underrated when judging players.

Hell, high IQ basketball players can have star impacts in the right roles (Rodman, Draymond, Wallace, Iggy, etc) well into their later years.

If Winslow's absolute floor is a versatile lockdown defender thet can grab boards that can create plays for others but not be trusted to score, that can STILL be a valuable piece.

shyt, Winslow is also going to be an off-ball threat due to his greats cuts and ability to sneak out of his opponent's vision plus he's learning to attack mismatches better. He posts up smaller guards if they try to play off him or tries to attack bigger players as they back up to get penetration because he's actually pretty damn fast with the ball in his hand.

@Alexander The Great been calling him Winslow baby draymond. But draje I agree with everything u said breh

 

[Draje]

Other notes, Bam looks REALLY good at times. He's not a starter level center yet but he's damn good as a backup and he'll be good sooner rather than later.

Aggressive Dion is the best Dion. Yeah, he has turnovers but his ability to put constant stress on defenses by constantly attacking is great. He's also learning how to survey the floor and make passes off of vision, not just instinct,

Whiteside is invaluable. His presence alone makes bigs less likely to heavily contest our driving guards, his rebounding alone is a godsend, and he adds that extra level of intimidation/toughness on both sides of the ball that can't be understated.

Winslow is . That momentum changing floater when the Bulls were on a run. That ability to be a mismatch nightmare on full display

TJ gets buckets and he's erratic. I think he should be our first trade piece though.

J-Rich

 

[intruder]

Never forg

@Intruder v3.0

BREH WHAT IS THIS

let's not act like a lot of us didn't have high hopes for mcroberts when he first signed. It wasn't until Bron said peace out that we realized the move wasn't all that great. Before that most of us in here we're talking about how hed help space out the floor and play pick and roles well when Bosh was resting.

It's easy to say it was a bad decision AFTER the fact.

 

[Freddie.Cane]

let's not act like a lot of us didn't have high hopes for mcroberts when he first signed. It wasn't until Bron said peace out that we realized the move wasn't all that great. Before that most of us in here we're talking about how hed help space out the floor and play pick and roles well when Bosh was resting.

It's easy to say it was a bad decision AFTER the fact.

 

[CouldBeWorse]

let's not act like a lot of us didn't have high hopes for mcroberts when he first signed.

 

[intruder]

Breh do we need to bring up the season and offseason threads? Many of us had high hopes for his shooting touch and passing skills as big to complement Bosh. People been wrong about players before. FACT: Many of the cats in this thread right now would still have a hard on for Michael Beasley if he'd been on the roster

 

[LeoTheGreat]

Justise basically a mini Draymond lite for us let the young gawd cook
...and he's only going to improve

 

[HiphopRelated]

I think only the assistant coaches can give us that information unless you wanna go back and watch the game from the other night.

Personally, the lineup I wanna see with Winslow in it is Winslow, WhiteSide, Olynynk, Dragic and a shooter on the wing.

This would make Winslow and Dragic the only ball handlers with Whiteside to dump it in to and shooters (Olynynk, Dragic and the other shooter) to kick it out to.

Just tank this year and experiment and let's see if he's that #GOT prince that was promised/star that y'all think he can be. Put up or shut up/ sink or swim time so we know what we got before we give him a colossal raise based on potential alone

Doesn't make sense to tank after paying everybody

Last year was the tank year.

We have to at least make the playoffs.

I still believe Bam is key as far as realistic team building...we only have 2 contracts that can get us anything valuable in Whiteside and Dragic.

Bam developing quickly could put White on the block. Basically a Myles Turner / Hibbert situation

 

[intruder]

Doesn't make sense to tank after paying everybody

Last year was the tank year.

We have to at least make the playoffs.

I still believe Bam is key as far as realistic team building...we only have 2 contracts that can get us anything valuable in Whiteside and Dragic.

Bam developing quickly could put White on the block. Basically a Myles Turner / Hibbert situation

I think Bam is 2 years away from being in that discussion (relplacing WhiteSide). I have yet to see that midrange jumper the coaching staff raved about from his pre-dradt workouts but for now i love how he's always active around he basket. And to be honest he hasnt had a whole lot of opportunities to showcase the jumper.

Tho i already see the two weaknesses the draft scouting report mentioned about him that he needs to improve

• Struggles to score against size
• Doesnt defend the basket

But with his natural talent im sure he can learn quickly practicing against Whiteside and trained by Juwan Howard

 

[BushidoBrown]